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Re: HOBOKENGHAZI! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #3780 on: February 18, 2014, 09:21:28 PM »
The destination isn't as important as the journey.

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« Reply #3781 on: February 18, 2014, 11:14:19 PM »
I'd support programs that teach inmates trades or help them earn technical certifications. A four year degree though...probably not.

The bigger issue is that even with a degree or cert, it's nigh impossible for former inmates to find jobs.
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« Reply #3782 on: February 18, 2014, 11:22:36 PM »
I'd support programs that teach inmates trades or help them earn technical certifications. A four year degree though...probably not.

The bigger issue is that even with a degree or cert, it's nigh impossible for former inmates to find jobs.

Yup, absolutely.

Unless they go find work on Wall Street that is :P
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« Reply #3783 on: February 19, 2014, 04:43:12 AM »
Quote from:  Jim Tedisco
    “We’re a compassionate state and believe that people deserve second chances after they’ve served their time but it shouldn’t come at the expense of honest, hard-working, law-abiding taxpayers who, in many instances, can’t afford to pay their property taxes and send their own children to college.”

    “Students are mortgaging a lifetime of debt to pay for college loans yet the governor thinks criminals should get free college tuition. Rewarding criminal behavior with free college education reinforces their actions and makes them smarter criminals.”

    “This is definitely ‘Breaking Bad’ by potentially turning a bunch of Jesse Pinkmans into Walter Whites – all on the taxpayer’s dime.”

    “Soon we will be the only state where honesty and hard work are trumped by being a bad criminal. Only in New York. When can New Yorkers wake up from this nightmare?”

Can we fund a bunch of Gustavos instead?
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« Reply #3784 on: February 19, 2014, 07:19:47 AM »
The destination isn't as important as the journey.


The campaign slogan of Libertarians since Nineteen Hundred and a-long-ass-time-ago.  ;)
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Re: HOBOKENGHAZI! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #3785 on: February 19, 2014, 10:55:22 AM »
I think 4 years of college should be paid for for everyone, including inmates :yeshrug

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« Reply #3786 on: February 19, 2014, 10:58:43 AM »
A lot of the reason convicts have problems finding jobs afterwards is their tendency to end up back in prison.  And a lot of the reason they end up back in prison is the fact that they can't find decent jobs.  Vicious circle and all that.  I'm in favor of anything that may be able to break that and bring faith in rehabilitation.

Edit: And take a look at the average cost per inmate now and a 4 year degree has got to be cheaper than incarcerating them over and over.

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« Reply #3787 on: February 19, 2014, 11:17:42 AM »
And it's working so well!!

(For private prisons)

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Re: HOBOKENGHAZI! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #3788 on: February 19, 2014, 11:36:00 AM »
Especially private prisons with mandatory minimum population contracts. The dumbest thing I've ever heard of.
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Re: HOBOKENGHAZI! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #3789 on: February 19, 2014, 11:54:32 AM »
A lot of the reason convicts have problems finding jobs afterwards is their tendency to end up back in prison.  And a lot of the reason they end up back in prison is the fact that they can't find decent jobs.  Vicious circle and all that.  I'm in favor of anything that may be able to break that and bring faith in rehabilitation.

Edit: And take a look at the average cost per inmate now and a 4 year degree has got to be cheaper than incarcerating them over and over.

True but the problem wouldn't be solved as long as employers heavily discriminate against anyone with a criminal record/felony. It's sort of a catch 22 situation, and it can't be fixed with legislation.

In a perfect liberal world the government would hire former criminals/offenders into some type of WPA-esque program.
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« Reply #3790 on: February 19, 2014, 12:17:18 PM »
Hey man, I'm just trying to ensure they're properly trained and qualified to colonize Tarsonis.
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« Reply #3791 on: February 19, 2014, 01:01:46 PM »
A lot of the reason convicts have problems finding jobs afterwards is their tendency to end up back in prison.  And a lot of the reason they end up back in prison is the fact that they can't find decent jobs.  Vicious circle and all that.  I'm in favor of anything that may be able to break that and bring faith in rehabilitation.

Edit: And take a look at the average cost per inmate now and a 4 year degree has got to be cheaper than incarcerating them over and over.

