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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #5700 on: June 30, 2014, 04:15:37 PM »
Don't really have much to say about today's ruling other than we have a long way left to go and people should remember that when they drone on about their me too fucking bullshit.

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #5701 on: June 30, 2014, 04:16:08 PM »
Thank you.  :)
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #5702 on: June 30, 2014, 04:51:34 PM »
If I have time later I'll go into some of the more absurd consequences of double taxation avoidance (e.g. businesses becoming very generous banks for their shareholders because they loan back their bonuses), but you're welcome.

I think your average American would be absolutely appalled at much of the corporate tax code if they knew anything about it beyond what the statutory tax rates are, but unfortunately the field is an opaque legal masquerade and that's hard to get excited about or express in the vernacular to people who have no accounting background.

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #5703 on: June 30, 2014, 04:54:30 PM »
If I have time later I'll go into some of the more absurd consequences of double taxation avoidance (e.g. businesses becoming very generous banks for their shareholders because they loan back their bonuses), but you're welcome.

I think your average American would be absolutely appalled at much of the corporate tax code if they knew anything about it beyond what the statutory tax rates are, but unfortunately the field is an opaque legal masquerade and that's hard to get excited about or express in the vernacular to people who have no accounting background.

but Karakand, we have the highest corporate tax rate in the developed world. It's time to get government out of the way so businesses can create jobs.
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #5704 on: June 30, 2014, 05:02:19 PM »
We should have an Accounting Bore sub thread or something. I will freely admit that tax law/accounting bores the shit out of me though, so I'll never go into it.
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #5705 on: June 30, 2014, 05:24:22 PM »
We should have an Accounting Bore sub thread or something. I will freely admit that tax law/accounting bores the shit out of me though, so I'll never go into it.

we should just buy the forum from Demi
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #5706 on: June 30, 2014, 05:32:42 PM »
http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/barack-carter-article-1.1847138

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It’s now official: On foreign policy, Barack Obama is worse than Jimmy Carter.

For decades, Carter’s presidency was synonymous with weakness on the world stage. The late 1970’s was the era of double-digit inflation, a worldwide oil crisis, Iranian hostages and Soviet military advances from Latin America to Afghanistan. So pathetic was America’s predicament at the time that the late Massachusetts Sen. Ted Kennedy mounted a primary challenge to Carter from the left.

Obama’s rise to power mirrored his Democratic predecessor’s in many ways. Both men came to office in the wake of widespread public disenchantment with the political establishment, and promoted themselves as outsiders and breaths of fresh air. Both men spoke of surmounting what they portrayed as Americans’ exaggerated anxieties about the dangers hyped by fear-mongering conservatives.

For Carter, in a 1977 commencement speech, it was “our inordinate fear of communism” that Americans needed to overcome. For Obama, in his 2009 Cairo address, it was the “fear” and “mistrust” that had grown between the West and Muslim world in the wake of the 9/11 terrorist attacks. Both men came into office emphasizing the promotion of human rights as a crucial dimension of American foreign policy. And both men gave the impression that their good intentions would be enough to accomplish these Herculean tasks.

Unfortunately, as is often the case, the reality of the world came crashing down.
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #5707 on: June 30, 2014, 05:51:16 PM »
I really don't know why I clicked on that article. :snoop

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #5708 on: June 30, 2014, 06:02:28 PM »
oh boy i hope a republican becomes president in 2016 so we can go back to wartime status 24/7 :goty
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #5709 on: June 30, 2014, 06:05:09 PM »
oh boy i hope a republican becomes president in 2016 so we can go back to wartime status 24/7 :goty

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #5710 on: June 30, 2014, 06:07:58 PM »
The nice sleight of hand in Hobby Lobby is how the opinion is basically all "Congress, you made us do this, you tied our hands!"


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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #5712 on: June 30, 2014, 06:41:11 PM »


it begins.

