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« Reply #1980 on: August 25, 2013, 04:23:33 PM »
I get the sodomy badge, but a cannibalism badge? Wha?

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« Reply #1982 on: August 25, 2013, 07:01:45 PM »
52%, like a baws.  :tophat
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« Reply #1983 on: August 25, 2013, 07:02:31 PM »
Waitresses relying on govt handouts, I see  :patel
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« Reply #1984 on: August 26, 2013, 12:06:52 AM »
Black excellence!

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« Reply #1985 on: August 26, 2013, 01:26:18 AM »

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« Reply #1986 on: August 26, 2013, 02:31:26 AM »
I wanna give Lizz Winstead a gold star for resisting the urge to slug that guy, you can tell she was fighting it hard.

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« Reply #1987 on: August 26, 2013, 12:38:35 PM »


lol, does anyone under the age of 25 even know who Rush Limbaugh is? I barely remember his TV show. I think the only people scared of Rush are the people that are trying to pin down that angry white senior citizen vote.
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« Reply #1988 on: August 26, 2013, 04:33:06 PM »
The only purpose Rush serves is to be held up as a posterchild for modern conservative thinking, most often by Democrats.
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« Reply #1989 on: August 26, 2013, 07:08:23 PM »
the state gop here smuggled a rush bust into the capitol offices overnight, installed it, and put a security camera focused solely on it so no one can destroy it :fbm
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« Reply #1990 on: August 26, 2013, 07:18:10 PM »
the state gop here smuggled a rush bust into the capitol offices overnight, installed it, and put a security camera focused solely on it so no one can destroy it :fbm

I hope someone destroys it, then turns to the camera and flips the bird, then knocks over a Robert E. Lee statue on the way out.
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« Reply #1992 on: August 26, 2013, 07:36:32 PM »
the state gop here smuggled a rush bust into the capitol offices overnight, installed it, and put a security camera focused solely on it so no one can destroy it :fbm

I hope someone destroys it, then turns to the camera and flips the bird, then knocks over a Robert E. Lee statue on the way out.

challenge accepted  :mynicca
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« Reply #1993 on: August 26, 2013, 07:53:17 PM »
So, this fucktard is still alive, sadly

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/ex-us-attorney-calls-james-okeefe-nasty-little?ref=fpb

I watched the first ~4 minutes and then turned it off. As far as I'm concerned, it was great video.  :obama
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« Reply #1994 on: August 27, 2013, 12:12:00 AM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBgMS3aMW2A
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Single mothers are the poster children for the welfare state because THEY'RE ALREADY SUPPLYING LARGE AMOUNTS OF UNPAID LABOR.  A young child needs supervision by an engaged adult literally every moment they're awake.  That's the equivalent of at least two full time jobs, doing something that we, as a society, say is very important, but are queasy about supporting with actual resources.

And I don't want to hear a dude talking about how easy opportunities are for a single parent unless he's been one.  I don't talk about how easy dental school is because I got braces when I was 13.  smh

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« Reply #1995 on: August 27, 2013, 10:18:23 AM »
http://nation.foxnews.com/2013/08/26/oprahs-butler-ticket-sales-plummet

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The movie "Lee Daniels' The Butler" saw its weekend box office receipts plummet by nearly a third, from $24.6 million in its opening week to $17 million last week, after a storm of protests from Republican and veterans groups.

Plummeted by 33%!!!! :lol
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« Reply #1996 on: August 27, 2013, 10:38:25 AM »
The whole hour I was at the gym today Fox News was running a panel discussing how inaccurate the movie is. 

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« Reply #1997 on: August 27, 2013, 10:53:14 AM »
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The Michigan Senate will vote today on expanding Medicaid under Obamacare.

There are three proposals before the Senate, according to the Detroit Free Press:

    Straight-up eligibility expansion to 138 percent of the federal poverty level. That would cover an estimated 400,000 Michiganders.
    An alternative proposal for the state to cover the entire cost of the expansion. Under the federal law, the federal government is supposed pick up almost all of the expansion tab.
    An alternative proposal for low-income residents to purchase high-deductible insurance plans subsidized by the state.