True but the problem wouldn't be solved as long as employers heavily discriminate against anyone with a criminal record/felony. It's sort of a catch 22 situation, and it can't be fixed with legislation.

In a perfect liberal world the government would hire former criminals/offenders into some type of WPA-esque program.
I would be down with that, but since that will never happen I'm going to back the plan that at least gives them some sort of resource when we throw them back into the real world.  It's better than the nothing we do now.  If there's going to be a change in how felons are viewed by employers it's going to start with how society defines rehabilitation and imprisonment.  This is as good a place as any to start IMO.

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Re: HOBOKENGHAZI! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #3792 on: February 19, 2014, 01:18:32 PM »
A lot of the reason convicts have problems finding jobs afterwards is their tendency to end up back in prison.  And a lot of the reason they end up back in prison is the fact that they can't find decent jobs.  Vicious circle and all that.  I'm in favor of anything that may be able to break that and bring faith in rehabilitation.

Edit: And take a look at the average cost per inmate now and a 4 year degree has got to be cheaper than incarcerating them over and over.

Article says program cost is $5000 per year on top of incarceration costs of $60,000 per year, seems a no-brainer to me.
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Re: HOBOKENGHAZI! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #3793 on: February 19, 2014, 03:15:38 PM »
I can't wait to see people go to prison just to get a college degree.

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« Reply #3794 on: February 19, 2014, 04:00:38 PM »
I can't wait to see people go to prison just to get a college degree.
"I would kill to have a free education"

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Re: HOBOKENGHAZI! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #3795 on: February 19, 2014, 05:11:40 PM »
The campaign slogan of Libertarians since Nineteen Hundred and a-long-ass-time-ago.  ;)
I thought it was "Republicans Who Want To* Smoke Heroin With Underage Prostitutes!" Well, screw this then.

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Re: HOBOKENGHAZI! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #3797 on: February 19, 2014, 09:21:45 PM »
Massive corporation considering using the state to crush smaller competition:
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Wal-Mart Stores Inc. (WMT), the largest private employer in the U.S., said it’s looking at supporting an increase in the federal minimum wage, breaking with business and industry groups that oppose such a measure.

Wal-Mart is weighing the impact of additional payroll costs against possibly attracting more consumer dollars to its stores, David Tovar, a company spokesman, said today in a telephone interview. Increasing the minimum wage means that some of the 140 million people who shop at the chain weekly would “now have additional income,” Tovar said.

In the mid-2000s, Wal-Mart backed an increase in the federal minimum wage that eventually took effect in 2007. Asked whether Wal-Mart would support another raise in the federal minimum wage, Tovar said: “That’s something we’re looking at. Whenever there’s debates, it’s not like we look once and make a decision. We look a few times from other angles.”
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Asked to comment on the NRF’s opposition, Tovar said: “There’s plenty of occasions where we don’t necessarily agree. But it makes a decision based on where a majority of their members are. Those circumstances arise, and this one of them.”

Gap Inc. announced today that it will raise its hourly pay for U.S. employees to $9 in 2014 and $10 the following year, saying it wants to “do more than sell clothes.”
I assume that last part is referring to starting wars in Asia or something else sinister.

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Re: HOBOKENGHAZI! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #3798 on: February 19, 2014, 09:37:55 PM »
Goodness, Walmart discovers that wages are their number one source of income? Shocking display of intelligence.

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« Reply #3799 on: February 19, 2014, 09:52:13 PM »
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Update: The same Wal-Mart spokesman told the Huffington Post Wednesday afternoon that his initial comment was taken out of context: "We are not at all considering this."
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/wal-mart-considering-support-of-federal-minimum-wage-hike

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Re: HOBOKENGHAZI! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #3800 on: February 19, 2014, 09:56:37 PM »
Fuck everything. :heh

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« Reply #3801 on: February 19, 2014, 09:56:44 PM »
I knew that seemed a little odd considering how hard they fought against a wage hike in D.C.


In other news, from Scott Walker's deputy chief-of-staff:


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« Reply #3802 on: February 19, 2014, 10:08:21 PM »
Which one is him?
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« Reply #3803 on: February 19, 2014, 10:09:43 PM »
THIS IS HILARIOUS AND SO TRUE
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« Reply #3804 on: February 19, 2014, 10:11:28 PM »
The one on the left looks CGI.

