US Politics Thread |OT| THE DARKEST TIMELINE

[Rufus]

Too long we've labored under the notion that AIDS is a "gay disease", we need to teach people that slutty girls that take it up the butt are also at risk.

Whatch this lead to more teenage pregnancies.

[Kara]

Wonder how many millionaires were packing the seats to see KISS. 

Or how many are packing the seats at Los Angeles KISS games.

Yes, LA's Arena Football League team is named for KISS and owned/operated by old Gene.

[Madrun Badrun]

http://i.imgur.com/tySc42r.png

[Kara]

http://i.imgur.com/tySc42r.png

Free and fair elections brehs.

[benjipwns]

http://i.imgur.com/tySc42r.png

These are some of my old favorites, all gone now except this first one:


Allen West's old district:





After 2000:

After 2010:


After 2000:

And then when they redistricted it in 2010:

[Phoenix Dark]

Fox News annihilating Perry's border patrol nonsense
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/07/13/rick-perry-deporting-refugee-kids-as-quickly-as-possible-is-the-most-humanitarian-thing/

How can you argue illegal immigrants are lawless people while simultaneously arguing they'll be convinced by national guard troops (who can't arrest or shoot at them!) to not enter the country? They've already traveled this far, why the fuck would they turn around due to seeing weapon-less "guards" in their way? And besides, 1000 troops isn't even enough to block the whole fucking border. It's an impossible goal.

[Himu]

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jul/14/gop-self-destruction-millennials-conservatives-backlash

[Brehvolution]

If only the GOP felt as passionate about real kids as they do zygotes. This migrant child situation is a slap in the face to pro-lifers. Here's a bunch of unwanted kids... oh, you don't want them either?

[Phoenix Dark]

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jul/14/gop-self-destruction-millennials-conservatives-backlash

bububu Stacy Dash said millennials are trending conservative

[Phoenix Dark]

 

[Dickie Dee]

[Human Snorenado]

[benjipwns]

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/07/14/whs_earnest_obama_absolutely_the_most_transparent_president_in_history.html

I was trying to think if I could do this job if I thought of it like one big troll opportunity, but the press is all in on it so it's really only like second or third hand trolling.

[ZephyrFate]

Archie Comics is set to kill off the main character Archie, who takes a bullet for his gay friend as both a message for stricter gun laws & that gayness is good & worth defending.

I cannot wait for the political firestorm.

[HyperZoneWasAwesome]

yeah, Archie comics doing that is real controversial.

shit. I mean, what's next?  Is Glee going to have a pro-gay rights episode?

[Great Rumbler]

I cannot wait for the political firestorm.

Wouldn't people have to know that Archie is still even a thing in order for this to be controversial?

[Oblivion]

A majority of Americans view House Speaker John Boehner’s (R-Ohio) lawsuit over President Obama’s delayed implementation of ObamaCare’s employer mandate as a “political stunt,” according to a new poll released Monday.

The survey, commissioned by liberal advocacy group Americans United for Change, found that 51 percent of voters don’t believe the lawsuit is legitimate, versus just 41 percent who do.

Moreover, 56 percent say the lawsuit is wasteful spending, with just 36 percent saying it is a good use of taxpayer dollars.

....

The survey found that a plurality of Americans — 46 percent — say the suit makes them less likely to vote for Republicans in the upcoming midterm elections. By contrast, three in 10 say the suit makes them more likely to vote for the GOP.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/07/15/1314106/-Poll-Boehner-s-pre-impeachment-lawsuit-is-backfiring

lol, good job Boner.

[Phoenix Dark]

I'd be far more interested in seeing what independents have to say, given the natural polarization that occurs between dem and rep responders.

[ZephyrFate]

I cannot wait for the political firestorm.

Wouldn't people have to know that Archie is still even a thing in order for this to be controversial?

Archie comics still regularly outsells Marvel + DC combined.

[Phoenix Dark]

I cannot wait for the political firestorm.

Wouldn't people have to know that Archie is still even a thing in order for this to be controversial?

