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[Brehvolution]

It's disgusting they can raise money off this.

[Joe Molotov]

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/09/26/college-republicans-freak-out-when-hollyweirdo-senate-candidate-is-picked-up-at-the-airport-by-her-own-husband/

Cheebs vindicated!

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At least it was her husband and not her mom, tho.

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[Phoenix Dark]

You don't normally see republicans go at it in the senate. Corker is gonna get primary'd

[Brehvolution]

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/gop-s-dangerous-debt-limit-demand-a-christmas-tree-of-conservative-goodies

The bill, obtained by the National Review, tacks on items including a one-year delay of Obamacare; tax reform in the image of Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI); approval of the Keystone pipeline; expanded offshore drilling and other pro-oil and coal energy reforms; increases in military spending coupled with deeper cuts to domestic programs; repealing a fund in the financial regulatory reform bill; means testing for Medicare; repealing the Obamacare prevention and public health fund and medical malpractice reform.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/white-house-all-that-was-missing-from-gop-s-debt-limit-demands-was-a-birther-bill

“The only thing I didn’t see was a birther bill attached to it," Carney quipped during the White House press briefing.

[Joe Molotov]

It's like some alternate reality where Romney won the election.

[Mupepe]

Sounds like the Austria-Hungary ultimatum.

[Phoenix Dark]

Obamacare defund stripped from CR with 54-44 vote in senate. Cruz loses (surprise).

[Phoenix Dark]

holy shit Obama just got off the phone with Iran's president

[Mupepe]

bloop bloop  GOP shitstorm incoming  bloop bloop

[Joe Molotov]

I guess somebody in DC's gotta get work done.

[Vizzys]

obama had to go on national television and tell republicans to grow up

this is reality

[Brehvolution]

holy shit Obama just got off the phone with Iran's president

"We'll exchange your chemical weapons for our economic ones." 

[Great Rumbler]

holy shit Obama just got off the phone with Iran's president

HOW COME HE'LL NEGOTIATE WITH IRAN BUT NOt REPUBLICANS?!?!?!?!?!

[Mupepe]

holy shit Obama just got off the phone with Iran's president

HOW COME HE'LL NEGOTIATE WITH IRAN BUT NOt REPUBLICANS?!?!?!?!?! (Image removed from quote.)

Already happened:

Rory Cooper (works for Eric Cantor): "The President won't talk to people with bombs strapped to their chest...only the Iranian president, who literally funds that."

[Joe Molotov]

Obama picks up the phone for Iran and then drops the mic on the GOP. 

[Brehvolution]

holy shit Obama just got off the phone with Iran's president

HOW COME HE'LL NEGOTIATE WITH IRAN BUT NOt REPUBLICANS?!?!?!?!?! (Image removed from quote.)

The US doesn't negotiate with terrorists.

[Human Snorenado]

I think we're going to have a shut down.  Worse, I also think we're going to have a default.  I seriously can't think of a "come to Jesus" moment feasible with these fucking lunatics.

Time to stock up on bottled water and ammunition...

[Joe Molotov]

I think we're going to have a shut down.  Worse, I also think we're going to have a default.  I seriously can't think of a "come to Jesus" moment feasible with these fucking lunatics.

Time to stock up on bottled water and ammunition...

Get a hold of yourself, we're liberals, man!

We should stock up on blacks, mexicans, and gay sex. 

[Phoenix Dark]

Shutdown seems inevitable at this point. The House is passing a CR w/1 year Obamacare delay and an elimination of the medical device tax tonight. Democrats will strip that shit out again on Sunday.

But there is literally no way we default brehs. Let's take deep breaths. Boehner has assured K/Wall Street he won't allow that to happen. All he needs is 20 republicans to avoid default.

[Joe Molotov]

The Mitt Romney salt mine hasn't run dry yet. 

"The largest strategic error was not investing sufficiently, particularly in Hispanic TV and Hispanic outreach to help Hispanic voters understand that ours is the party of opportunity," Romney told CNN’s Jake Tapper of the lesson to be learned for GOP presidential campaigns of the future.

"I think my position and the position of our party is not well understood at the Hispanic community," said Romney. "I want to see immigration reform. I said that during the campaign. I want to make sure we have a legal immigration system that brings, in my view, more people legally to our country. I'd like to do that."

"Hispanics just don't understand how much we love them!" 

[Positive Touch]

shoulda used more spraytan breh

[Phoenix Dark]

this nicca told Hispanic people to put themselves back in the pokeball during the primaries, now he's still making excuses?

