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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #5940 on: July 19, 2014, 11:43:45 PM »
Despite espousing a belief in competition, some Americans don't actually want to compete for anything, or keep competing to maintain their lifestyle. Immigrants are a visible reminder that they're bought off, but not really bought off.

e: As a historical example, the Asiatic Exclusion League was founded by union workers.

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #5941 on: July 20, 2014, 12:26:22 AM »
Immigrants are just easier to make an other because well, there's all sorts of ways to set them aside that's a lot easier than neighbors. Like the fact that they're born in other countries for one. It's why you want to grab a bear with George W. Bush but want to draw Hitler mustaches on Barack Obama. One was born here and the other wasn't.

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #5942 on: July 20, 2014, 12:36:36 AM »
It's why you want to grab a bear with George W. Bush

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #5943 on: July 20, 2014, 12:39:54 AM »
Do you think these racist terrible americans would feel better if all these immigrants changed their names to something more american like John Miracle Whip Trumpington?

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #5944 on: July 20, 2014, 01:18:20 AM »
They'll feel better when the immigrant children's children identify as white in 30 years

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #5945 on: July 20, 2014, 01:27:11 AM »
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #5946 on: July 20, 2014, 01:58:30 AM »
Do you think these racist terrible americans would feel better if all these immigrants changed their names to something more american like John Miracle Whip Trumpington?
Sure as shit would be better for those who can get away with it, as sad as it is. That's what "integration" often means. In Japan that's part of the naturalization process. You have to take a Japanese name.
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #5947 on: July 20, 2014, 02:23:01 AM »
"Americanization" of names often came about out of bureaucratic laziness.  :american

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #5948 on: July 20, 2014, 02:33:32 AM »
Do you think these racist terrible americans would feel better if all these immigrants changed their names to something more american like John Miracle Whip Trumpington?

I still have to hear about "Jew landlords" in Los Angeles, so no.

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« Reply #5949 on: July 20, 2014, 05:17:30 AM »
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« Reply #5950 on: July 20, 2014, 11:00:25 PM »
Do you think these racist terrible americans would feel better if all these immigrants changed their names to something more american like John Miracle Whip Trumpington?

I still have to hear about "Jew landlords" in Los Angeles, so no.

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #5951 on: July 21, 2014, 03:49:00 PM »
http://www.mediaite.com/online/creationist-ken-ham-aliens-will-go-to-hell-so-really-why-fund-nasa/
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“NASA is Pointless, Declares Creationist” may be a rather obvious headline, but Ken Ham took it one step further and declared why NASA is pointless: because they’re searching for extraterrestrial life, and according to the Bible, aliens are going to go to hell anyways, so why even bother?

“Jesus did not become the ‘GodKlingon’ or the ‘GodMartian’!” he declared in a Sunday column on his website, Answering Genesis. “Only descendants of Adam can be saved.”

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« Reply #5952 on: July 21, 2014, 04:09:30 PM »
 :badass
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #5953 on: July 21, 2014, 07:17:32 PM »
http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2014/07/21/snowden-nsa-sexting/12937507/

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Former National Security Agency contractor Edward Snowden says the analysts who monitored the texts and e-mails of millions of Americans would sometimes share intercepted nude photos and sex texts with colleagues.

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #5954 on: July 21, 2014, 07:42:52 PM »


Seems like a week doesn't go buy without this show doing something awesome. Impressive.
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« Reply #5955 on: July 21, 2014, 07:49:09 PM »
Being weekly instead of daily really helps.

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #5956 on: July 21, 2014, 07:58:53 PM »
Private prisons are basically everything that Republican accuse Democrats of doing with the government.
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« Reply #5957 on: July 21, 2014, 10:38:10 PM »


Seems like a week doesn't go buy without this show doing something awesome. Impressive.
I would have watched this show if he hadn't shat all over Oregon, which is actually a pretty great state outside of the website debacle.

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #5958 on: July 21, 2014, 10:41:29 PM »
but oregon has portland tho
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #5960 on: July 22, 2014, 12:46:16 AM »
... a great reason that Oregon is awesome, yeah.

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #5961 on: July 22, 2014, 01:01:47 AM »


Seems like a week doesn't go buy without this show doing something awesome. Impressive.