Archie comics still regularly outsells Marvel + DC combined.

no fucking way. really?

[ZephyrFate]

His adventures may be mostly bland -- Life With Archie being an exception, as that was the series they took Archie in different places, like marrying either Betty or Veronica, becoming a superhero, and now... well, now he's going to get shot defending his gay best friend (in that particular universe canon).

Never underestimate the power of being available in every supermarket and also, mostly, being inoffensive and bland about life.  He's a comics icon for a reason.

[Dickie Dee]

I cannot wait for the political firestorm.

Wouldn't people have to know that Archie is still even a thing in order for this to be controversial?

Archie comics still regularly outsells Marvel + DC combined.

Comics-bore will have to chime in, but I'm pretty sure that's not true.

[Phoenix Dark]

Crossing my fingers that we get Halbig v Burwell tomorrow. I haven't been this anxious about a case since 2012.

meh. I can't see it going against the admin. But if it does they'll just call for a vote from the full court, which will rule in the law's favor.

And if it heads back to the SC I don't see Roberts shitcanning it over a typo.

[Phoenix Dark]

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/--100540

[Joe Molotov]

 

[Oblivion]

[Great Rumbler]

 

[Dickie Dee]

 

[DCharlieJP]

They weren't migrant children ... but trickle down sad, just like Reagan promised!

[benjipwns]

The video of the actual event is pretty great too, how everyone goes running when a bus is sighted:
http://www.azcentral.com/story/brahm-resnik/2014/07/15/arizona-politician-mistakes-campers-for-migrant-children/12701279/

[benjipwns]

http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/gop-congressman-kids-at-border-gang-members-from-culture-of

A Florida Republican congressman called undocumented immigrant children at the border not children at all but gang-affiliated persons from a culture of thievery, murder, and violence.

“A lot of these children … quote-unquote … ya know, the first caller mentioned it, ya know, they’re gang members. They’re gang affiliated,” Florida Republican Rep. Rich Nugent said on WOCA radio Monday.

Nugent added that the culture the children were coming from was one of violence and there would be a complications in bringing the children into American culture.

“Listen, if you’re 14, 15, 16, 17 years old, and you’re coming from a country that’s gang-infested — particularly with MS-13 types, that is the most aggressive of all the street gangs — when you have those types coming across the border, they’re not children at that point. These kids have been brought up in a culture of thievery. A culture of murder, of rape. And now we are going to infuse them into the American culture. It’s just ludicrous.”

[benjipwns]

Sherrod in the first 45 seconds of an earlier episode wins:

[Kara]

(Image removed from quote.)

Reality check spike.

[benjipwns]

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/382911/former-border-patrol-deputy-chief-all-good-was-done-after-911-now-has-been-reversed

Former national deputy chief of the U.S. Border Patrol Ronald Colburn tells National Review Online that the Obama administration has undone all of the progress made at America’s southern border since 9/11.

“We’re back to a pre-9/11 situation basically, and this administration did that in the past five years,” he says. “All of the good that was done after 9/11 up to now has been reversed singlehandedly.”

Colburn, who spent more than 30 years working for U.S. Customs and Border Protection, says the resulting national-security risk has to do with the “clutter” of people at the border. He says all of the gains made since 9/11 came as a result of reducing the number of people crossing the border. The Border Patrol’s task is to sort through the haystack of people as they come across, he says. “What this situation on the border is doing is growing the haystack, is adding clutter, so that those dangerous needles get through because we’re tied up capturing, instead, juvenile children from Guatemala and El Salvador,” he says. “When you see the cartels — the Zetas and MS-13 and the Gulf Cartel — laughing about this on the Internet, you know what’s behind it.”