[Human Snorenado]

this nicca told Hispanic people to put themselves back in the pokeball during the primaries, now he's still making excuses?

"That's back when I was trying to get with those boring white GOP primary voters, baby.  Now I want a taste of DAT CALIENTE."

[Joe Molotov]

Remember Marco Rubio's immigration reform bill? Neither does he!

[Phoenix Dark]

Rubio definitely self deported his presidential aspirations with that bill.

[nudemacusers]

Shutdown seems inevitable at this point. The House is passing a CR w/1 year Obamacare delay and an elimination of the medical device tax tonight. Democrats will strip that shit out again on Sunday.

But there is literally no way we default brehs. Let's take deep breaths. Boehner has assured K/Wall Street he won't allow that to happen. All he needs is 20 republicans to avoid default.

I swear every time this shit happens my wife's email gets cluttered with YOU MIGHT NOT GET PAID letters and nothing ever happens. pretty gross how the republicans are trying to weasel military support out of this one.

[Oblivion]

Speaking of the debt limit, some random teabagger posted this:

So, if I write a check for $100.00 on my checking account when I have a $25.00 balance, then two weeks later deposit $75.00, I will not only have spent $75.00 more than I had, but I will owe bounced check fees. How have I not raised my 'debt ceiling'? I once had $25.00, and now I'm in debt another $75 plus fees.

[Human Snorenado]

I like to tell those people that running a country's finances is clearly analogous to running a household's finances; I know this because of that 2nd mortgage I had to take out when I declared war on Germany a couple years ago.

[Rufus]

Fiat money, how does it work? Economics should be taught in schools.

[Joe Molotov]

Here's a check for $2 Trillion for the Iraq War, but don't cash it until next week when I get paid, pls.

[Great Rumbler]

Most people have a ton of debt anyway. Credit card debt, student loans, mortgages, ect.

[Phoenix Dark]

brb lemme print some money so I can pay my Comcast bill.

[brawndolicious]

Most people have a ton of debt anyway. Credit card debt, student loans, mortgages, ect.

The average middle class person probably has more debt than assets for the majority of their life when you consider student loans, home mortgage, business loans, etc.

[Rufus]

Let's take a look at what's happening over in Britain:

George Osborne will continue the government's push to reduce welfare spending by announcing a nationwide scheme on Monday to force 200,000 long-term unemployed benefit claimants to either undertake community work, attend a jobcentre every day or go on a full-time intensive programme to tackle the underlying reasons for their failure to find work.

[...]

Polling suggests there is continued public support for ever tougher welfare crackdowns and with the Tories trailing in the polls and in need of a strong response to Ed Miliband's populist conference speech last week, strategists have returned to one of their strongest and most familiar policy areas to push the message that they are on the side of hard-working people.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/sep/29/george-osborne-crackdown-jobless-costs

[Great Rumbler]

Hey, that sounds a lot like America!

[Human Snorenado]

...no it doesn't.  Providing them community work to do and job centers to go to?  Republicans just want to line up the poor and dick punch them.

[DCharlieJP]

George Osborne will continue the government's push to reduce welfare spending by announcing a nationwide scheme on Monday to force 200,000 long-term unemployed benefit claimants to either undertake community work, attend a jobcentre every day or go on a full-time intensive programme to tackle the underlying reasons for their failure to find work.

the underlying reason for the failure to find work being there being no jobs ? or zero hour contracts? Not sure how this plan fixes anything!

Polling suggests there is continued public support for ever tougher welfare crackdowns and with the Tories trailing in the polls and in need of a strong response to Ed Miliband's populist conference speech last week, strategists have returned to one of their strongest and most familiar policy areas to push the message that they are on the side of hard-working people.

lol - i have to hand it to them : when i went back earlier this year -everyone- was blaming the cheap foreign labor and immigrants for ruining the entire country and not, you know.... the people who did the vast majority of the damage.

The Tories are full of amazing ideas - i'd revisit the bedroom tax again but my brain would turn to mush

Providing them community work to do and job centers to go to?  Republicans just want to line up the poor and dick punch them

lol - workfare is awesome. Go and do a short contract full time job for NO MONEY beyond your benefits for large multinational companies who -then- don't employ people on an actual wage because "thanks for the free workforce"

[Rufus]

the underlying reason for the failure to find work being there being no jobs ? or zero hour contracts? Not sure how this plan fixes anything!

Yeah. It would be funny if it weren't so tragic. You just have to prod them enough, they'll find work for sure! But it isn't about that any more. Make the numbers and flog those who have neither monetary nor political capital. They suffer so the City doesn't have to.