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #5713 on: June 30, 2014, 06:48:33 PM »
How? Kennedy clearly is pro-life but he supports gay marriage so...
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #5714 on: June 30, 2014, 06:56:21 PM »
We should have an Accounting Bore sub thread or something. I will freely admit that tax law/accounting bores the shit out of me though, so I'll never go into it.

we should just buy the forum from Demi
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #5715 on: June 30, 2014, 07:08:46 PM »
We should have an Accounting Bore sub thread or something. I will freely admit that tax law/accounting bores the shit out of me though, so I'll never go into it.

we should just buy the forum from Demi
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #5717 on: June 30, 2014, 08:50:30 PM »
How? Kennedy clearly is pro-life but he supports gay marriage so...

It stops gays from using all the birth control. They'll have to raw dog it like Jesus intended.
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #5718 on: June 30, 2014, 08:52:12 PM »
According to studies, most gays are doing that anyway so

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #5719 on: June 30, 2014, 09:01:13 PM »
hence HIV/AIDs cases increasing
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #5720 on: June 30, 2014, 09:03:23 PM »
According to studies, most gays are doing that anyway so

Then truly the homofascists have been defeated. By the regular fascists.
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #5721 on: June 30, 2014, 09:12:55 PM »
How fucking gross a person do you have to be to sincerely use the epithet homofascist.

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #5722 on: June 30, 2014, 09:24:11 PM »
How fucking gross a person do you have to be to sincerely use the epithet homofascist.
Learn some history buddy: http://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/the-revolution-of-the-family-the-marxist-roots-of-homosexualism
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Others have pointed out the Marxist origins of the Sexual Revolution as a whole, and it is clear that the sudden explosion of homosexualism is merely the next logical step in a systematic programme. A close cousin to radical feminism and grandchild of Marxism, homosexualism was developed out of the politico-academic pseudo-field of “gender studies” and has, for 30 or 40 years, been pushed on a mostly unwilling public, through “anti-discrimination” and “equalities” legislation by a coalition of lobbyists, NGOs and politicians on the extreme left, and in increasingly powerful international circles.

Peter Tatchell is a prominent British homosexualist, which means he is a proponent of a specific political and social ideology that he wants to see adopted in British society and elsewhere. He is also a homosexual man, that is, he experiences sexual attraction for other men, a condition whose origin is still debated by doctors, psychiatrists and geneticists. The two things are not the same. This is a fact that tends to escape a lot of people who read and write about the Culture Wars, especially in its current manifestation that seems to have suddenly become all about homosexuality. Not all homosexuals are homosexualists, and not all homosexualists are homosexuals.

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #5723 on: June 30, 2014, 09:41:03 PM »
hence HIV/AIDs cases increasing
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AIDS is not increasing, but HIV is. And wouldn't be if PrEP was made more easily available/advertised.

and, in reality, if you live in America HIV is really super manageable and you're more likely to die from cancer or a heart attack, or being struck by lightning, or being hit by a car

(but this is actually a really strong reason why condom use is decreasing in gays)

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #5724 on: June 30, 2014, 10:04:23 PM »
:bow Britain :bow

"Scottish parliament votes to legalise gay marriage
Bill passed by 105 to 18 after several attempts to add extra protections for religious celebrants are voted down"

YES to rights, NO to religious mongs. Not even close. As a vote that is utter destruction. Plus rainbow on the day the vote was passed. :rock

Sometimes Britain gets things so so right - see also : Teaching creationism as science now banned in all UK Schools.

You see - even though we have a some right scheming folks in our politics, the top and bottom of it is they aren't going to doom generations of young folk.
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #5725 on: June 30, 2014, 10:08:21 PM »
Well they are, just economically. :hitler

Learn some history buddy: http://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/the-revolution-of-the-family-the-marxist-roots-of-homosexualism
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Others have pointed out the Marxist origins of the Sexual Revolution as a whole, and it is clear that the sudden explosion of homosexualism is merely the next logical step in a systematic programme. A close cousin to radical feminism and grandchild of Marxism, homosexualism was developed out of the politico-academic pseudo-field of “gender studies” and has, for 30 or 40 years, been pushed on a mostly unwilling public, through “anti-discrimination” and “equalities” legislation by a coalition of lobbyists, NGOs and politicians on the extreme left, and in increasingly powerful international circles.