That bit with the CCA investment circular... I read too much shit like that.

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #5962 on: July 22, 2014, 04:49:44 AM »
Being weekly instead of daily really helps.

Doesn't seem to help Bill Maher very much, tho.

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #5963 on: July 22, 2014, 09:07:32 AM »
John Oliver has been killing it every week.
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #5964 on: July 22, 2014, 11:14:45 AM »
Federal appeals court struck down the subsidies in half the states (2-1 ruling); it will now be voted on by the full court, which is controlled by democrats.

Given Roberts' history of ruling in favor of corporations, I'm not worried about the Supreme Court settling this nonsense in a year or two.
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #5965 on: July 22, 2014, 11:28:11 AM »
Being weekly instead of daily really helps.

Doesn't seem to help Bill Maher very much, tho.
Has Bill Maher ever been funny though?  Watching him is like watching John Stossel, you just kind of want to punch the guy.

"The Liberal John Stossel" sounds about right for Bill Maher
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #5966 on: July 22, 2014, 12:29:32 PM »
Why can't we just be ruled by AI?

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #5967 on: July 22, 2014, 12:48:50 PM »
Why can't we just be ruled by AI?

Well we all know what ending you picked in Deus Ex now.

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« Reply #5968 on: July 22, 2014, 02:15:42 PM »


:what

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« Reply #5969 on: July 22, 2014, 04:12:10 PM »
I keep sing and hearing comments about this shit from people around me and I REALLY, REALLY want to believe they're not bad people and they just lack perspective but fuck it's difficult.  I'm always amazed how some people can just be so ugly to one another. 

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« Reply #5970 on: July 22, 2014, 06:09:10 PM »
Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed, to me:
I put them in cells and close the door

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #5971 on: July 22, 2014, 06:35:47 PM »
I wouldn't take my pet to a kennel if it looked like that, and they are putting human beings in them?  :-\
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #5973 on: July 22, 2014, 06:52:01 PM »
The United States has a gross domestic product of 17.5 trillion dollars but the Red Cross has to provide aid to immigrants detained by law enforcement. :neogaf

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« Reply #5974 on: July 22, 2014, 06:58:30 PM »
We need that money for free Americans  :american *

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #5975 on: July 22, 2014, 06:59:20 PM »
The United States has a gross domestic product of 17.5 trillion dollars but the Red Cross has to provide aid to immigrants detained by law enforcement. :neogaf

At least when Doctors Without Borders show up, they'll be able to get to running water. (Detroit not included)
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« Reply #5976 on: July 22, 2014, 07:00:22 PM »
They're essentially refugees, given the shit they've run from. I wonder how it'll play out, especially with this in the pipes:
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Regardless of how Congress handles his request for more border resources, President Obama is moving toward a historic—and explosive—executive order that will provide legal status to a significant number of the estimated 11.7 million undocumented immigrants in the U.S. One senior White House official says that while "what's happening at the border will provide atmospherics for the [president's] decision," it won't stop him from acting on the undocumented—probably before the midterm elections. The resulting collision over Obama's expected action could lastingly define both the Democratic and Republican parties for the burgeoning Hispanic population.
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The president can't provide them citizenship without action by Congress. But using the same theory of "deferred action" that he employed in 2012 for children brought to the U.S. illegally by their parents, he could apply prosecutorial discretion to allow some groups of the undocumented (such as adults here illegally with children who are U.S. citizens) to obtain work permits and function openly. Though the administration is still debating the reach of Obama's authority, some top immigration advocates hope he could legalize up to half of the undocumented population.
http://www.nationaljournal.com/political-connections/obama-s-immigration-decisions-will-shape-both-parties-for-years-20140718

sounds like a good way to destroy democrats this November lol. Good luck.

I can imagine impeachment hearings started over this, which would be fun.
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« Reply #5977 on: July 22, 2014, 08:18:01 PM »
I keep sing and hearing comments about this shit from people around me and I REALLY, REALLY want to believe they're not bad people and they just lack perspective but fuck it's difficult.  I'm always amazed how some people can just be so ugly to one another.

I'd like to believe that the people who are jubilant about Halbig v Burwell aren't actually evil sociopaths, but a lot of the comments I've seen make me doubt that.

