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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6721 on: October 01, 2014, 03:04:18 PM »
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6722 on: October 01, 2014, 03:14:12 PM »
:drudge TERRORIST KILLS TWO COPS AND IS NOW ROAMING THE COUNTRYSIDE IN NORTHEASTERN PENNSYLVANIA :drudge

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Considered "extremely dangerous" and possibly armed with an AK-47, officials were forced to close local schools in fear Frein might attack again. Lots of businesses in the area were ordered to stay dark, and some U.S. mail deliveries were suspended out of fear postmen might be exposed as possible targets for the shooter.

IT'S THE REAL THING GUYS ISIS IS HERE THEY'RE-

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"He made statements about wanting to kill law enforcement officers and to commit mass acts of murder," state police commissioner Frank Noonan warned the public at the time. Another official noted the shooter has a "longstanding grudge against law enforcement and government in general" dating back to at least 2006.

A friend was even more explicit.  "He was obviously a big critic of the federal government," a friend name Jack told CNN. (The friend did not give his last name.) "No indications of really any malice towards law enforcement in particular. Most of his aggression was (toward) the federal government."

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Sorry, guys, false alarm. He's not actually a terrorists after all.

Welcome to shit that was news a about a month ago. Good timing.
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6723 on: October 01, 2014, 05:05:45 PM »
I was making reference to Fox News et al sounding the terrorism chyron over some guy in OKC killing one of his coworkers after he got fired, trying desperately to tie him to ISIS somehow and raising the specter of Islamic terrorism lurking the streets of American cities, but largely ignoring an actual domestic terrorist who killed a cop and is currently roaming the rural countryside of Pennsylvania. Mostly because this guy is a white, anti-fed type of terrorist, and the other guy is a dark-skinned Muslim.
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6724 on: October 01, 2014, 05:53:19 PM »
It's been corroborated by the Washington Post journalist who broke the story about the 2011 story.

Oh it's not that I didn't believe the story, it's that I didn't want to give them clicks. :goty2


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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6726 on: October 01, 2014, 07:00:06 PM »
I was working on a Massachusetts tax return and went to go look up how they differentiate between nonresident and partial year residents and the instructions for those returns were like 35%-40% Romneycare-related.

Use the tax code to administer social services y'all.

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Good thing I deal little with individual income tax returns. :rejoice
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6727 on: October 01, 2014, 08:13:30 PM »
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6728 on: October 01, 2014, 11:17:16 PM »
I remember when EA used a stock photo for Tali. I guess whoever did that is Republican.

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6729 on: October 01, 2014, 11:21:56 PM »
I remember when EA used a stock photo for Tali. I guess whoever did that is Republican.

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6730 on: October 02, 2014, 09:20:11 AM »
I remember when EA used a stock photo for Tali. I guess whoever did that is Republican.

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6731 on: October 02, 2014, 12:55:10 PM »
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As scandal continues to envelop the Secret Service, InsideSources has learned of a security failure leading up to the 2012 election. Multiple sources inside the Romney presidential campaign confirm that a Secret Service agent provided details of President Obama’s schedule several days prior to the President’s campaign stops becoming public.

While sources involved in other presidential campaigns tell InsideSources that Secret Service detail assigned to each campaign will sometimes disclose private and personal information about those they are assigned to protect to opposing campaign staff, this instance in particular is very revealing of failures inside the Secret Service.

In the closing weeks of the 2012 campaign, a Secret Service agent was on the ground in a key swing state to coordinate security ahead of several campaign stops by the President. The agent, who was married, made advances towards a Romney campaign staff member.

InsideSources spoke with two staffers who witnessed the events in question. Each spoke on condition of anonymity and independently confirmed the details.

In one particular incident at a bar in late October 2012, the Secret Service agent, who had a number of drinks during the meeting, unprompted and in an apparent attempt to impress one of the staffers, began providing details of President Obama’s schedule. The information included times and locations of the President’s events in the final days of the election. The President’s campaign would not release these details of the President’s schedule publicly until several days later.


The sources state that the same agent on a separate occasion provided joy rides in a Secret Service vehicle with the lights flashing.


The leaked schedule was later passed on within the campaign. Others inside the campaign recall seeing the schedule, but the source of the information was not revealed. The schedule, therefore, was met only with skepticism. The details of the President’s schedule later proved to be accurate.