According to the Washington Post, the first proposal is the only one likely to garner enough votes for passage. Up to eight Republicans would need to cross the aisle and vote alongside the united Democratic caucus to get the bill through the 38-member chamber.

The House has already passed an expansion bill, and Gov. Rick Snyder has said he supports expansion.

The Senate session begins at 12 p.m.
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/michigan-senate-to-vote-today-on-medicaid-expansion

Good to see republicans realizing even if they don't like the idea, ultimately it will save the state money.
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« Reply #1998 on: August 27, 2013, 11:50:15 AM »
Too bad Republicans didn't boycott Pacific Rim, causing it to plummet by 33%. :(
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« Reply #1999 on: August 27, 2013, 09:03:09 PM »
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The Michigan Senate voted Tuesday to expand Medicaid under the Affordable Care Act, extending health coverage to more than 400,000 low-income residents, but not without a little legislative drama first.

The GOP-controlled chamber approved the bill by a 20-18 vote at about 8 p.m. Tuesday after being in session for more than eight hours, much of it spent in caucus debating how to get the expansion passed. Eight Republicans finally joined 12 Democrats to pass the bill.

The House, which had already passed an expansion bill, will soon take a concurring vote, and Gov. Rick Snyder’s office confirmed to TPM that the governor would sign the legislation when it reaches his desk.

Before the bill ultimately passed, the legislation was stuck in parliamentarian limbo for more than two hours.

The bill needed 20 votes out of the 38-member Senate to pass. On its first vote at about 5:30 p.m., it received 19 yea votes and 18 nay votes in a floor vote, but Republican Sen. Patrick Colbeck, who is vehemently opposed to expansion, abstained from voting. If he had cast a nay vote, leaving a 19-19 tie, then Republican Lt. Gov. Brian Calley could have cast the tiebreaking vote to pass the bill, as Calley has pledged to do.

But because Colbeck didn’t vote, the bill failed when it didn’t reach the 20-vote threshold. The Senate then immediately voted 21-17 to reconsider the vote and went into recess so the party caucuses could meet. It took more than two hours before the Senate reconvened and finally passed the bill.

Sen. Tom Casperson, a Republican, switched his vote after securing an amendment that reformed hospital payments for uncompensated care for the uninsured. According to tweets from local reporters, Casperson had been expected to vote for the expansion initially, but unexpectedly voted nay on the first floor vote. His yay on the second floor vote made Calley’s tiebreaking vote unnecessary.
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/08/michigan-approves-obamacares-medicaid-expansion.php?ref=fpa

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« Reply #2000 on: August 28, 2013, 12:28:43 PM »
any reason we're not discussing syria?

because this is fucking shitty.
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« Reply #2001 on: August 28, 2013, 12:29:24 PM »
Too depressing
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« Reply #2002 on: August 28, 2013, 12:35:39 PM »
any reason we're not discussing syria?

because this is fucking shitty.

Why worry about talking about it now, we'll have 10 years or so of war and occupation to get around to talking about it
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« Reply #2003 on: August 28, 2013, 12:40:57 PM »
I'll make a thread soon. You know things are fucked up when SEAN HANNITY and TED CRUZ are making the liberal argument against a mindless war while actual liberals bang the war drum.
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« Reply #2004 on: August 28, 2013, 02:32:38 PM »
 :what acting like this's gotta be an all-or-nothing war

it doesnt and it wont, fortunately, although i think missile strikes are also a really shitty idea. however assad is winning and the rebels DO want outside help, so sitting this one out aint gonna help at all.
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« Reply #2005 on: August 28, 2013, 02:34:27 PM »
It would be nice if "the rebels" were all one group and all wanted the same thing and could be counted on to not finance people trying to blow up us 'mericans after they suss out how to divide up Syria when Assad is dead or gone is my main concern.  Plus, they don't even have that much oil in Syria, do they?
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« Reply #2006 on: August 28, 2013, 02:48:35 PM »
And in other feel-good news, teacher that has sex with a 14 year old who commited suicide gets 30 days because it wasn't "rape-rape" and plus she was a total slut anyway.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/teacher-30-days-rape-14-year-old-girl.php?ref=fpb

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In handing down the sentence, Baugh also said Cherice Moralez was “older than her chronological age” and “as much in control of the situation” as the teacher.