Peter Tatchell is a prominent British homosexualist, which means he is a proponent of a specific political and social ideology that he wants to see adopted in British society and elsewhere. He is also a homosexual man, that is, he experiences sexual attraction for other men, a condition whose origin is still debated by doctors, psychiatrists and geneticists. The two things are not the same. This is a fact that tends to escape a lot of people who read and write about the Culture Wars, especially in its current manifestation that seems to have suddenly become all about homosexuality. Not all homosexuals are homosexualists, and not all homosexualists are homosexuals.

I am definitely NOT clicking this link. :kobeyuck  :stahp

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #5726 on: June 30, 2014, 10:38:53 PM »
:bow Britain :bow

"Scottish parliament votes to legalise gay marriage
Bill passed by 105 to 18 after several attempts to add extra protections for religious celebrants are voted down"

YES to rights, NO to religious mongs. Not even close. As a vote that is utter destruction. Plus rainbow on the day the vote was passed. :rock

Sometimes Britain gets things so so right - see also : Teaching creationism as science now banned in all UK Schools.

You see - even though we have a some right scheming folks in our politics, the top and bottom of it is they aren't going to doom generations of young folk.

If Scottish independence passes, does that mean UK goes back to being crap?  :hitler
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #5727 on: June 30, 2014, 10:47:59 PM »
I really don't know why I clicked on that article. :snoop

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #5728 on: June 30, 2014, 10:52:07 PM »
Instead of sentient robots/Skynet we get sentient corporations
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I know, man. Of all the near-future, cyberpunk tropes to come true... Do we have cybernetic limbs, cybernetic brains, flying cars, sentient AIs, flying cars controlled by sentient AIs, are we jacked in a 3D virtual cybermatrix, doing sweet hacker shit? No, we just got megacorps and eroded civil liberties. Thanks, Obama!

They have prosthetic penises for the wealthy and erectile dysfunctioned and chat bots for the lonely and afraid. We live in the world we created.

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #5729 on: June 30, 2014, 11:24:53 PM »
http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/barack-carter-article-1.1847138

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It’s now official: On foreign policy, Barack Obama is worse than Jimmy Carter.

For decades, Carter’s presidency was synonymous with weakness on the world stage. The late 1970’s was the era of double-digit inflation, a worldwide oil crisis, Iranian hostages and Soviet military advances from Latin America to Afghanistan. So pathetic was America’s predicament at the time that the late Massachusetts Sen. Ted Kennedy mounted a primary challenge to Carter from the left.

Obama’s rise to power mirrored his Democratic predecessor’s in many ways. Both men came to office in the wake of widespread public disenchantment with the political establishment, and promoted themselves as outsiders and breaths of fresh air. Both men spoke of surmounting what they portrayed as Americans’ exaggerated anxieties about the dangers hyped by fear-mongering conservatives.

For Carter, in a 1977 commencement speech, it was “our inordinate fear of communism” that Americans needed to overcome. For Obama, in his 2009 Cairo address, it was the “fear” and “mistrust” that had grown between the West and Muslim world in the wake of the 9/11 terrorist attacks. Both men came into office emphasizing the promotion of human rights as a crucial dimension of American foreign policy. And both men gave the impression that their good intentions would be enough to accomplish these Herculean tasks.

Unfortunately, as is often the case, the reality of the world came crashing down.
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I honestly don't understand how right-wingers love making Jimmy Carter a punchline, mostly due to the hostage crisis, when Saint Ronald of Reagan suffered his own hostage crisis.