Former advisers to the Romney campaign note that the leaked schedule, which was not widely circulated within the campaign, did not impact the campaign’s strategy. It received little attention as the election was days away.

When asked about the recent spate of security issues surrounding the Secret Service, a former member of the Presidential advance team under President Bush said, “Seeing firsthand the considerable threat the President is under and how seriously so many of these agents take their duty, it’s very concerning that there are some who would put the lives of the President and their Secret Service colleagues in peril.  The President isn’t just a person; he’s an institution, a third of our functioning government, and a primary target for any country or group who would seek to do our country harm.”

The Secret Service was unable to provide an immediate response to questions about the incident.

The revelations feed into serious concerns about conduct within the Secret Service. Secret Service Director Julia Pierson resigned today following a series of embarrassments for the agency. In addition to the recent White House fence jumper who made it deep inside the executive mansion, an armed contractor with a criminal record was allowed on an elevator with the President in mid-September. Eleven agents were put on leave in 2012 after allegedly hiring prostitutes in Colombia. Earlier this year, three Secret Service agents were sent home from their presidential detail in the Netherlands following a night of heavy drinking in which one agent was found passed out in a hotel hallway.
http://www.insidesources.com/is-exclusive-secret-service-agent-leaked-presidents-campaign-stops/

A president's schedule isn't supposed to be revealed until after the Secret Service is able to head to the area, set up, and prepare. Back in 2004 John Kerry came to my school, and weeks before the trip was announced we noticed dudes in black suits scouting the area.

It seems pretty clear there's an institutional problem with the Secret Service, beyond the chief. And despite all this news, apparently nothing is being done outside of playing musical chairs with the chief position. It really seems like nothing will be done until someone tries to attack the president...
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6732 on: October 02, 2014, 12:55:56 PM »
News Flash: They don't fucking like the guy.


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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6733 on: October 02, 2014, 01:04:00 PM »
Get drunk and blab like a moron because you dont like your boss because he's black brehs

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He brought it upon himself. Go search for some interviews/stories. He treats them poorly, he talks down to them, and he has ditched them before just to go across the street and eat.

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6734 on: October 02, 2014, 01:12:41 PM »
Get drunk and blab like a moron because you dont like your boss because he's black brehs

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He brought it upon himself. Go search for some interviews/stories. He treats them poorly, he talks down to them, and he has ditched them before just to go across the street and eat.

Not that I believe this bullshit but even if it was the case, it doesn't justify not doing your fucking job. I'm going to say Obama and all recent presidents have treated their Secret Service better than...LBJ. who was a legit asshole. In fact Clinton was an asshole with Secret Service too, for obvious reasons.

There's a former secret service guy running as a tea partier right now, and even he has said Obama treated him and his fellow officers with respect. If you think Obama doesn't give a shit about the people protecting his daughters you're an ideologue, the end.
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6735 on: October 02, 2014, 01:15:06 PM »
Get drunk and blab like a moron because you dont like your boss because he's black brehs

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He brought it upon himself. Go search for some interviews/stories. He treats them poorly, he talks down to them, and he has ditched them before just to go across the street and eat.

Not that I believe this bullshit but even if it was the case, it doesn't justify not doing your fucking job. I'm going to say Obama and all recent presidents have treated their Secret Service better than...LBJ. who was a legit asshole. In fact Clinton was an asshole with Secret Service too, for obvious reasons.

There's a former secret service guy running as a tea partier right now, and even he has said Obama treated him and his fellow officers with respect. If you think Obama doesn't give a shit about the people protecting his daughters you're an ideologue, the end.

He's a adjunct dickhead by nature bro, whether he respects them or not.
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6736 on: October 02, 2014, 01:22:08 PM »
the funny thing is that I know what you're referencing, and it was debunked years ago
http://www.factcheck.org/2011/06/secret-service-tattletales/

No, Obama doesn't "look down on" the military and treat his protection like shit.
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6737 on: October 02, 2014, 01:29:13 PM »
the funny thing is that I know what you're referencing, and it was debunked years ago
http://www.factcheck.org/2011/06/secret-service-tattletales/

No, Obama doesn't "look down on" the military and treat his protection like shit.