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« Reply #3805 on: February 19, 2014, 10:14:46 PM »
Which one is him?

The one saying it's "hilarious" and "so true".

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« Reply #3806 on: February 19, 2014, 10:15:25 PM »
The picture was really crying out for a "such handouts wow much welfare state" edit. This is why you keep losing the youth vote, Republicans.
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Re: HOBOKENGHAZI! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #3807 on: February 20, 2014, 09:18:29 AM »
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/02/19/us-vw-usplant-idUSBREA1I0S820140219

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"I can imagine fairly well that another VW factory in the United States, provided that one more should still be set up there, does not necessarily have to be assigned to the south again," said Bernd Osterloh, head of VW's works council.

"If co-determination isn't guaranteed in the first place, we as workers will hardly be able to vote in favor" of potentially building another plant in the U.S. south, Osterloh, who is also on VW's supervisory board, said.

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"The conservatives stirred up massive, anti-union sentiments," Osterloh said. "It's possible that the conclusion will be drawn that this interference amounted to unfair labor praxis

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Re: HOBOKENGHAZI! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #3808 on: February 20, 2014, 09:33:41 AM »
come to Michigan

oh wait we're right to work, but you can still come!
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« Reply #3809 on: February 20, 2014, 09:56:17 PM »


 :obama :umad
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« Reply #3810 on: February 21, 2014, 01:21:57 AM »
That's like a foxnews.com comment section word cloud.

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« Reply #3811 on: February 21, 2014, 10:35:30 AM »
Career criminal Tom DeLay paving the way for his comeback:

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Re: HOBOKENGHAZI! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #3812 on: February 21, 2014, 07:18:51 PM »
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Conservative activist and rocker Ted Nugent apologized Friday for using the term "subhuman mongrel" to describe President Barack Obama.

"I do apologize–not necessarily to the President–but on behalf of much better men than myself," he said in an interview with conservative radio host Ben Ferguson, who's also a CNN political commentator.

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Nugent said he apologizes "for using the streetfighter terminology of 'subhuman mongrel' instead of just using more understandable language, such as 'violator of his oath to the Constitution'."

In his apology, Nugent appeared to regret more the fact that his language has been tied to Republican politicians from his state, such as Abbott, Gov. Rick Perry, and Sen. Ted Cruz.

"I apologize for using the term," he said. "I will try to elevate my vernacular to the level of those great men that I'm learning from in the world of politics."
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« Reply #3813 on: February 21, 2014, 08:22:02 PM »
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streetfighter terminology
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« Reply #3814 on: February 21, 2014, 08:58:21 PM »
More like lynch mob terminology

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« Reply #3815 on: February 21, 2014, 11:21:44 PM »

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« Reply #3816 on: February 22, 2014, 03:22:56 AM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_election_in_Michigan,_2014#Declared_5
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« Reply #3817 on: February 22, 2014, 09:02:32 AM »
I look forward to hearing an onslaught of attack ads against Gary Peters every six years instead of two years. They always make him sound like a pervert.

I'm kind of surprised at how much attention the Nugent comments have gotten this week. Man, just imagine how insane republicans will go next year when the Hillary train starts going; they're already throwing old shit at her. I always debate whether it's easier to get away with racism or sexism, politically. My friends tend to disagree but I still think racism is easier, especially in this era where if something doesn't meet the Webster dictionary definition of racism, it's not racism. Example: "Nugent didn't say Obama was inferior due to his race, why are you playing the race card."

Republicans have said so much slick shit about Obama since 2007 without sparking outrage (food stamp president, only own because of white guilt, etc), outside of liberal corners. But I can't see republicans getting away with blatant sexism against Hillary in the next two years. I'd bet money we will hear comments about women shouldn't be the head of the house/presidency, "that time of the month," is she strong enough, is she smart enough, presidents shouldn't cry, etc. Good luck with that shit, especially with women voters.
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« Reply #3818 on: February 22, 2014, 10:56:23 AM »
Man, just imagine how insane republicans will go next year when the Hillary train starts going; they're already throwing old shit at her.
Man I can't wait for the return of Whitewater*