Colburn says the “gangsters down south” enjoy social media, taking selfies, and talking about one another online. Border Patrol officials monitor the cartels’ online communications along with officials from the Department of Defense and intelligence community, he says.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/07/16/ralph_peters_obama_is_by_far_the_worst_foreign_policy_and_security_president_ever.html

RALPH PETERS: You often hear people say, 'Obama is the worst president ever.' And it sounds like hyperbole. But in the foreign policy and security sphere, without a doubt, Obama is by far the worst foreign policy and security president we have ever had, pervasive extensive failures of practically every continent, at the same time we have this shameless self-congratulations from the White House. You really have to go to the roots of this: Obama came to office in early 2009, really prejudiced against America. In foreign policy, and the West, and certainly Israel, as the problem, and certainly the cause of the problems. And Islamic extremism, and Russian intransigence, as effects. But the world is more complicated than that. And I will tell you, America has not been this weak in my lifetime. Even Jimmy Carter looks relatively strong by comparison.

...

You look at the litany of Obama’s disastrous failures. Russia: hey, when’s the last time you heard anybody talk about Putin giving back Ukraine? We had that catastrophic nuclear deal, where we gave away important duel-use systems and Russians gave up junkets going to the stockpile. Then, you have Iran, Iran nukes, they’re playing us like a violin, Iraq, the rise of a caliphate state, a terrorist state. Obviously, Syria, almost 180,000 dead, although nobody knows how many for sure. The reaction in Eqypt, the mess in Libya, you’ve got Boko Haram in Nigeria, you’ve got a mess in Somalia, South Sudan, tragedies nobody even hears about. I mean the list goes on and on.

EVERYWHERE CRISIS, THANKS OBAMA

[Brehvolution]

 

[benjipwns]

Clearly all the world's problems are due to our government's failures.

No, Obama's. If we had our government back we wouldn't have to suffer from his failures.

[Joe Molotov]

At least Bush kept us safe (except for that one time).

[Kara]

At least Bush kept us safe (except for that one time).

Yeah, but did he give a stand down order that day?

[Phoenix Dark]

That mindset is amazing. World turmoil doesn't mean the US isn't leading. We shouldn't be involved in every fucking foreign affair.

BTW the last year or two has really shown that the mainstream GOP's libertarian flirting was simply bullshit. They're still neocons and hardcore interventionists, especially when the US isn't involved in something; flip flops are certain when the Obama administration does actually stir (see: Libya, John McCain). All that Ron Paul talk was was talk. It'll be very interesting to see where the base's views reside during debates. Rand Paul has been relatively consistent in his anti-intervention views whereas the current darling Rick Perry wants us to re-invade Iraq.

[Kara]

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/07/10/first-person-to-legally-purchase-pot-in-wa-fired-after-being-seen-on-local-news-buying-it/

The first person to legally purchase marijuana in the state of Washington was fired from his job as a security worker after he was spotted on television making the purchase.

At 2 p.m. on Tuesday, Mike Boyer was the first person in the door of the Spokane Green Leaf marijuana dispensary. He was captured on video by KXLY yelling, “Go Washington!” as he legally purchased four grams of Sour Kush.

America stands for freedom
but if you think you're free
try using marijuana
purchased from a legal dispensary

[Great Rumbler]

Wasn't that guy quickly rehired because of the backlash caused by his firing?

[Kara]

Wasn't that guy quickly rehired because of the backlash caused by his firing?

Maybe?

http://blogs.seattletimes.com/pot/2014/07/10/was-mike-boyer-really-fired-for-buying-weed-in-spokane/

[Boogie]

Wasn't that guy quickly rehired because of the backlash caused by his firing?

Maybe?

http://blogs.seattletimes.com/pot/2014/07/10/was-mike-boyer-really-fired-for-buying-weed-in-spokane/

That last paragraph and a half makes me go "hmmmmm".

[Kara]

Oh yeah, definitely.

[helios]

Rich people vote in their interests. Why not the poor?

[Kara]

Rich people vote in their interests. Why not the poor?

Moving read.

[tiesto]

His adventures may be mostly bland -- Life With Archie being an exception, as that was the series they took Archie in different places, like marrying either Betty or Veronica, becoming a superhero, and now... well, now he's going to get shot defending his gay best friend (in that particular universe canon).

Never underestimate the power of being available in every supermarket and also, mostly, being inoffensive and bland about life.  He's a comics icon for a reason.