Keep believe this guy gives a fuck about you breh, it's cute.

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6738 on: October 02, 2014, 03:15:27 PM »
Saw this on Kaus, it again reminded me of Kara's "guild" from Random Talk Thread:
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Rep.  Kevin Brady has decided to run against Rep. Paul Ryan in the latter’s bid for chairmanship of the Ways & Means Committee. (Ryan currently chairs the Budget Committee but is about to be termed out of that position.) The complaint against Ryan? As WaPo‘s Robert Costa reported, in a tweet more informative than his actual piece:

The backstory: priv some W&M Rs don’t like idea of Ryan toying w/ WH bid as he launches tax overhaul, want chair focus on raising $, cmmte

Brady certainly agrees with the “focus on raising $” part. He says, “The expectations are very high for the next chairman, both on policy and on financial support for others.” In other words, the role of the Republican chair of Ways & Means is to milk money from lobbyists terrified that the committee is rewriting the whole tax code (which touches on the profitability of every business in America) — and then to distribute that money to other Republicans.  It’s almost as if they’d pretend to rewrite the tax code every few years just to scare more protection money contributions out of K St., whether the committee actually reformed anything or not.
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6739 on: October 02, 2014, 04:11:19 PM »
Michael Savage calling him President Obola  :whew

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6740 on: October 02, 2014, 04:19:22 PM »
I wouldn't ever bet that there would be huge changes to the tax code. I'm pretty sure the current tax code is right where the rich want it to be since it hasn't changed much in 40 years.

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6741 on: October 02, 2014, 04:40:10 PM »
I actually have this lying around from an old project (though I had to remake the graph with Excel to post), "Sales" includes tariff revenues. It's % of total (fed/state/local) revenues by source. I was surprised how small of share corporate taxes have been historically.

The big dip in social taxes is the recession + 2% holiday a couple years back.



Before 1890, state data is even more unreliable, and basically the trend you see from the pre-income tax period is it all the way back, 90+% is from sales taxes/tariffs.

EDIT: Here's the % of GDP (remember fed + state + local) with no smoothing:
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6742 on: October 02, 2014, 05:18:31 PM »
Saw this on Kaus, it again reminded me of Kara's "guild" from Random Talk Thread:
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Rep.  Kevin Brady has decided to run against Rep. Paul Ryan in the latter’s bid for chairmanship of the Ways & Means Committee. (Ryan currently chairs the Budget Committee but is about to be termed out of that position.) The complaint against Ryan? As WaPo‘s Robert Costa reported, in a tweet more informative than his actual piece:

The backstory: priv some W&M Rs don’t like idea of Ryan toying w/ WH bid as he launches tax overhaul, want chair focus on raising $, cmmte

Brady certainly agrees with the “focus on raising $” part. He says, “The expectations are very high for the next chairman, both on policy and on financial support for others.” In other words, the role of the Republican chair of Ways & Means is to milk money from lobbyists terrified that the committee is rewriting the whole tax code (which touches on the profitability of every business in America) — and then to distribute that money to other Republicans.  It’s almost as if they’d pretend to rewrite the tax code every few years just to scare more protection money contributions out of K St., whether the committee actually reformed anything or not.
:lol

(If true) I gotta respect hustling of that caliber. :whew

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6743 on: October 02, 2014, 05:46:27 PM »
Discredited by using the wrong My Super Sweet Sixteen clip.


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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6744 on: October 02, 2014, 05:52:21 PM »
The Reagan bit should be no surprise, as libertarians hated Reagan. They just didn't have nearly the voice they do today.

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6745 on: October 02, 2014, 05:58:44 PM »


Reagan annihilates modern Republicans from beyond the grave.

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REASON: Governor Reagan, you have been quoted in the press as saying that you’re doing a lot of speaking now on behalf of the philosophy of conservatism and libertarianism. Is there a difference between the two?

REAGAN: If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism. I think conservatism is really a misnomer just as liberalism is a misnomer for the liberals–if we were back in the days of the Revolution, so-called conservatives today would be the Liberals and the liberals would be the Tories. The basis of conservatism is a desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or more individual freedom and this is a pretty general description also of what libertarianism is.