Yeah, yeah. I know, I know, conservatives gonna conservative and all that, but still.

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #5730 on: July 01, 2014, 09:44:01 AM »
If anyone asks for a raise where they work, are they a Marxist? I see Marxism thrown around all the time like a 4 letter word by people who work for other people. It seems to be wrongly touted that Marxism is the opposite of capitalism.
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #5731 on: July 01, 2014, 10:30:41 AM »
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/06/the-supreme-courts-cold-indifference-to-americas-workers/373725/
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The majority opinion discussed the unionized workers as if they were lumps of clay. First, Alito wrote that SEIU “was designated” as the workers’ exclusive representative. (Remember, the workers voted for it.) Anyway, what bargaining could there be? The workers are paid at “the hourly rate set by law,” so the workers have nothing to say there. Finally, he cited a provision of federal law that denies union rights to “any individual employed ... in the domestic service of any family or person at his home.” 

To the majority, then, the home-care workers aren’t professionals at all. They are glorified maids. Case closed.

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So the best offer from the majority was, either let the government pay for whatever the families don’t want to, or offer the families an accommodation that they haven’t asked for, won’t commit to accepting, other religious groups have already declined, and the Court itself may not approve.
And here’s a second common feature of both of Monday’s opinion: both, in essence, beg the conservative advocacy groups to bring new challenges to public-employee unions and the contraceptive mandate. Harris does not overturn Abood, but the majority directs a torrent of abuse toward the case and suggests it’s only leaving it alone because it doesn’t have to do otherwise to decide this particular case. The Court hinted that challenges to the “mandate” would be limited to “closely held” corporations, but it explicitly refused to rule out challenges by corporate giants like Exxon.

Bring us a case and we will wipe out the “agency fee” altogether, their opinion hints. And bring us Obamacare cases, lots of Obamacare cases.

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« Reply #5732 on: July 01, 2014, 10:58:44 AM »
:drudge Boring tax post. :drudge

Most of the businesses I work with don't operate on a cash basis (recording transactions when cash actually changes hands), they recognize income and expenses as they're incurred (the accrual method). So, when earlier I talked about C corporations that are closely held avoiding corporate income tax by paying bonuses to their owner(s), they can be in situations where they don't actually have enough cash on hand to pay the bonus. (To avoid paying a few thousand dollars in corporate income tax, you end up paying much more than that in a bonus given the fact that the statutory corporate tax rate isn't 100% of taxable net income. :ussrcry)

Quite an awkward situation, to be a deadbeat like that. So how do you handle it? Why your owner(s) loan the bonus(es) back to the company without ever taking the cash personally, of course! "Well what do they get out of that?" you might ask. (After all, the wage income is still taxable to the owner(s) in the current year even if they haven't actually received the cash.) Why they get interest on their loan, and they now have a conduit to more easily extract taxable income from the C corporation. (You don't pay payroll taxes on interest income like you do on wage income, and interest expenses are deductible for corporate tax purposes, even nonsensical interest expenses like these.) And while the owner(s) have now essentially turned their business into a bank, they aren't paying themselves interest that they might expect to get at a bank on their completely unnecessary loan, in my experience they pay themselves between 5 and 8 percent interest. At this point I'd just like to give you a friendly reminder that legally speaking, this C corporation is treated as a distinct legal person from its owner(s) even though it's clearly their plaything. Well unless it means the C corporation has to pay for birth control, then suddenly it's an extension of the religious beliefs of its owner(s).

This is one front in the silly game of tax accounting wherein you don't really spend your time accurately reporting to bring companies into compliance, you spend your time setting up, tracking, and recording the various methods in which owner(s) extract money out of their C corporation to avoid paying corporate income tax.