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« Reply #3819 on: February 22, 2014, 11:18:36 AM »
I'm even more excited about the inevitable return of FlameOfCallonor who will no doubt explain to us why we just don't understand Bengazi and his negative experiences with female bosses in the private sector.
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« Reply #3820 on: February 22, 2014, 06:13:16 PM »
More like lynch mob terminology

George Lynch was in Lynch Mob, not Ted.
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« Reply #3821 on: February 23, 2014, 01:40:54 PM »
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The Tea Party challenger to Sen. Pat Roberts (R-KS) in Kansas posted on Facebook graphic x-ray images of deceased patients who suffered serious injuries and poked fun at the images, the Topeka Capital-Journal reported on Saturday.

Dr. Milton Wolf, a radiologist, told the Capital-Journal that the images were uploaded legally. Wolf's personal Facebook account, where he published the x-rays, was disabled when he launched his bid for Senate.

Wolf would not say whether he continued to post such images to social media sites.

"I'm not going to play these kinds of gotcha games," he told the Capital-Journal.

Wolf posted a 3D image of a gunshot wound to a victim's head according to excerpts published by the Capital-Journal. When one commenter asked why the head wasn't straight on the image, Wolf wrote, "it's not like the patient was going to complain."

And when a later commenter said he wished that Wolf had instead posted a 3D medical image of breast augmentation, Wolf joked back.

"Ha! Jeff, now that was funny. Just be glad I'm not a gastroenterologist then," he wrote.

On another image Wolf posted of a gunshot wound, he joked that it reminded him of the movie "The Terminator 2."

"It reminds (me) of the scene from Terminator 2 when they shoot the liquid metal terminator guy in the face at close range and it kind of splits him open temporarily almost like a flower blooming," he wrote. "We all find beauty in different things."
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/wolf-x-rays-serious-injuries

I look forward to his anti-Obamacare ads.

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« Reply #3822 on: February 23, 2014, 02:18:59 PM »
Compassionate conservatism, family values, ect.
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« Reply #3823 on: February 23, 2014, 02:54:57 PM »
Why did he post those pics exactly?

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« Reply #3824 on: February 23, 2014, 10:20:12 PM »
Why did he post those pics exactly?

Gunshot wounds are p. hilarious.
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« Reply #3826 on: February 24, 2014, 04:05:59 AM »
Just discovered that along with Galaxy Quest there are a bunch of Firing Line's available on Amazon Video free with Prime. No idea how many, but tons of them. Which might explain why Hoover started and has been continuing to post preview clips on YouTube after pretending it didn't exist for years.

Just watched a few, one with Saul Alinsky full of him chain smoking, Buckley doing his little pokes and then smirking, terribly dressed 1970s students plus one hot chick, etc. One from 1966 with Barry Goldwater where in his blatantly honest style he basically predicts everything that winds up happening, Reagan (elected three days earlier) as a rising star and Robert Kennedy/Vietnam becoming a real threat to LBJ, Nixon being the nominee in '68, conservatives pushing out the liberals and vice versa in the Democratic Party because it leads to elections like his (and he suggests the Democrats might suffer their own soon for similar reasons) but that Vietnam wouldn't divide the Republicans and that no matter what this whole deal is breaking down the checks and balances and empowering the Presidency because Congress can't be assed to stand up for itself. Also one with Christopher Hitchens and some beyond annoying Norm Macdonald looking dork from the 1980s that's actually also on YouTube in full where you can tell Buckley prefers Hitchens and how alike they are in sense of humor (chuckling at each others high level jokes) even as he agrees more with the dork. It's almost worth watching just for how annoying the one taco is (and how many times he tries to enlist Bill like he's the teacher of the classroom to shut Hitchens up):


I've read there's one where apparently Buckley and John Kenneth Galbraith basically just spend an hour throwing snarky jabs at each other because they were buddies. Will have to look for that one.

Firing Line and Uncommon Knowledge* are two I've always liked for how little they were really concerned about the "politics as sport" aspect which dominates [pick your famous show now] along with how calm and allowance there is for guests to speak at length. Even that Hitchens one which is setup by the 1984 destruction of Mondale is more about grand historical and ideological trends within themselves rather than how it can help the parties in the next election. The Goldwater one is kinda stark when they go to audience questions and 80% of them are basically wanting Buckley and Goldwater's opinions about the (two years away) 1968 election and you can tell both are massively disappointed.  :lol

*Hell, even old Crossfire, and to an extent The McLaughlin Group had a lot of these qualities even as they spawned the modern political debate show's worst aspects. The ol Crossfire classic with Frank Zappa:

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« Reply #3827 on: February 24, 2014, 11:14:01 AM »
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Dean of the House Congressman John Dingell to retire – A tribute with PHOTOS

Last summer John Dingell became the longest serving member of Congress, breaking a record formerly held by Senator Robert Byrd. During his 58 years in Congress, John Dingell has been a champion of nearly every single progressive cause you could name. Every session he has introduced legislation to create a single-payer healthcare system in the United States of America, taking over a tradition started by his father who preceded him in Congress.

Today, at a Legislative Forum being held by the Southern Wayne County Regional Chamber, John Dingell will announce his retirement.

John Dingell’s time in office crosses six decades. His fingerprints can be found on some of the most transformative legislation in our country’s history:

    The Clean Air Act
    The Civil Rights Act
    The Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP)
    The Endangered Species Act
    The National Environmental Policy Act
    The Pollution Prevention Act
    The FDA Food Safety Modernization Act
    The Energy Policy and Conservation Acts of 1975 & 1976
    The Affordable Care Act (“Obamacare”)
http://www.eclectablog.com/2014/02/dean-of-the-house-congressman-john-dingell-to-retire-a-tribute-with-photos.html

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John Dingell confronted by angry tea partiers at Obamacare forum in Romulus

With regard to the Affordable Care Act, at an historic public forum in Inkster before its passage, an event covered in great detail here at Eclectablog, the Congressman was asked “DID YOU EVEN READ THE BILL???” His response? “Read it? I WROTE it!”
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« Reply #3828 on: February 24, 2014, 12:55:34 PM »
Can we finally put the Angry Black Man meme to rest for good and replace it with Angry Old White Person Who Is Afeard of Everything?
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« Reply #3829 on: February 24, 2014, 04:56:35 PM »
Angry black men -> localized violence -> unsightly, weakness, national shame, no planning, divisive -> illegitimate.
Angry white men -> internationalized violence -> exciting! strength! national pride! planning! unity! EXPORTS! -> legitimate

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Angry white men -> localized violence -> totality of the circs, force was discharged, the fact pattern as presented, due process, officer safety, scumbags had it coming -> legitimate
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Angry white people -> deferred violence -> the democratic process! will of the people! the people have spoken! the great debate! the most important right! -> legitimate
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« Reply #3830 on: February 24, 2014, 10:45:42 PM »
Be Black and demonstrate with a white supremacist organisation, brehs
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« Reply #3831 on: February 24, 2014, 11:10:50 PM »
I just skipped a few minutes in because I'm a lazy cunt :yeshrug

also yes i've never heard of him
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« Reply #3832 on: February 24, 2014, 11:13:01 PM »
lol i just read his wiki entry.

so he's one of the good ones, eh
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« Reply #3833 on: February 25, 2014, 01:41:33 AM »
Where's the unskewed polls guy to fix what's been going on with Rasmussen? http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_obama_job_approval-1044.html

It's been positive and growing for two weeks or more now.

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« Reply #3834 on: February 25, 2014, 09:03:14 AM »
His #1 Chart Topping Single:



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Peterson has also thanked "God and white people" for slavery adding if it weren't for the slave trade, blacks might have never made it to the promised land and described slave ships as akin to "being on a crowded airplane".

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« Reply #3835 on: February 25, 2014, 11:14:09 AM »
I hope he gets lynched

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Re: HOBOKENGHAZI! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #3836 on: February 25, 2014, 11:44:10 AM »
I hope he gets lynched

He'll get to go to White Heaven with Ronald Reagan.
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Re: HOBOKENGHAZI! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #3837 on: February 25, 2014, 11:46:20 AM »
I hope he gets lynched

He'll get to go to White Heaven with Ronald Reagan.

But would he get along with Uncle Ruckus?

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Re: HOBOKENGHAZI! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #3839 on: February 25, 2014, 04:30:38 PM »
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