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It was horrible enough as it is just given her age, but it wasn’t this forcible beat-up rape.

This was in America, not Syria btw.

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« Reply #2007 on: August 28, 2013, 03:58:32 PM »
remember that time Barack Obama won a Nobel Peace Prize :sabu

Oh, you mean the prize they gave out to Yasser Arafat and Henry Kissinger?
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« Reply #2008 on: August 28, 2013, 04:18:22 PM »
The problem with Syria is that intervention could easily explode into something bigger. This isn't Libya where we waltzed in and did what we wanted for a week.
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« Reply #2009 on: August 28, 2013, 06:11:52 PM »
You know things are fucked up when SEAN HANNITY and TED CRUZ are making the liberal argument against a mindless war

They're saying all that just so that they can disagree with Obama. That's it.
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« Reply #2010 on: August 28, 2013, 06:25:16 PM »
they did the same damn thing with clinton and kosovo
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« Reply #2011 on: August 28, 2013, 06:34:32 PM »
they did the same damn thing with clinton and kosovo

And Obama and Libya.
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« Reply #2012 on: August 28, 2013, 09:24:44 PM »
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“One thing that is very interesting, it seems to me, is that there really hasn’t been any indication from the administration as to what our national interest is with respect to this particular situation,” Donald Rumsfeld said in an interview with Fox News’s Neil Cavuto scheduled to air later Wednesday, as quoted by The Hill.

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"I respectfully request that you, as our country’s commander-in-chief, personally make the case to the American people and Congress for how potential military action will secure American national security interests, preserve America’s credibility, deter the future use of chemical weapons, and, critically, be a part of our broader policy and strategy," John Boehner wrote in the letter to Obama sent Wednesday afternoon. "In addition, it is essential you address on what basis any use of force would be legally justified and how the justification comports with the exclusive authority of Congressional authorization under Article I of the Constitution."

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"Today I told the Administration that I cannot support military action in Syria unless the President presents to Congress his broader strategy in the region that addresses our national security interests and the budget to support it," Jim Inhofe [R-OK] said. "President Obama has decimated our military beginning with his first budget four and a half years ago. He has underfunded overseas contingency operations (OCO) fund, reduced base defense budget, and put into motion sequestration. Our military has no money left."

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« Reply #2013 on: August 28, 2013, 09:54:25 PM »
Obama's answer really should be a live speech where he explains that he's doing it because if he lets motherfuckers use chemical weapons then others will get the idea that America won't do shit if they start gassing people and all hell breaks loose. Not that I think it is a good reason but most Americans would probably rally behind the macho aspect of it and it is the geopolitical reason he is doing it. Honest and effective.

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« Reply #2014 on: August 28, 2013, 10:40:56 PM »
Yeah.  Obama really does need to come to the forefront and give a televised speech, possibly in Congress if he can.  This is a shitty situation, and I don't support us intervening, but at the very least, I can understand it this time around due to the chemical weapons used.  And we know they were used.  Not "oh, they might might have some in the country...they might I guess."

If he doesn't, I'd be very very disappointed in Obama basically being a hypocrite to his own philosophy 7 or 8 years ago.
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« Reply #2015 on: August 28, 2013, 11:25:24 PM »
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Suspicion of President Obama only intensified after his decision to scuttle a summit meeting next week in Moscow and to describe Mr. Putin in unusually personal terms at a news conference, saying his body language often made him look “like the bored kid in the back of the classroom.”

Though Mr. Obama went on to say that their interactions were often constructive, the comment infuriated Mr. Putin, according to one Russian official not authorized to be quoted by name.
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« Reply #2016 on: August 28, 2013, 11:59:20 PM »
World-stage posturing! Even the kids love it!
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« Reply #2018 on: August 30, 2013, 11:58:13 AM »
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« Reply #2019 on: August 30, 2013, 04:06:17 PM »
They won't do shit, especially if we're involved in Syria come September/October.

It's the same playbook as last time: Obama daring them to destroy the global economy. Boehner will be able to get enough republicans (18-25) to pass a CR with dem support.
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« Reply #2020 on: August 31, 2013, 03:18:23 PM »
Very interesting article about Kentucky's embrace of Obamacare on the state level, as their two senators attempt to defund it
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/08/kentucky-obamacare-96101.html

I don't see how a governor can look at all the evidence and not accept the medicaid expansion. It will save states money by taking patients off state rolls and putting them on federal rolls. It gives states billions of dollars to set the program up (and benefit their health industry buddies, if they so choose).

In three years the government will pay 90% instead of 100% which will increase a state's costs, but is that enough to scuttle the overall state savings? The fear is that medicaid rolls will significantly increase as people try to get coverage, but the obvious response to that is to try to limit the amount of people who need medicaid. You know, with job training and shit like that.
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« Reply #2022 on: September 03, 2013, 02:39:31 PM »
I'm so used to "anti-Semitism" being a rhetorical cudgel for person who believes in the development and protection of a Jewish nation hawks that real instances of it are always surprising.

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« Reply #2023 on: September 03, 2013, 03:38:23 PM »
I'm so used to hearing Ron Paul being connected to racist cranks....


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« Reply #2024 on: September 03, 2013, 06:21:53 PM »
Holy crap, Spain's youth unemployment rate is 56.1 percent: http://www.theguardian.com/business/2013/aug/30/spain-youth-unemployment-record-high
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« Reply #2025 on: September 03, 2013, 08:08:52 PM »
You know the situation is bad when you're left with saying, "well, at least we're better off than Somalia."
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« Reply #2027 on: September 03, 2013, 09:39:06 PM »
Holy crap, Spain's youth unemployment rate is 56.1 percent: http://www.theguardian.com/business/2013/aug/30/spain-youth-unemployment-record-high

My uncle's over in Spain right now hiring for a major construction project, he says they've got protests going on all the time there. With unemployment that high, it's not hard to see why.
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« Reply #2028 on: September 03, 2013, 10:06:52 PM »
Bring back the CNT - FAI
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« Reply #2031 on: September 04, 2013, 12:55:11 PM »
The administration had a 5 year plan to invade Syria and they waited 2 years after the Arab Spring started and chemical weapons were used before deciding to go forward?

I mean I don't doubt there are always ongoing operations to destabilize unfriendly countries but not by direct military intervention.

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« Reply #2032 on: September 04, 2013, 01:02:16 PM »
:drudge http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/matt-drudge-why-would-anyone-vote-republican?ref=fpb :drudge

Dude's LTTP. I've been saying this for years.  :heh

the Drudge poll mirrors the Daily Kos one: 60%+ opposed to the war
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« Reply #2033 on: September 04, 2013, 01:13:58 PM »
Still less than background checks  for guns and we all know how that went down.
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« Reply #2034 on: September 04, 2013, 01:58:46 PM »
Mandark, explain
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« Reply #2035 on: September 04, 2013, 02:18:36 PM »
the Drudge poll mirrors the Daily Kos one: 60%+ opposed to the war

You keep saying that...

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« Reply #2036 on: September 04, 2013, 02:33:39 PM »
the Drudge poll mirrors the Daily Kos one: 60%+ opposed to the war

You keep saying that...

60%+ are opposed to the police action.
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« Reply #2037 on: September 04, 2013, 02:35:11 PM »
the Drudge poll mirrors the Daily Kos one: 60%+ opposed to the war

You keep saying that...

Get outta my head, Mandark.
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« Reply #2039 on: September 04, 2013, 02:53:44 PM »
I fully expect PD to respond with "Of course it's an act of war, even Hawkish Politician X said it was.  If someone were to bomb us, we'd consider it an act of war, etc."

To which I would say, of course it's an act of war.  But to continually refer to a limited strike as "the war" while making implicit and explicit comparisons to the Iraq invasion/occupation, joking about how there's going to be a draft, etc. is disingenuous.  It's taking advantage of a catch-all term, and eliding the difference between your subject and the connotation of your words.

Like calling Polanski's victim a "teenager" because she was 13, calling Trayvon Martin a "criminal" cause he had been caught with marijuana, or calling some old, expired stocks of ricin "WMD's" because it validates the Iraq invasion.  We don't refer to the Osirak strike as the Israel-Iraq War, or Clinton's strike against Al-Shifa as the Sudan War, or Reagan's bombing of Tripoli as the Libyan War.