Random Gaming Talk Thread

[Nintex]

30 minutes in, highlight of the show so far Sydnee Goodmans outfit 

[Svejk]

That sci-fi Exodus game sounds like Mass potential.  Lead writer of KOTOR and ME1 & 2 is on it, along with other industry vets. The Time Dilation sounds flippin bonkers.  Gonna keep an sharp eye on this one.

[Svejk]

Sega just getting started... 

“We really want to show edginess and a rebellious mind-set,” said Utsumi, recalling Sega’s cultural impact as the “alternative” game console.

“The concept of games like ‘Jet Set Radio’ is advanced. The original creators are involved again, and its time is now,” he said. “It’s a good time where people can appreciate all kinds of concepts.”

Utsumi credited three ongoing Sega franchises for holding up the company in recent years: Sonic the Hedgehog, which has now released two blockbuster Hollywood films; Yakuza, the crime drama that’s grown a large U.S. following; and Persona, the role-playing series about mystery-solving teens.

“We’ve been investing into these three titles the last three years, making these pillars grow, and they grew very well,” he said.

“We are evaluating right now. Virtua Fighter doesn’t use so many tricks, special moves like in Street Fighter, it’s very realistic,” Utsumi said. “How can we make it more dramatic? It’s something we’re working on.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/video-games/2023/12/08/sega-reboots-crazy-taxi-jet-set-radio/

[Nintex]

Watched the entire show. Fun show overall better than last year.

Some random things I noticed.
- That was a good joke about Call of Duty

- Hellblade II looked absolutely stunning, if that was really running on Series X

- The uwuuuu girl that dropped Bayonetta 3 half way now thinks she can sign a publisher with a 30 sec CG trailer, I appreciate the grift

- Nintendo Japan (Aonuma / Fujibayashi) and America (Doug Bowser) were sitting seperately, while all other publishers/developers were sitting together

- Less Korean/Chinese vaporware this time around

- Kojima now juggling two games (Death Stranding 2, OD) interesting to see how that plays out

- Bad business decisions on full display, not-Mass Effect and not-Starcraft announced by their original creators instead of the actual sequels they could've been

- Not a single new racing/sports game announced

- Probably the biggest gig Poets of the Fall have ever done, surprisingly enough actually live

- Nothing from Nintendo in terms of trailers, not even a B-roll

- Strangely enough they made new key artwork for The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom 

- French indie dev woman talks about diversity, climate blah blah, was clearly surprised when Sony Corpo Man came to pick up the GAMES FOR IMPACT award 

- Sam Lake was truely happy with all the awards and doing his silly Alan Wake dance

- Larian folks apart from the guy at the end were weird, I couldn't tell what they were talking about

- Lots of stuff I expected missing, maybe picked up by Nintendo, MS or Sony for future showcases or very short announcement to release windows next year?

- Strange new type of AAAA+ indie games, Who is funding stuff like Last Sentinel?

[Nintex]

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[Svejk]

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I'm confused. Didn't E3 die like 4 years ago?

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They were supposedly going to have E3 next year, but it got old yellered.

[Nintex]

I'm confused. Didn't E3 die like 4 years ago?

They sort of had an E3 business area thing on the side still and a collab with IGN or something.
Plus Nintendo had their traditional big direct around E3 time along with the PlayStation Showcase and Xbox Games Showcase.

It seems like it is now just fully replaced with Summer Games Fest, which is more or less the same thing just more spread out.
My preference was E3, just 3 days to watch all the big shows/conferences and everything instead of all these seperate streams and events.

[chronovore]

So with GTAVI being officially revealed next month, I can't help but feel a smidge of hype too.  Having not touched a GTA since Vice City, this one is catching my interest some due to the tech they're supposedly touting in this game (AI, water physics, being able to enter practically every building, etc.), AND being severely burned by Schmaits Row, I was considering giving either GTA 4 or 5 a whirl.  Of course, the last thing I need is yet, another open world game, but if the price is right, I may give one of the two a try. 

So that being said, which one is the better GTA? 4 or 5?

Or save me some time by comparing those two to RDR2... if you think RDR2 is better than both, that will help make the decision easier. lol

I’ve played every GTA since III to 100% completion.

IV was a SLOG, with too much reliance on “realism” both in back alley gun shops (no Ammunation) and Euphoria ragdolling that takes player control away. Most of the side activities I loved in the PS2 era games are gone, possibly in favor of the more serious story. Ballad of Gay Tony DLC somewhat redeems the Liberty City sequence.

GTA V is great, I’ve finished it 3x, once on each generation of consoles it graced. There is a bunch to do, with Taxi missions, airplane drug running, and bounties on bail jumpers, and repeatable races. Avoid GTA Online - its UIis overly complex, content hard to anccess without a guide, and the toxic and hostile lobbies make me regret having an internet connection.

[Polident Hive]

Retroid 4 got announced and it’s impressive how far down the cost for these emulation handhelds have gotten. Both the $150 and $200 units use chips from more expensive devices (Odin Lite and Aya something). tl dr both can handle PS2 and GameCube. The $200 apparently should do the entire libraries upscaled to the 720p screen.

[Himu]

So with GTAVI being officially revealed next month, I can't help but feel a smidge of hype too.  Having not touched a GTA since Vice City, this one is catching my interest some due to the tech they're supposedly touting in this game (AI, water physics, being able to enter practically every building, etc.), AND being severely burned by Schmaits Row, I was considering giving either GTA 4 or 5 a whirl.  Of course, the last thing I need is yet, another open world game, but if the price is right, I may give one of the two a try. 

So that being said, which one is the better GTA? 4 or 5?

Or save me some time by comparing those two to RDR2... if you think RDR2 is better than both, that will help make the decision easier. lol

I’ve played every GTA since III to 100% completion.

IV was a SLOG, with too much reliance on “realism” both in back alley gun shops (no Ammunation) and Euphoria ragdolling that takes player control away. Most of the side activities I loved in the PS2 era games are gone, possibly in favor of the more serious story. Ballad of Gay Tony DLC somewhat redeems the Liberty City sequence.

GTA V is great, I’ve finished it 3x, once on each generation of consoles it graced. There is a bunch to do, with Taxi missions, airplane drug running, and bounties on bail jumpers, and repeatable races. Avoid GTA Online - its UIis overly complex, content hard to anccess without a guide, and the toxic and hostile lobbies make me regret having an internet connection.

I'd like to add that GTAIV TLAD is also fantastic and has one of the best all time GTA stories.

Here's the thing about GTAIV. The premise and idea is fantastic. I actually love the idea of a realistic NYC backdrop. When I boot up GTAIV I love exploring...until there's no reward. They removed the package system which rewards the player for exploring and getting 10 of every new package with a weapon or item at hideout. There's no taxi missions. Well, there are, but they're for Roman's cab business and they're finite. So once you finish the missions you can't ever do them again. There's a complete lack of content. The result is something that feels like a beta. RDR1 came out after GTAIV and took the premise of IV and made it all the way better: realistic, grounded, but with lots to do and see with scripted stranger events and quests. This was enhanced even more in GTAV.

Chrono and I are both GTA heads and adore the franchise and even if we both liked some aspects of IV, the complete package is a massive flawed thing. This isn't to say GTAIV isn't fun. The online component, when it was available, was absolutely bonkers fun. I love the realistic driving in the game. I love the simulation/realistic feel, but that game just doesn't have the content going for it for a GTA game. It has less content than even III.

Playing RDR2, if VI takes the grounded realism of RDR2's simulation open world and gives it a GTA sheen, but learns from GTAIV's mistakes and fills the game with content, GTAVI could be an all timer. That's the biggest grudge I have with IV: its complete waste of potential.

My suggestion would be to play both GTAV and RDR2. Since GTAVI comes out in 2025, you've got plenty of time. If you're going to play a GTA in modern times it has to be V but I think RDR2 will influence GTAVI far more than GTAV. Start with RDR2.

[Nintex]

Price drop for the Series X right after Black Friday. 

Sales must be abysmal.

https://twitter.com/tomwarren/status/1734990473398251969

[MMaRsu]

Price drop for the Series X right after Black Friday. 

Sales must be abysmal.

https://twitter.com/tomwarren/status/1734990473398251969

Not in Europe tho so..

[Svejk]

ND's The Last of Us Multiplayer game has been cancelled.. Best thing I've heard come out of that studio in almost a decade.

[Nintex]

https://www.naughtydog.com/blog/an_update_on_the_last_of_us_online

Sounds like they're handling too many things at once. These mid gen shifts are never a good sign.
I expected them to announce Last of Us III at the VGAs to soften this blow but the fact that they aren't ready to show anything yet doesn't bode well.

[Polident Hive]

Saw the Steam Deck OLED and Lenovo Go in a store yesterday. tbh in person the Deck OLED was better than I expected. Sticks feel more comfortable and the slightly larger screen makes the device look proportional. Legion Go seems great except for the dpad.

These past couple months I’ve mostly just been using my deck for games. I only play a couple modern games a year and I have my desktop and laptop for those. But a handheld that can play almost anything serviceably from 2020 and earlier is amazing.

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Bork found your new portable.

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[MMaRsu]

Rest in peace James Maccaffrey

Max Payne RIP

[Svejk]

Rest in peace James Maccaffrey

Max Payne RIP

Pretty sad... Too young. 
My son was just recently asking about Max Payne.  I was surprised that they have a pseudo-upscaled version of the PS2 version on PS4/5 for $15.  May have to pick it up.

Come to think of it, I don't know if I ever played the 2nd one.  I know I didn't play the 3rd.  Aren't they Remaking all 3?  Well, were planning on it?

[MMaRsu]

They were planning to remake the first and second game.. I doubt it'll still happen.

Which I'm fine with

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[Svejk]

Dreams of Saturn is a Shenmue Xmas fan game from George Kitchen. The game features around 10-15 hours worth of content in the form of a short Shenmue story, taking place before and after the events of the original Shenmue, along with a wide variety of mini-games, achievements and collectables. The game is a standalone client and is NOT a mod for the original Shenmue.

https://www.shenmuedojo.com/forum/index.php?threads/a-shenmue-story-new-shenmue-journey-from-george-kitchen.5470/

 

[Svejk]

Dang...  The Insomniac/Soyny leak is a biggun.     I hate it for the devs, but fuck Didney and all their Marvel schlock. 

From the GAAS looking Spider-verse, to Venom, to Wolverine footage....

[MMaRsu]

Peak gaming 'journalism'

[Nintex]

Dang...  The Insomniac/Soyny leak is a biggun.     I hate it for the devs, but fuck Didney and all their Marvel schlock. 

From the GAAS looking Spider-verse, to Venom, to Wolverine footage....
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The leak is quite dissapointing. Wolverine looks like a Spider-Man mod, Spider-Man 3 and Venom are obviously Spider-Man asset flips and that brings us to X-Men another Spider-Man mod.

Their strategy is literally the Simpsons disco sales meme while the Marvel cinematic unvierse it hinges on is already falling off a cliff.

Also I'm reading they're planning to sell Spider-Man 3 in 3 parts for $50 a piece. 

They were planning to remake the first and second game.. I doubt it'll still happen.

Which I'm fine with

The Max Payne remakes are still on but Sam Lake was kinda vague about reprising the role of Max Payne, which is weird considering he's literally Max Payne/Alex Casey in Alan Wake 2.
But with this news it makes sense as to why he isn't sure about it.

Such a shame we lost such an iconic voice.

[Svejk]

Dang...  The Insomniac/Soyny leak is a biggun.     I hate it for the devs, but fuck Didney and all their Marvel schlock. 

From the GAAS looking Spider-verse, to Venom, to Wolverine footage....
(Image removed from quote.)

The leak is quite dissapointing. Wolverine looks like a Spider-Man mod, Spider-Man 3 and Venom are obviously Spider-Man asset flips and that brings us to X-Men another Spider-Man mod.

Their strategy is literally the Simpsons disco sales meme while the Marvel cinematic unvierse it hinges on is already falling off a cliff.

Also I'm reading they're planning to sell Spider-Man 3 in 3 parts for $50 a piece. 

Maybe these are the "Dated Pillars" they spoke of in the leak.  They are to me.
I honestly hope Sony takes it in the rear and regroups somehow.  They showed little signs of greatness again with the likes of Astrobot, but they let the western market taint the shit out of their brand. 

[Svejk]

Just when I was wanting more Portal...


Guess I'll need to get the PC version of P2.

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[Nintex]

Motorfest already 50% off

https://twitter.com/TheCrewGame/status/1737880619651133895

At this point you have to be crazy to buy games like these at launch

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[Nintex]

Has anyone played this?

https://twitter.com/Genki_JPN/status/1739489780130595052

Chrono Trigger creators Yuji Horii, Hironobu Sakaguchi and Kazuhiko Torishima praised Sea of Stars as a beautiful game they said looks just like Chrono Trigger and said the developers really did a great job!

After talking about the possibility of Chrono Trigger 2 which they said was hard to see themselves doing, Sakaguchi brought up
@seaofstarsgame
 and showed the other two the trailer for the game.

- Horii said "Wow, they did a great job, it looks just like Chrono Trigger... it's beatuful... that's great!"
- Torishima said it was nostalgic
- Sakaguchi said "Look, its the same!... When I saw it I though they really did their best and did a great job"

[Himu]

Just when I was wanting more Portal...


Guess I'll need to get the PC version of P2.

what exactly is this? Remake of 1 and 2?

[Nintex]

Looks like a fan expansion that picks up after 2.

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"She" being dead, probably refers to Glados

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[demi]

Has anyone played this?

https://twitter.com/Genki_JPN/status/1739489780130595052

Chrono Trigger creators Yuji Horii, Hironobu Sakaguchi and Kazuhiko Torishima praised Sea of Stars as a beautiful game they said looks just like Chrono Trigger and said the developers really did a great job!

After talking about the possibility of Chrono Trigger 2 which they said was hard to see themselves doing, Sakaguchi brought up
@seaofstarsgame
 and showed the other two the trailer for the game.

- Horii said "Wow, they did a great job, it looks just like Chrono Trigger... it's beatuful... that's great!"
- Torishima said it was nostalgic
- Sakaguchi said "Look, its the same!... When I saw it I though they really did their best and did a great job"

Yeah, they're dumb. It looks nothing like Chrono Trigger and plays nothing like Chrono Trigger

[Svejk]

Just when I was wanting more Portal...


Guess I'll need to get the PC version of P2.

what exactly is this? Remake of 1 and 2?

Yeah, it's a fan expansion, but I've been reading good things about it.

[Nintex]

In Germany and France the heavily discounted Xbox Series X has almost reached price parity with Nintendo Switch. 

Xbox Series X: 360,-
Switch OLED: 310,-

In the Netherlands

Xbox Series X: 418,-
Switch OLED: 349,-

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[Himu]

Man I want to make a game.

[Svejk]

Man I want to make a game.

Do it.  That's one of my new year's resolutions.  Tired talking about a game (to my family) that's been swimming around in my head for almost 20 years now.  If I don't try and get this out finally, or at least try, what's the point of dreams?   

Enough thinking, time to start doing. 

That being said, I think at this point I'm set on Godot for the engine.  There was a thread somewhere in the super deep, but I hardly ever go there to look for it. 

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[Himu]

Man I want to make a game.

Do it.  That's one of my new year's resolutions.  Tired talking about a game (to my family) that's been swimming around in my head for almost 20 years now.  If I don't try and get this out finally, or at least try, what's the point of dreams?   

Enough thinking, time to start doing. 

That being said, I think at this point I'm set on Godot for the engine.  There was a thread somewhere in the super deep, but I hardly ever go there to look for it. 

Mine is simple and a 2d game that takes place in a 3d space. I heard to get Scratch to learn code and how to game program.

Bork would love my game. It has titties and ass.

[Svejk]

Man I want to make a game.

Do it.  That's one of my new year's resolutions.  Tired talking about a game (to my family) that's been swimming around in my head for almost 20 years now.  If I don't try and get this out finally, or at least try, what's the point of dreams?   

Enough thinking, time to start doing. 

That being said, I think at this point I'm set on Godot for the engine.  There was a thread somewhere in the super deep, but I hardly ever go there to look for it. 