Let's talk rent. A business has to be somewhere, right? For a larger business, rent can be quite an expensive fixed cost given that commercial real estate isn't necessarily in sync with residential real estate. So, you'd think that if the opportunity to buy its location ever presented itself, a business would jump at the chance to do so as to relieve themselves of this fixed cost. (Despite what a marginal utility adherent will tell you, reducing costs is also a way to create profit... not to infuse this post with a bad case of the Marxiness.) Well my friend, you'd be wrong. The owner(s) still buy the property mind you, but they buy it through another legal entity that they just happen to own (usually a pass-through entity) and the core C corporation still pays rent. Now the owner(s) have yet another conduit to extract taxable income from the core C corporation (like the nonsensical interest above, this rent expense is also treated as being completely legitimate for tax purposes), and it just so happens to be one that also isn't subject to the same payroll taxes as wage income. My what a coincidence of events!

The 3.8% Medicare tax on individual net investment income that was included in the Affordable Care Act made the sort of people who engage in these activities detailed above quite angry, you can imagine. Almost as much as poor people being able to see a doctor without facing financial ruin. Almost.

Be sure to join us next time wherein I show you just how absurd a large corporation can become when it tries to extract as much taxable income from itself as possible. :tophat
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #5733 on: July 01, 2014, 01:26:36 PM »
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/06/the-supreme-courts-cold-indifference-to-americas-workers/373725/
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The majority opinion discussed the unionized workers as if they were lumps of clay. First, Alito wrote that SEIU “was designated” as the workers’ exclusive representative. (Remember, the workers voted for it.) Anyway, what bargaining could there be? The workers are paid at “the hourly rate set by law,” so the workers have nothing to say there. Finally, he cited a provision of federal law that denies union rights to “any individual employed ... in the domestic service of any family or person at his home.” 

To the majority, then, the home-care workers aren’t professionals at all. They are glorified maids. Case closed.

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So the best offer from the majority was, either let the government pay for whatever the families don’t want to, or offer the families an accommodation that they haven’t asked for, won’t commit to accepting, other religious groups have already declined, and the Court itself may not approve.
And here’s a second common feature of both of Monday’s opinion: both, in essence, beg the conservative advocacy groups to bring new challenges to public-employee unions and the contraceptive mandate. Harris does not overturn Abood, but the majority directs a torrent of abuse toward the case and suggests it’s only leaving it alone because it doesn’t have to do otherwise to decide this particular case. The Court hinted that challenges to the “mandate” would be limited to “closely held” corporations, but it explicitly refused to rule out challenges by corporate giants like Exxon.

Bring us a case and we will wipe out the “agency fee” altogether, their opinion hints. And bring us Obamacare cases, lots of Obamacare cases.

Scalia, Kennedy, and Thomas really need to go somewhere very far away and not ever come back.
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #5734 on: July 01, 2014, 01:31:09 PM »
Can we behead 2000 Nader voters alongside Wall Street execs?
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« Reply #5736 on: July 01, 2014, 10:16:50 PM »
Can we behead 2000 Nader voters alongside Wall Street execs?

I don't think my vote in Georgia was the margin of victory :wag

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #5737 on: July 01, 2014, 11:23:16 PM »
I wrote in Howard Stern for some local thing one time cause the only person actually running was Republican. :teehee
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« Reply #5739 on: July 02, 2014, 12:17:09 AM »
I routinely vote for Eugene Debs as a write in. 

I know of no law that says a dead person can't win an election. :yeshrug

http://www.marxists.org/archive/debs/works/1918/court.htm

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #5740 on: July 02, 2014, 01:01:54 AM »
I know of no law that says a dead person can't win an election. :yeshrug
The only law is that the loser becomes Attorney General.

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« Reply #5741 on: July 02, 2014, 01:58:37 PM »
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/07/hobby-lobby-is-already-creating-new-religious-demands-on-obama/373853/

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This week, in the Hobby Lobby case, the Supreme Court ruled that a religious employer could not be required to provide employees with certain types of contraception. That decision is beginning to reverberate: A group of faith leaders is urging the Obama administration to include a religious exemption in a forthcoming LGBT anti-discrimination action.

