US Politics Thread |OT| THE DARKEST TIMELINE

[benjipwns]

http://www.salon.com/2014/01/18/lets_nationalize_fox_news_imagining_a_very_different_media/

And there will be stories of continuing struggles to make sure that the revolution represents the entire working class—especially struggles against the old but adhesive attitudes of racism and sexism. In a society where racism and sexism are as widespread as they are in the United States, they will not evaporate simply because revolutionaries nail a “closed” sign to the door of the New York Stock Exchange.

Discussions, debates, even battles will continue, and social justice committees will be elected by the union membership to look into complaints and to dig up and root out capitalist, racist, and sexist weeds that continue to grow.

Social justice committees in each workplace and community will have no shortage of complaints to consider—and the media will have no shortage of stories to investigate.

Besides reporting news, the media will be key to ensuring the fullest public discussion and debate of policies under consideration by national and local governments, as well as of proposed changes in local workplaces, schools, and communities.

I feel like I've read this book already.

[HyperZoneWasAwesome]

Damn, Christie is going to jail.

I don't know when exactly the resignation/ouster will happen, anybody care to wager a guess?  My head says within the week, but my gut says he'll ride this out till the last possible minute, while being as big a dick about it as possible.  Possibly till the end of January.

[HyperZoneWasAwesome]

I like the headline on Foxnews.com. This obviously doesn't look good.

and re Cruz presidential chances.  The guy wants it, but he seems like a shitty candidate, dumb as Herman Cain without even his charisma/oratory skills.  He still has his Canadian citizenship and his father is an open birther.  How the hell does a guy with this many negatives get the nomination, you tell me.  The other candidates will eat him alive.

[Mandark]

http://www.salon.com/2014/01/18/lets_nationalize_fox_news_imagining_a_very_different_media/

And there will be stories of continuing struggles to make sure that the revolution represents the entire working class—especially struggles against the old but adhesive attitudes of racism and sexism. In a society where racism and sexism are as widespread as they are in the United States, they will not evaporate simply because revolutionaries nail a “closed” sign to the door of the New York Stock Exchange.

Discussions, debates, even battles will continue, and social justice committees will be elected by the union membership to look into complaints and to dig up and root out capitalist, racist, and sexist weeds that continue to grow.

Social justice committees in each workplace and community will have no shortage of complaints to consider—and the media will have no shortage of stories to investigate.

Besides reporting news, the media will be key to ensuring the fullest public discussion and debate of policies under consideration by national and local governments, as well as of proposed changes in local workplaces, schools, and communities.

I feel like I've read this book already.

Information is being suppressed and controlled by [multinational corporations/the state].  Once these powerful and oppressive institutions are disposed off, a [socialist/voluntaryist] paradise can flourish, and information will flow freely thanks to [democratic and equal access to the means of news production/freedom of contract and unfettered price signaling].  However, we must fight to achieve this.  As [Marxist/public choice] theory predicts, the [capitalist swine/entrenched bureaucracy] seeks only to maintain its current grip on power.

[benjipwns]

You need to re-read your Marx/Nock. The march of history will be unfettered/there's no fighting to be done or paradise to be found. 

[Great Rumbler]

I don't know when exactly the resignation/ouster will happen, anybody care to wager a guess?  My head says within the week, but my gut says he'll ride this out till the last possible minute, while being as big a dick about it as possible.  Possibly till the end of January.

Depends on how quickly the prosecutors grant immunity to Wildstein.

[Brehvolution]

The rights view of income inequality is this:

$15 minimum wage is part of 'entitlement culture'.

Million dollar bonuses and golden parachutes are fair compensation.

One is worth what the market will bear. If you think making a hamburger is a 15 dollar an hour job god bless you. ..and I hope he does because nobody with a 6th grade or higher education will.

You either are or you aren't...stop fucking trying to force this shit down our throat

First, I'll shove whatever the fuck I want down your throat.
Second, since hugely profitable companies are having their labor subsidized by taxpayers, quit being a socialist sympathizer.

[Phoenix Dark]

I don't know when exactly the resignation/ouster will happen, anybody care to wager a guess?  My head says within the week, but my gut says he'll ride this out till the last possible minute, while being as big a dick about it as possible.  Possibly till the end of January.

Depends on how quickly the prosecutors grant immunity to Wildstein.

Pretty much. I can't think of a reason he'd ask for immunity unless he's going to roll on the big fish, otherwise the Feds wouldn't consider granting his request. If Christie's hands are clean they'd figure it out and everyone else would go to jail.

I get the impression the state government is generally corrupt, and democrat lawmakers are going to use this as an opportunity to clean their hands by dumping all the shit on Christie. So even if the bridge stuff comes out clean for him, something else will hurt him.

[Brehvolution]

Never forget

[Joe Molotov]

Our greatest gay, muslim president. 

[Joe Molotov]

I can't even.

[Oblivion]

So 5th dimensional pixie, Reince Priebus, decided to celebrate MLK day as you would expect from the party of MLK - by bringing up Benghazi:

https://twitter.com/Reince/status/425055216296148996

Can I just ask one question? In fact, it's the ONLY question I've ever had since this farce began: Why the hell would Obama want to have his own ambassador killed?

Right-wing conspiracy theories are generally distinguished mentally-challenged, but with most of them, I can actually sorta understand the line of thinking (using that word quite loosely). The IRS thing? Yeah. Solyndra? Sure. Fuck, even the birth certificate, I can at least understand where they're coming from.

But the idea that Obama for some reason had no desire to help Chris Stevens? It would be one thing if some Republican like Boehner or Cruz was there and he gave a stand down order. At least I could see the wingnuts make an argument for that. But as it is right now? Makes even less sense than the usual bullshit these idiots peddle.

[Great Rumbler]

It doesn't have to make sense, it just has to hurt Hillary's chances of winning in 2016. Hint: it doesn't and it won't.

[Broseidon]

There are forty million poor people here, and one day we must ask the question, "Why are there forty million poor people in America?" And when you begin to ask that question, you are raising a question about the economic system, about a broader distribution of wealth. When you ask that question, you begin to question the capitalistic economy. And I'm simply saying that more and more, we've got to begin to ask questions about the whole society. We are called upon to help the discouraged beggars in life's marketplace. But one day we must come to see that an edifice which produces beggars needs restructuring. It means that questions must be raised.

Happy MLK day, my Amerikkkan friends

[Phoenix Dark]

That "what difference does it make?" quote is going to be warped to disgusting levels for the next three years.

[Great Rumbler]

It actively upsets me because 1. she was absolutely right and 2. in the very next sentence she says it's the administration's job to find the people who attacked the embassy and makes sure something like that never happens again.

But it won't matter, because the only thing that's going to come out all this drum-beating is that more and more people start to tune it out.

[Phoenix Dark]

Did the State Department do a great job handling this? No. But ultimately what were they supposed to do considering it was a CIA annex. The CIA got fucked and tried to blame the State Department, and republicans realize we'll never get the full story (again, since the place was apparently crawling with CIA operatives) so they can play politics while the WH can't say shit.

The report that just came out notes there was no "stand down" order, yet the far right will continue to repeat that lie for years to come. As I've said before, you start moving into incitement territory when you're accusing the president of letting US forces die so he could watch it on a big screen television.

[Oblivion]

That "what difference does it make?" quote is going to be warped to disgusting levels for the next three years.

I was watching the hearing live and the moment Hillary uttered those words I knew the right was gonna jump on it from now til the end of time.

[benjipwns]

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/headlines/20140118-as-wendy-davis-touts-life-story-in-race-for-governor-key-facts-blurred.ece
http://www.politico.com/story/2014/01/wendy-davis-texas-governor-race-2014-102402.html

Wendy, just remember... It's not a lie if you believe it.

[Joe Molotov]

That "what difference does it make?" quote is going to be warped to disgusting levels for the next three years.

I was watching the hearing live and the moment Hillary uttered those words I knew the right was gonna jump on it from now til the end of time.

Can't wait to see it all over my Facebook from 2016-2024.

[Great Rumbler]

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/headlines/20140118-as-wendy-davis-touts-life-story-in-race-for-governor-key-facts-blurred.ece
http://www.politico.com/story/2014/01/wendy-davis-texas-governor-race-2014-102402.html

Wendy, just remember... It's not a lie if you believe it.

Davis was 21, not 19, when she was divorced.

ZOMG STOP THE PRESSES

[Oblivion]

Yeah, I saw that yesterday and wasn't sure why the age discrepancy was supposed to be a big deal.

[benjipwns]

Because everything unimportant is the most important thing.

I just think they're strange things to lie about. Why are they always assuming nobody is going to look into anything and blow up the most insignificant things after you lied about them? Because you tried to puff up your story with this:

“I had a baby. I got divorced by the time I was 19 years old,” she testified in a recent federal lawsuit over redistricting. “After I got divorced, I lived in a mobile home park in southeast Fort Worth.”

As a working mother raising a daughter, Davis enrolled in Tarrant County Community College.

“With the help of academic scholarships and student loans, Wendy not only became the first person in her family to earn a bachelor’s degree but graduated first in her class and was accepted to Harvard Law School,” her website says.

You're now having to respond by saying stupid things like this:

Davis was 21, not 19, when she was divorced. She lived only a few months in the family mobile home while separated from her husband before moving into an apartment with her daughter.

A single mother working two jobs, she met Jeff Davis, a lawyer 13 years older than her, married him and had a second daughter. He paid for her last two years at Texas Christian University and her time at Harvard Law School, and kept their two daughters while she was in Boston. When they divorced in 2005, he was granted parental custody, and the girls stayed with him. Wendy Davis was directed to pay child support.

In an extensive interview last week, Davis acknowledged some chronological errors and incomplete details in what she and her aides have said about her life.

“My language should be tighter,” she said. “I’m learning about using broader, looser language. I need to be more focused on the detail.”

And creating odd things like this:

Davis’s Monday statement included a set of bullet points explaining aspects of her life such as when she was married and divorced, and her path to law school.

All you had to do was use your real age and add "family" to the list of things helping. You're not hiding the Manhattan Project here.

[Great Rumbler]

She'd just turned 21 when the divorce went through, her husband filed for the divorce when she was still 20.

[Mandark]

Really, benji?

[Human Snorenado]

http://www.poynter.org/latest-news/mediawire/236466/washington-post-announces-ezra-klein-is-leaving/

Traditional media is having issues retaining smart young people to work for them... continued evidence of their growing irrelevance.

[Joe Molotov]

Hoboken is one of the funniest town names in the US, right behind Yonkers.

[DCharlieJP]

When I was 26 I backpacked around the world for five months... no wait, I was 25... who gives a shit?

have this in reverse - got to fill in my India visa and it's WHEN WERE YOU HERE PREVIOUSLY? WHICH PLACE DID YOU STAY AT ON ARRIVAL? HOW OLD WERE YOU? WHICH CITIES DID YOU GO TO? WHICH VACCINATIONS DID YOU GET?

the visa form is hilarious - religions preferences is on there, my parents details, "distinguishing features" ...

[Rufus]

Are you a terrorist? [ ] yes [ ] no

[Broseidon]

Are you a terrorist? [ ] yes [ ] no

My favourite part of the form when entering the US, along with "were you a member of the Nazi party?"

[Phoenix Dark]

just wait until The Business reaches the "please circle the names on the list below" portion and realizes 69% of The Bore are recognized as known phaggotry dabblers and/or sympathizers.

[Rufus]

Are you a terrorist? [ ] yes [ ] no

My favourite part of the form when entering the US, along with "were you a member of the Nazi party?"

If you answer yes to that you get referred to the Agentinian embassy.

[Brehvolution]

Do they get pissed if you tell them to just get the info they need from the NSA?

[Joe Molotov]

I need to get in on this Governor of Virginia business. I could use a new Oscar de la Renta dress.

[Brehvolution]

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/01/21/usa-tax-fatca-idUSL2N0KV0XM20140121

 

[Great Rumbler]

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/01/21/usa-tax-fatca-idUSL2N0KV0XM20140121

 

[Joe Molotov]

I'm all for an anti-FATCAT bill.

[Great Rumbler]

Liberals want to put pot into virtually every cheap food on the market? I didn't know that!