Why do you hate freedom, Shinobi?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelcannon/2014/07/21/halbig-v-burwell-would-free-more-than-57-million-americans-from-the-acas-individual-employer-mandates/
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« Reply #5978 on: July 22, 2014, 08:40:51 PM »
They're essentially refugees, given the shit they've run from. I wonder how it'll play out, especially with this in the pipes:
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Regardless of how Congress handles his request for more border resources, President Obama is moving toward a historic—and explosive—executive order that will provide legal status to a significant number of the estimated 11.7 million undocumented immigrants in the U.S. One senior White House official says that while "what's happening at the border will provide atmospherics for the [president's] decision," it won't stop him from acting on the undocumented—probably before the midterm elections. The resulting collision over Obama's expected action could lastingly define both the Democratic and Republican parties for the burgeoning Hispanic population.
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The president can't provide them citizenship without action by Congress. But using the same theory of "deferred action" that he employed in 2012 for children brought to the U.S. illegally by their parents, he could apply prosecutorial discretion to allow some groups of the undocumented (such as adults here illegally with children who are U.S. citizens) to obtain work permits and function openly. Though the administration is still debating the reach of Obama's authority, some top immigration advocates hope he could legalize up to half of the undocumented population.
http://www.nationaljournal.com/political-connections/obama-s-immigration-decisions-will-shape-both-parties-for-years-20140718

sounds like a good way to destroy democrats this November lol. Good luck.

I can imagine impeachment hearings started over this, which would be fun.
I'd love this just to see the hysterics of the right.

I keep sing and hearing comments about this shit from people around me and I REALLY, REALLY want to believe they're not bad people and they just lack perspective but fuck it's difficult.  I'm always amazed how some people can just be so ugly to one another.

I'd like to believe that the people who are jubilant about Halbig v Burwell aren't actually evil sociopaths, but a lot of the comments I've seen make me doubt that.
Touché.

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« Reply #5979 on: July 22, 2014, 10:44:44 PM »

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« Reply #5980 on: July 22, 2014, 11:18:55 PM »
Apparently he doesn't need his intellectual-hipster glasses when he's huntin' for ferriners. Just a backwards cap will do fine, thanks.
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« Reply #5981 on: July 22, 2014, 11:28:54 PM »
I keep sing and hearing comments about this shit from people around me and I REALLY, REALLY want to believe they're not bad people and they just lack perspective but fuck it's difficult.  I'm always amazed how some people can just be so ugly to one another.

I'd like to believe that the people who are jubilant about Halbig v Burwell aren't actually evil sociopaths, but a lot of the comments I've seen make me doubt that.

Why do you hate freedom, Shinobi?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelcannon/2014/07/21/halbig-v-burwell-would-free-more-than-57-million-americans-from-the-acas-individual-employer-mandates/

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these reports and the ensuing media coverage uniformly neglect to mention that a victory for the Halbig plaintiffs would free not only those plaintiffs but tens of millions of Americans from the PPACA’s individual and employer mandates. Indeed, Halbig would free from potential illegal taxation more than ten times as many people as lose an illegal subsidy.

Oh, well in that case...

Also lol @ the pedantic "well technically their premiums won't rise, they'll just be paying the actual cost of their premium" spiel.

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #5982 on: July 22, 2014, 11:47:03 PM »
Request title change to "Our long national nightmare of being able to buy health insurance is over" plz
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« Reply #5983 on: July 23, 2014, 12:02:43 AM »
Request title change to "Our long national nightmare of being able to buy health insurance is over" plz

I've still got insurance, I'm not sure what everyone else's problem is. (which also could have been the name of that article)

BUT, but, but just think of the moral hazard it presents for lesser people if they were allowed to live their lives however they want without fear of negative health repercussions from their lifestyle choices. *wrings hands*
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« Reply #5984 on: July 23, 2014, 01:15:10 PM »
The puzzling thing is the celebratory way the news was hailed on the far right, as if this is the end of the issue. I can't tell if it's just stupidity or table dressing for more "Obama is ignoring the law!" nonsense when the subsidies continue to flow. Nevermind that the court will rule in the subsidies favor, and it might even be a 9-2 decision. I'm assuming this decision will be referenced for years, oblivious to the fact that the actual court ruled in favor of the law.

I don't see it making it to the Supreme Court until a couple appeals court rules in the plaintiff's favor. Which will be hard given that the 4th circuit ruled in the law's favor, and the DC circuit court will once the full court votes. BTW the media's coverage of this has been atrocious, and highlights the inability to discuss anything with substance or nuance.
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« Reply #5985 on: July 23, 2014, 03:46:12 PM »
It doesn't shock or offend me at this point. These are people who don't give a shit about anything that gets in the way of their ideaological goals. They would kick millions off affordable healthcare with no backup plan or replacement legislation, just to preserve the status quo.

I take solace in the fact that the ACA isn't going anywhere, and by the time we get to 2016 it'll have 30 million people under it. That won't stop Cruz from demanding repeal but the republicans who fight over the nomination will have to deal with the new reality.

We won't see a repeat of 2007 where 2-3 dem candidates had extensive healthcare plans btw. The GOP doesn't care about legislation. They'll either argue to make the ACA better or repeal it fully.
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« Reply #5986 on: July 23, 2014, 05:38:17 PM »
speaking of which
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New England Journal Of Medicine: 10.3 Million Uninsured Covered Under Obamacare

More than 10 million uninsured adults obtained health coverage during Obamacare's first open enrollment period, according to a study published on Wednesday by the New England Journal of Medicine.

The study, which included researchers from Harvard University and the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, found that the number of uninsured Americans had dropped by 5.2 percentage points by the second quarter of 2014, which corresponds with 10.3 million adults gaining coverage.

The findings track with previous estimates. They also gain found a significant divergence between states that expanded Medicaid under the law and those that did not. The former group's uninsured rate fell by 6 percentage points among the expansion population; the latter's by 3.1 percentage points.

The study's methodology, which can be read in full here, covered survey data from 420,000 adults from January 2012 to June 2014.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/nejm-10-million-uninsured-obamacare
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« Reply #5988 on: July 23, 2014, 11:20:43 PM »
Defend 2-hour executions but condemn women for using the morning after pill, brehs.
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« Reply #5989 on: July 23, 2014, 11:35:21 PM »
Defend 2-hour executions but condemn women for using the morning after pill, brehs.
Typical liberal, can't tell the difference between the same day and the next day.


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« Reply #5991 on: July 24, 2014, 12:26:04 AM »
Yeah, I don't get that either. A bullet to the back of the head is instant death and pretty much guarenteed. If you insist on the death penalty, then there are a lot of quick sure ways to end someone's life that don't depend on some mysterious concoction.
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #5992 on: July 24, 2014, 01:50:20 AM »
I'm thinking: what was so wrong with the guillotine?

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« Reply #5993 on: July 24, 2014, 01:52:35 AM »
Families probably don't want the head rolling around in the casket. I'm telling you, nitro is the way to go.

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« Reply #5994 on: July 24, 2014, 02:03:37 AM »
What if, like, they just threw the person into a live volcano? Don't even gotta have a funeral or anything doing if that way, very clean and efficient.
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« Reply #5995 on: July 24, 2014, 02:10:06 AM »
The French kept the guillotine until they eliminated the death penalty apparently. Last used it on somebody in 1977.

Now I'm curious about the roots of its passing and rise of the "humane" death penalty.

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« Reply #5996 on: July 24, 2014, 02:27:18 AM »
The French kept the guillotine until they eliminated the death penalty apparently. Last used it on somebody in 1977.

Now I'm curious about the roots of its passing and rise of the "humane" death penalty.

IIRC, a capital case lawyer was appointed minister of justice under Mitterrand.

Also abolition was part of the PS' 1,000,000,000 point platform to get Mitterrand elected.

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« Reply #5997 on: July 24, 2014, 02:35:03 AM »
Oh, I meant the passing of the use of the guillotine (and firing squad I suppose) everywhere else, not the abolition of the death penalty.

Just respecting that the French stuck with what they found worked when they had a backlog of state enemies.


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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #5999 on: July 24, 2014, 03:42:53 AM »
Why can't we just be ruled by AI?

Well we all know what ending you picked in Deus Ex now.

That, or s/he enjoys Iain M. Banks novels.