Case in point:
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/sep/30/iain-duncan-smith-sick-disabled-benefits

[Great Rumbler]

Poor people just aren't ashamed enough of their poverty, that's the problem!

[DCharlieJP]

removed because i sounded like Bernard RightON!

[Joe Molotov]

Are there any good write-ups about the consequences if the government shuts down AND we default? It's Monday morning and I'm in the mood for some post-apocalyptic fanfic.

[Rufus]

removed because i sounded like Bernard RightON!

There, there.

I should just stop reading the news myself. This ship as sailed anyway.

[nudemacusers]

Are there any good write-ups about the consequences if the government shuts down AND we default? It's Monday morning and I'm in the mood for some post-apocalyptic fanfic.

france takes over america, all men turn gay

[Joe Molotov]

Are there any good write-ups about the consequences if the government shuts down AND we default? It's Monday morning and I'm in the mood for some post-apocalyptic fanfic.

france takes over america, all men turn gay

I meant bad consequences.

[Human Snorenado]

And only now, at this late hour, has the Chamber of Commerce started to question the wisdom of riding a tiger

http://wonkette.com/530119

[Dickie Dee]

And only now, at this late hour, has the Chamber of Commerce started to question the wisdom of riding a tiger

http://wonkette.com/530119

It’s much more likely that Obama’s jillbooted transgender Muslim FEMA thugs have infiltrated the highest levels of the Chamber of Commerce, or maybe he put drugs in their Perrier and panda blood spritzers.

[Brehvolution]

#Shutdownghazi
#Straightbitchghazi

[Great Rumbler]

Obamacare still goes into place whether the government is funded or not.

[brawndolicious]

I just got an email from my congressman talking about how the Tea Partiers are now going to cause a government shutdown by holding Obamacare hostage. And that there's only 12 hours for his campaign to meet its fundraising goal for the quarter and so I should consider donating.

Best and worst time to ask for campaign contributions. I wonder how long the shutdown is going to last now.

[Human Snorenado]

 

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/redstate-s-erickson-to-gop-just-pass-a-clean-continuing-resolution

Erick, son of Erick, proprietor of Red State, is now saying that maybe the House GOP should just stfu and pass a clean CR.

[Joe Molotov]

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/redstate-s-erickson-to-gop-just-pass-a-clean-continuing-resolution

Erick, son of Erick, proprietor of Red State, is now saying that maybe the House GOP should just stfu and pass a clean CR.

Total RINO, no wonder he's moved to the liberal Fox News.

[Oblivion]

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/redstate-s-erickson-to-gop-just-pass-a-clean-continuing-resolution

Erick, son of Erick, proprietor of Red State, is now saying that maybe the House GOP should just stfu and pass a clean CR.

You kidding me? 

[Joe Molotov]

Obama's at the podium.

"One faction of one party of one branch of the government shut down major parts of the government because they don't like one law."

[Brehvolution]

Obama's at the podium.

"One faction of one party of one branch of the government shut down major parts of the government because they don't like one law."

[Brehvolution]

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/obamacare-marketplaces-overwhelmed-with-traffic

Looks like Veritas project is DDOSing the exchanges.

[Joe Molotov]

What the Obama administration is portraying as a "shutdown" of the federal government -- complete with signs posted at the entrances to government buildings, parks and monuments -- is turning out to be more of a "slimdown," as all but non-essential workers reported to their jobs Tuesday.

[Mupepe]

So basically today is how libertarians think the government should always operate?

[Steve Contra]

So basically today is how libertarians think the government should always operate?

Yes, but today in Somalia.  Not here.

[Joe Molotov]

The mail is still running. We need to free market that bitch up.

[Great Rumbler]

House Republicans formulated a strategy to turn up the pressure by passing piecemeal continuing resolutions at status quo levels to fund popular parts of the government, such as national parks and museums. The idea was first proposed by Sens. Ted Cruz (R-TX) and Mike Lee (R-UT), who spearheaded the push to shut down the government over Obamacare.


Republicans have formally rejected bicameral budget negotiations 18 times since April. And House Budget Chairman Paul Ryan (R-WI) dismissed that offer Tuesday, effectively validating Democrats' concerns by arguing that his party's strategy is to use the debt ceiling as a cudgel to achieve more budgetary reforms.

"We've wanted to go to a budget conference when we thought we had more likelihood of getting an agreement," Ryan told reporters. "If we went prematurely, that would decrease the likelihood we would have gotten a budget agreement."