Now, I can’t say that I will agree with all the things that the present group who call themselves Libertarians in the sense of a party say, because I think that like in any political movement there are shades, and there are libertarians who are almost over at the point of wanting no government at all or anarchy. I believe there are legitimate government functions. There is a legitimate need in an orderly society for some government to maintain freedom or we will have tyranny by individuals. The strongest man on the block will run the neighborhood. We have government to insure that we don’t each one of us have to carry a club to defend ourselves. But again, I stand on my statement that I think that libertarianism and conservatism are travelling the same path.
Also annihilates Libertarian Party.

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6746 on: October 03, 2014, 11:46:05 AM »
And yet the strongest corporation on the block should be trusted and we should all carry guns. Thanks Reagan

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6747 on: October 03, 2014, 01:21:40 PM »
To be fair, Reagan did sign the California gun control act when he was governor.

I think it was cause of black people or something.  :smug

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6748 on: October 03, 2014, 02:18:54 PM »
248k jobs, 5.9% unemployment rate. The economy is far from recovered, participation rate is still low as fuck, wages are stagnant etc etc etc....

...but, can you imagine the parade that would be going on right now if Romney was president and we had the same job growth we've seen all year? The fuckery would be unbearable. We dodged a bullet fellas.
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6749 on: October 03, 2014, 02:54:25 PM »
"Romney Recovery in full effect!"

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6750 on: October 03, 2014, 03:06:30 PM »
To be fair, Reagan did sign the California gun control act when he was governor.

I think it was cause of black people or something.  :smug
Black PANTHERS the same ones who stole the elections for Obama.

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6751 on: October 03, 2014, 06:17:57 PM »
To be fair, Reagan did sign the California gun control act when he was governor.

I think it was cause of black people or something.  :smug
Black PANTHERS the same ones who stole the elections for Obama.

The BPP and NBPP aint the same thing, sunshine :wag
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6752 on: October 04, 2014, 04:25:44 PM »
BREAKING:
http://www.wnd.com/2014/10/klayman-files-for-deportation-of-barack-obama/
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Now Larry Klayman, the former Justice Department lawyer and founder of Judicial Watch and Freedom Watch, is suing to get President Obama deported.

Shipped out. Sent back. Removed.

“In sum, deportation proceedings should be immediately commenced, an investigation undertaken, a full evidentiary hearing held, and Barack Hussein Obama should be removed from the United States,” Klayman writes in his deportation petition.

The petition was sent to Thomas Homan of Enforcement Removal Operations at the Department of Homeland Security, Thomas Winkowksi of Immigration and Customs Enforcement and Sarah Kendall of the Office of Fraud Detection and National Security at DHS.

Klayman explained it is based “on the grounds that he has falsified various birth and other documents with regard to obtaining a U.S. passport and other privileges as an alleged American citizen.”

“It is clear, based on a mountain of evidence as set forth in and attached to the petition, that the president and his agents have falsified documents, such as his birth certificate and Social Security number, to qualify for the privileges of American citizenship such that his citizenship, which is based on false pretenses, must be nullified,” Klayman said.

“As set forth in the petition, this includes but is not limited to the fraudulent production of a computer-generated facsimile of an official state of Hawaiian birth certificate. Even if a legitimate birth certificate exists, Obama’s repeated use of a clearly forged birth certificate is still a crime and in violation of the law,” he said.

“While this deportation proceeding may seem to some to be the work of conservatives who are out to get the president, this is not the case. Barack Obama’s propensity to not tell the truth is now well known, even among his leftist supporters. And, his actions while president [reflects] someone whose actions show that he feels more kinship with his foreign roots and Muslim religious schooling and heritage, than the Judeo-Christian principles upon which this nation was founded.

“I thus urge everyone to read and digest this petition to have him deported and remove him from the United States, before dismissing it,” Klayman said.

The 20-page document points out that his name technically is “Barry Soetoro,” since it was “changed officially in Indonesia and never changed back to his name at birth.”

“The immigration laws of the United States of American are intended in part to ensure that those who become part of the country and particularly those who lead it bear allegiance and loyalty to the United States of American rather than to a foreign country or to interests of other countries generally. It is part of the constitutional design and intention for immigration laws and regulations to regulate those joining the citizenry of the country with the goal of loyalty and allegiance to the country, among other factors,” the petition explains.