And no liberal thinks people who produce and distribute trans-fat should be thrown in prison.

[CatsCatsCats]

Big money grasping at straws

[Brehvolution]

Hehe. I love conservative articles that rely on false equivalencies to "prove" hypocrisy.

[Joe Molotov]

Remember when we put 50 million people in jail for possessing and distributing trans fats? Those were some rough times.

[Great Rumbler]

There were many casualties in the War on Trans-Fat. White Castle Homestyle Onion Rings were the first, but they were not the last.

[Oblivion]

Isn't it hypocritical of liberals to be opposed to carbon emissions considering...

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they themselves are made of carbon?

[close]

[brawndolicious]

Isn't it hypocritical of liberals to be opposed to carbon emissions considering...

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they themselves are made of carbon?

[close]

No, look at conservative opposition to teaching/providing birth control.

[Phoenix Dark]

Preet Bharara, the United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York, and George Venizelos, the Assistant Director-in-Charge of the New York Office of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (“FBI”), announced today an Indictment charging DINESH D’SOUZA with violating the federal campaign finance laws by making illegal contributions to a United States Senate campaign in the names of others and causing false statements to be made to the Federal Election Commission in connection with those contributions. D’SOUZA is expected to be presented and arraigned tomorrow in Manhattan federal court before U.S. District Judge Richard M. Berman.

http://www.justice.gov/usao/nys/pressreleases/January14/DineshDSouzaCharges.php

[Great Rumbler]

lol owned

[Steve Contra]

[helios]

Obama's America

[Joe Molotov]

Thanks, Obama!

[Oblivion]

Preet Bharara, the United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York, and George Venizelos, the Assistant Director-in-Charge of the New York Office of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (“FBI”), announced today an Indictment charging DINESH D’SOUZA with violating the federal campaign finance laws by making illegal contributions to a United States Senate campaign in the names of others and causing false statements to be made to the Federal Election Commission in connection with those contributions. D’SOUZA is expected to be presented and arraigned tomorrow in Manhattan federal court before U.S. District Judge Richard M. Berman.

http://www.justice.gov/usao/nys/pressreleases/January14/DineshDSouzaCharges.php

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The roots of Obama's joy.

[Broseidon]

And so another patriot joins Breitbart as a victim of O's crackdown on truth-outers.

[Brehvolution]

Typical FEC false flag. Making it look like they're taking down some small time foreign looking dude while Karl Rove is laughing his ass off.

[benjipwns]

Obama's America

Two years early!

[Mandark]

With all the ways to funnel money into political campaigns these days, who gets caught making illegal donations?

Really now.

[Oblivion]

http://www.salon.com/2014/01/22/glenn_beck_says_bill_nyes_fight_against_creationism_is_like_the_catholic_churchs_war_on_galileo/

I...I...


 

[Brehvolution]

I lost interest after "glen beck says".

[Great Rumbler]

It's a well-known fact that conservatives have trouble with complex notions like "irony."

[Joe Molotov]

The best part is when he said Arne Duncan's grandchildren are going to ask him someday why he said only white surburban moms were opposed to Common Core.

I know some people feel strongly about Common Core, but it's not exactly a Crying Indian issue.

[Brehvolution]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/24/rnc-denounces-nsa-spying_n_4659634.html

The RNC resolution advises Republican lawmakers to call for a special committee that could "reveal" the extent of the NSA's spying and "hold accountable those public officials who are found to be responsible for this unconstitutional surveillance."

The resolution also calls on Republicans to seek to "amend Section 215 of the USA Patriot Act, the state secrets privilege, and the FISA Amendments Act to make it clear that blanket surveillance of the Internet activity, phone records and correspondence -- electronic, physical, and otherwise -- of any person residing in the U.S. is prohibited by law and that violations can be reviewed in adversarial proceedings before a public court."

Where did the Patriot act come from again? Necessary when they are in power, evil when they aren't.

[Great Rumbler]

The RNC resolution advises Republican lawmakers to call for a special committee that could "reveal" the extent of the NSA's spying and "hold accountable those public officials who are found to be responsible for this unconstitutional surveillance."

Okay, we can start with George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, and Donald Rumsfeld, see where we go from there.