My friend writes for Archie Comics, he gave me a free copy of this. Threw in a lot of retro game references too while he wrote it:

[ZephyrFate]

I cannot wait for the political firestorm.

Wouldn't people have to know that Archie is still even a thing in order for this to be controversial?

Archie comics still regularly outsells Marvel + DC combined.

Comics-bore will have to chime in, but I'm pretty sure that's not true.

no, this is absolutely true, at least as far as physical sales go.  and they're even made on a lower budget.  marvel and dc's books sell like shit.

The fact that Archie sales have been on a decline and still outselling Marvel + DC shows the sordid state of actual comic book sales nowadays.

[Kara]

Saw some article on Slate I think it was about the Postal Service offering simple banking as a way of making it profitable again. Has this actually been discussed in a serious way, or is it just sort-of progressive daydreaming? Because it would be fantastic if USPS started offering low cost simple banking. Rural and urban communities alike are underserved and the USPS could always use more scratch.

One of the EAs I work for is the accounting equivalent of a public defender, which means the employees of their clients aren't exactly Rich Uncle Pennybags, and it always guts me when I look through their clients' records and see how many people have to use check cashing in 2014.

[Brehvolution]

Banks don't want  another competitor. banks rule the land. therefore, it won't happen unless they get a share of the largess tax free.

[Human Snorenado]

The post office offered a savings program for over 50 years, but discontinued it in 1967, back when, you know, people had decent paying jobs and didn't find themselves shut out of the system. It makes a fuck ton of practical sense, but of course we can't have anything nice because our President is a Gay Kenyan Muslim Socialist Communist Homobortionist that hates freedom. Or something.

[Joe Molotov]

The post office offered a savings program for over 50 years, but discontinued it in 1967, back when, you know, people had decent paying jobs and didn't find themselves shut out of the system. It makes a fuck ton of practical sense, but of course we can't have anything nice because our President is a Gay Kenyan Muslim Socialist Communist Homobortionist that hates freedom. Or something.

Poor people just waiting for Uncle Sugar to give them a handout of affordable banking services.

[Great Rumbler]

Now it'll be easier than ever for strapping young bucks to get their lobster.

[Rufus]

The post office offered a savings program for over 50 years, but discontinued it in 1967, back when, you know, people had decent paying jobs and didn't find themselves shut out of the system. It makes a fuck ton of practical sense, but of course we can't have anything nice because our President is a Gay Kenyan Muslim Socialist Communist Homobortionist that hates freedom. Or something.

Germany learned the lesson and just turned that side of the postal service into a bank when it was privatized.

[Dickie Dee]

Some senior Republicans are warning that the party cannot rebuild its reputation with Hispanics if it is drawn into another emotional fight over cracking down on migrants — especially when so many are young children who are escaping extreme poverty and violence. But pleas for compassion and even modest proposals for change are dividing the party, and setting off intense resistance among conservative Republicans who have resisted a broader overhaul of immigration.

Gestures of sympathy, like a trip to the border by Glenn Beck, the conservative radio and television personality who has raised more than $2 million to buy teddy bears, shoes and food for migrant children, were met with scorn and derision. Some anti-immigrant activists responded to news that the government was buying new clothing for the detainees by organizing a campaign to mail them dirty underwear.

 

[Great Rumbler]

Care more about newly-fertilized eggs, corporations, and protecting greenhouse gases than actual human beings, brehs.

[CatsCatsCats]

No, seriously though, what kind of human being knows what these children have been through and does shit like that? Fuck

[Great Rumbler]

This is what happens when you build your party platform around catering to racists.

[Kara]

The post office offered a savings program for over 50 years, but discontinued it in 1967, back when, you know, people had decent paying jobs and didn't find themselves shut out of the system. It makes a fuck ton of practical sense, but of course we can't have anything nice because our President is a Gay Kenyan Muslim Socialist Communist Homobortionist that hates freedom. Or something.

I didn't know this, thanks for filling me in.

[AdmiralViscen]

They are all racist