“The U.S. Constitution requires that to be eligible to be president (or vice president) a person must be a “natural born citizen” and that all federal elected officials must be citizens,” he wrote.

Then followed a technical description of the problem for Obama;
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Klayman explains Obama “inconsistently used different names within the United States,” and sought a U.S. passport with a “clearly forged birth certificate.”

A list of requests includes testimony, records and evidence on the issues of documentation, immigration law, citizenship requirements, birth certificates and more.

Klayman cited the “exacting, professional and exhaustive investigation” that already has been done on the issue, by a “team of experts” assembled by Sheriff Joe Arpaio in Maricopa County, Arizona, at the request of his constituents.

The investigation has concluded that the birth certificate presented by Obama is a forgery.

The petition notes that even if there exists a Hawaii “birth certificate,” the state had only become a part of the U.S. shortly before, and was working out “procedures to operate as a new state.”

“People assume that the existence of a birth certificate from Hawaii proves a birth in Hawaii, when Hawaii law at the time is explicit that a parent could lawfully request a birth certificate from Hawaii for a child born in a foreign country.”

Klayman’s request alleges document fraud, falsely claiming citizenship and willful misrepresentation.

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6753 on: October 04, 2014, 05:15:59 PM »
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He cites as supporting evidence those facts reported in “Where’s the Birth Certificate?” by Dr. Jerome Corsi, “Where’s the REAL Birth Certificate?” an ebook, and another ebook, “A Question of Eligibility.”

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6755 on: October 04, 2014, 07:28:17 PM »
benji-kun, today I ended up needing to know the dairy delivery exception to statutory employee classification for my exam. :dead

I see big dairy has paid Emperor Obama off handsomely. :obama

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6756 on: October 04, 2014, 07:36:40 PM »
http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/return-gop-hawks_808506.html?page=2#
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In a recent, hour-long interview, Lindsey Graham said if he is reelected to the Senate in November, he will begin exploring a bid for the presidency.

Graham has long been one of the most active and outspoken hawks in Congress. He has been a voluble critic of the Obama administration on a wide variety of national security issues—Guantánamo Bay, Benghazi, Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Russia, Iran, and others. Unlike many of his colleagues, Graham often first seeks to engage the administration privately as it debates policy with the hope that he can help shape the outcome rather than just criticize it after the fact.

But Graham no longer trusts Obama enough to engage him on these matters.

In our interview, Graham repeatedly spoke of the challenges that will face the next president because of the mistakes made under Obama. And he suggested that he might just be the one to fix them.

“If I get through my general election, if nobody steps up in the presidential mix, if nobody’s out there talking​—​me and McCain have been talking​—​I may just jump in to get to make these arguments,” Graham said.

I asked Graham about Rubio. Hasn’t he been making many of the arguments you’d be likely to make? Graham wasn’t impressed. “He’s a good guy, but after doing immigration with him—we don’t need another young guy not quite ready,” said Graham. “He’s no Obama by any means, but he’s so afraid of the right, and I’ve let that go.”

McCain likes what he sees in the emerging GOP field, but acknowledges that he’s told Graham to think about running. “

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6757 on: October 04, 2014, 08:19:20 PM »
I don't think America is ready for President Scarlett O'Hara.
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6758 on: October 04, 2014, 09:16:08 PM »
Sometimes you wonder what compels these people to actually think they have a shot. I mean, in the primary even. Doesn't Graham remember the last three years where he was polling at like 30-40% against "Unnamed Conservative" who had 50-60% until nobody of note showed up to actually challenge him?

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6759 on: October 05, 2014, 12:05:32 AM »
Presidential candidate Lindsay Graham?



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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6760 on: October 05, 2014, 06:42:33 AM »
I hope President Graham deports anti-American scum like this:

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6761 on: October 05, 2014, 02:05:21 PM »
Senate is fucked, government is fucked, WE'RE fucked. Obama is going to (unfairly, IMO) go down in history as one of the worst Presidents ever, and so will Hillary, etc etc and so on until the crazies get another President. All because Democrats are too pusserific to make Republicans wear the crazy label.
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6762 on: October 05, 2014, 02:10:46 PM »
BUT EBOLA YOU GUYS

AND ISIS

BETTER ELECT SOME STRONG REPUBLICAN DADDIES
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6763 on: October 05, 2014, 03:46:04 PM »
Senate is fucked, government is fucked, WE'RE fucked. Obama is going to (unfairly, IMO) go down in history as one of the worst Presidents ever, and so will Hillary, etc etc and so on until the crazies get another President. All because Democrats are too pusserific to make Republicans wear the crazy label.

How can they make them wear the label when swathes of the voting population are just as, if not more, crazy?

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6764 on: October 05, 2014, 04:33:46 PM »
27% of the population is irredeemably crazy. You have about another 20 something % that are easily swayed by stupidity. You just gotta go out there and make those 20% uncomfortable to stand next to the assholes.

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6765 on: October 05, 2014, 04:42:28 PM »
You just gotta go out there and make those 20% uncomfortable to stand next to the assholes.
They'll just invent a hashtag and proudly stand next to them.

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6766 on: October 05, 2014, 04:48:43 PM »
While I don't doubt the rigorous statistical models employed for Bore posts, I need to see the receipts how those figures are apportioned across the states. The U.S.'s political system is fuckstupid in how it rewards remote outposts of civilization with political (over)representation.

e: Thanks for that BTW, colonial Virginia.

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6767 on: October 05, 2014, 07:30:48 PM »
e: Thanks for that BTW, colonial Virginia.
Your problems with William Paterson of New Jersey buddy.

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6768 on: October 05, 2014, 07:43:04 PM »
Why would I blame someone for crafting the antithesis to the thesis (the Virginia Plan) so that we could reach sweet synthesis? :aah

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6769 on: October 05, 2014, 07:49:57 PM »
Need to see if BA has anything on the construction of the Constitution.

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6770 on: October 05, 2014, 08:51:48 PM »
the real question: where's Mandark.
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6771 on: October 05, 2014, 08:59:15 PM »
we're friends on facebook but I forgot his name
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6772 on: October 05, 2014, 09:05:36 PM »
Need to see if BA has anything on the construction of the Constitution.

http://www.revcom.us/a/v19/930-39/939/constit.htm
http://www.revcom.us/a/037/avakian-montesquieu-slavery.htm

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6773 on: October 05, 2014, 09:23:49 PM »
That's some pretty weaksauce stuff, I'm starting to have doubts about dedicating my entire existence to BA.

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6774 on: October 05, 2014, 11:21:35 PM »
post people's full names on forums brehs...

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6775 on: October 05, 2014, 11:42:48 PM »
John Oliver apparently did this week on asset forfeiture  :rejoice

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6776 on: October 06, 2014, 01:05:06 AM »
It's one of the few libertarian hateboner things that doesn't get at least one fairly big story a year in a more mainstream source like say The Atlantic running an article or whatever. Eminent Domain used to be the same way. Most other stuff like police abuse, drug war shit, prison, standard government fuckups, etc. will get a few good articles a year.

I think the closest was a couple years back when one state was trying to take away these peoples motel because guests were selling drugs inside the rooms.

I know I say it a lot but I love telling people how the government charges hundreds or thousands of inanimate objects with crimes every year.

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6777 on: October 06, 2014, 01:08:41 AM »
That motel case: https://www.ij.org/massachusetts-civil-forfeiture

Balko story from 2010 on forfeiture in general: http://reason.com/archives/2010/01/26/the-forfeiture-racket

The one Frontline story I remember: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/drugs/special/forfeiture.html

Some of my can't hate too hard on STATIST THUG Rand Paul reasons: http://www.paul.senate.gov/?p=press_release&id=1204

http://media.ca8.uscourts.gov/opndir/06/08/053295P.pdf
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6778 on: October 06, 2014, 01:26:19 AM »
Sometimes you wonder what compels these people to actually think they have a shot. I mean, in the primary even. Doesn't Graham remember the last three years where he was polling at like 30-40% against "Unnamed Conservative" who had 50-60% until nobody of note showed up to actually challenge him?

It's the Carter effect. An unlikely candidate just there at the right time and place. Many think the same thing could happen if they'd just try.

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6779 on: October 06, 2014, 01:29:26 AM »