Mine is simple and a 2d game that takes place in a 3d space. I heard to get Scratch to learn code and how to game program.

Bork would love my game. It has titties and ass.

Get chatgpt to code for you.  Mine is a 2D platformer akin to Gunstar Heroes and Strider/Valis.

[Nintex]

Serkan Toto is the real deal.
https://twitter.com/VGC_News/status/1742573880462430597

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[Himu]

Man I want to make a game.

Do it.  That's one of my new year's resolutions.  Tired talking about a game (to my family) that's been swimming around in my head for almost 20 years now.  If I don't try and get this out finally, or at least try, what's the point of dreams?   

Enough thinking, time to start doing. 

That being said, I think at this point I'm set on Godot for the engine.  There was a thread somewhere in the super deep, but I hardly ever go there to look for it. 

Mine is simple and a 2d game that takes place in a 3d space. I heard to get Scratch to learn code and how to game program.

Bork would love my game. It has titties and ass.

Get chatgpt to code for you.  Mine is a 2D platformer akin to Gunstar Heroes and Strider/Valis.

Nah, using Ai to make art. Yuck. Good luck on your game. Sounds cool

[Himu]

My game is inspired by Nights but I want to jazz it up with LSD and a bit of Sexy Parodius.

[Svejk]

Man I want to make a game.

Do it.  That's one of my new year's resolutions.  Tired talking about a game (to my family) that's been swimming around in my head for almost 20 years now.  If I don't try and get this out finally, or at least try, what's the point of dreams?   

Enough thinking, time to start doing. 

That being said, I think at this point I'm set on Godot for the engine.  There was a thread somewhere in the super deep, but I hardly ever go there to look for it. 

Mine is simple and a 2d game that takes place in a 3d space. I heard to get Scratch to learn code and how to game program.

Bork would love my game. It has titties and ass.

Get chatgpt to code for you.  Mine is a 2D platformer akin to Gunstar Heroes and Strider/Valis.

Nah, using Ai to make art. Yuck. Good luck on your game. Sounds cool

Thanks!  And yeah, I agree.  I'm doing the art and animation myself.  Just suggesting it for C# scripting.

[bork]

Man I want to make a game.

Do it.  That's one of my new year's resolutions.  Tired talking about a game (to my family) that's been swimming around in my head for almost 20 years now.  If I don't try and get this out finally, or at least try, what's the point of dreams?   

Enough thinking, time to start doing. 

That being said, I think at this point I'm set on Godot for the engine.  There was a thread somewhere in the super deep, but I hardly ever go there to look for it. 

Mine is simple and a 2d game that takes place in a 3d space. I heard to get Scratch to learn code and how to game program.

Bork would love my game. It has titties and ass.

[Nintex]

Looks like the console war is over.

Xbox is going third party starting with former exclusive Xbox games releasing on Switch and PS5 and day 1 multiplatform releases later.

[Himu]

Looks like the console war is over.

Xbox is going third party starting with former exclusive Xbox games releasing on Switch and PS5 and day 1 multiplatform releases later.

Someone please tell me what the fuck Nintex is talking about.

[Nintex]

Sea of Thieves is coming to PS5 (Switch rumored too but I don't see how it runs on there  )
HiFi Rush is coming to PS5 (not coming to Switch anymore? I think they'll just hold this one back until Switch 2)

Xbox is dead in the water in Europe and Japan. Trailing in the US too. They dropped GamePass subscriber growth as the main KPI(the churn is crazy btw) and are now back to good old revenue.

Digital Foundry bought a used Xbox Series S in perfect condition for 65 pounds (~$80). Microsoft won't drop Xbox right away but will simply start to release games on more platforms.

What else can they do, they have all these studios working on games with 4 - 8 year development cycles if not longer after multiple reboots.
They have studios working on Disney (Indiana Jones/Star Wars/Marvel) content and some of their games already sell better on competing platforms (Minecraft) plus they're legally forced to sell Call of Duty on all platforms anyway (including Nintendo platforms).

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[bork]

They copied the Ally design hard- right down to the button placement!

[Polident Hive]

What notable laptop maker is left? Alienware/Dell and Razer? Clevo?

Good chance asus drops a redesigned Ally this year, too.