Their call, in a letter sent to the White House Tuesday, attempts to capitalize on the Supreme Court case by arguing that it shows the administration must show more deference to the prerogatives of religion.

"We are asking that an extension of protection for one group not come at the expense of faith communities whose religious identity and beliefs motivate them to serve those in need," the letter states.

Give an inch and they'll take a mile. Thanks scotus.
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #5742 on: July 02, 2014, 02:09:49 PM »
Sorry, Obummer, my religion says I shouldn't have to hire blah people or gays. :smug
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #5743 on: July 02, 2014, 04:18:46 PM »
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/07/hobby-lobby-is-already-creating-new-religious-demands-on-obama/373853/

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This week, in the Hobby Lobby case, the Supreme Court ruled that a religious employer could not be required to provide employees with certain types of contraception. That decision is beginning to reverberate: A group of faith leaders is urging the Obama administration to include a religious exemption in a forthcoming LGBT anti-discrimination action.

Their call, in a letter sent to the White House Tuesday, attempts to capitalize on the Supreme Court case by arguing that it shows the administration must show more deference to the prerogatives of religion.

"We are asking that an extension of protection for one group not come at the expense of faith communities whose religious identity and beliefs motivate them to serve those in need," the letter states.

Give an inch and they'll take a mile. Thanks scotus.

Not worried about that given Kennedy's pro-gay marriage views.
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #5744 on: July 02, 2014, 04:30:36 PM »

 :comeon

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #5745 on: July 02, 2014, 04:39:13 PM »
Dat Reagan mythos. Truly the greatest actor of all-time, playing his most convincing role.
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #5746 on: July 02, 2014, 04:44:37 PM »
worse then W?

really?  C'mon, really?

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #5747 on: July 02, 2014, 04:50:03 PM »
Telephone interview.
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #5748 on: July 02, 2014, 05:24:53 PM »
The 33% that think Obama is the worst and the 35% that think Reagan is the best are almost entirely the same group.
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #5749 on: July 02, 2014, 05:46:46 PM »
worse then W?

really?  C'mon, really?
9/11 and New Orleans have got nothing on Obamacare and Benghazi!
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #5750 on: July 02, 2014, 06:35:05 PM »
Dat Kennedy myth. Fucker made some really dumb decisions. (and a few good ones, but still gets way more credit that he deserves)
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #5751 on: July 02, 2014, 07:45:42 PM »
Hey, I'm just thrilled I will still have a store open that will sell giant wood letters and plastic flowers at an affordable price.
Not for long! http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/01/george-takei-hobby-lobby_n_5548303.html
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George Takei Blasts High Court's Birth Control Ruling, Calls For Hobby Lobby Boycott




Oh, and did anyone else see this hot garbage: https://twitter.com/SandraFluke/status/484006521131393024/photo/1

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #5752 on: July 02, 2014, 08:07:50 PM »
 :lol

I remember reading some older feminists were butthurt over Sandra becoming more popular than those who put more work into the movement, so to speak. What better way to rustle their jimmies than a #StandWithSandra hashtag.
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #5753 on: July 02, 2014, 08:58:24 PM »
Couldn't they have done #NoBusinessOfMyBoss?

#NotMyBossBusiness is the obvious result of trying to hashtag something with a punctuation mark.

e: I'm practically a SEO with this genius branding.

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #5754 on: July 02, 2014, 10:16:43 PM »
Dat Kennedy myth. Fucker made some really dumb decisions. (and a few good ones, but still gets way more credit that he deserves)

But he made us feel soooo good about ourselves.
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #5755 on: July 02, 2014, 10:52:28 PM »




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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #5756 on: July 02, 2014, 11:30:34 PM »
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #5757 on: July 03, 2014, 01:54:53 AM »
Wow. Realsatire.


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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #5759 on: July 03, 2014, 03:53:36 AM »
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and the real state of American politics: