US Politics Thread |OT| THE DARKEST TIMELINE

[Phoenix Dark]

https://twitter.com/amandacarpenter/status/543949210182488064


edit: she deleted it lol. here

[Joe Molotov]

Cromnibus is a pretty awesome word, though.

[Oblivion]

That idiot Ted Cruz just allowed Obama to get 11 more federal judges on the bench than he would have gotten otherwise.

[Great Rumbler]

Host Chuck Todd asked Cheney to respond to the Senate Intelligence Committee report's account that one detainee was "chained to the wall of a cell, doused with water, froze to death in CIA custody."

"And it turned out it was a case of mistaken identity," Todd said.

"Right," Cheney responded. "But the problem I have was with all of the folks that we did release that end up back on the battlefield."

"I’m more concerned with bad guys who got out and released than I am with a few that in fact were innocent," he continued.

Todd pressed Cheney, asking if he was okay with the fact that about 25 percent of the detainees interrogated were actually innocent.

"I have no problem as long as we achieve our objective. And our objective is to get the guys who did 9/11 and it is to avoid another attack against the United States," Cheney responded.

[Rufus]

What a callous bastard.

[Brehvolution]

Looks like A_I_A's cable box got pinged:

[Brehvolution]

Be a despotic government and defend it, brehs.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

Looks like A_I_A's cable box got pinged:

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First off

 

Secondly. I don't watch Fox or CNN, I watch C-Span. Can't stand either side's grandstanding.

[Eric P]

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2014/12/16/?entry=7098&smid=nytpolitics&_r=0

 Jeb Bush to ‘Actively Explore’ a 2016 Run for President

Jeb Bush, the former governor of Florida, announced on Twitter and Facebook that he has “decided to actively explore the possibility of running for President of the United States.”

Mr. Bush has long been rumored as a potential Republican presidential candidate in 2016, and said in early December that he would be making a decision “in short order” on whether or not he would run.

The announcement by Mr. Bush does not say he has formed an exploratory committee, just that he is will form a leadership PAC in January.

ugh, remakes.  who cares if they genderflip one of the participants

[Brehvolution]

Only have 2 families to vote for in a democracy, brehs.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2014/12/16/?entry=7098&smid=nytpolitics&_r=0

 Jeb Bush to ‘Actively Explore’ a 2016 Run for President

Jeb Bush, the former governor of Florida, announced on Twitter and Facebook that he has “decided to actively explore the possibility of running for President of the United States.”

Mr. Bush has long been rumored as a potential Republican presidential candidate in 2016, and said in early December that he would be making a decision “in short order” on whether or not he would run.

The announcement by Mr. Bush does not say he has formed an exploratory committee, just that he is will form a leadership PAC in January.

ugh, remakes.  who cares if they genderflip one of the participants

I personally can't wait for Bush vs Clinton IV when the dopey daughters get their turn.

[Great Rumbler]

Only have 2 families to vote for in a democracy, brehs.

Warren/Sanders 2016
BELIEVE

[Phoenix Dark]

Why would you want Warren as president with a GOP house? Were you such a fan of the last 6 years that you want more? More inexperienced presidents dealing with obstructionists and corporatists?


give me Hillary. Maintain the status quo (sane judges, protect the based god Obamacare at all costs, etc) while Warren works to slowly make the senate more liberal (like Cruz has helped make the senate/house more conservative). Only bad thing is that we'll likely be knee deep in a military conflict for dick waving purposes.

[Great Rumbler]

You guys think I'm actually being serious about Warren?

[Phoenix Dark]

You guys think I'm actually being serious about Warren?

you tell me, DOG.

[Great Rumbler]

You guys think I'm actually being serious about Warren?

you tell me, DOG.

Sorry, but I don't relish the idea of a President Rubio.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

Only have 2 families to vote for in a democracy, brehs.

Warren/Sanders 2016
BELIEVE

[Trent Dole]

Only have 2 families to vote for in a democracy, brehs.

Warren/Sanders 2016
BELIEVE

Warren can't win a national election, be honest with yourself. She's my senator, and I generally absolutely love her, but she is not someone middle America would vote for cause she's an actual genuine honest to god motherfucking progressive. And America keeps shifting more and more rightward lately.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

Only have 2 families to vote for in a democracy, brehs.

Warren/Sanders 2016
BELIEVE

Warren can't win a national election, be honest with yourself. She's my senator, and I generally absolutely love her, but she is not someone middle America would vote for cause she's an actual genuine honest to god motherfucking progressive. And America keeps shifting more and more rightward lately.

[Brehvolution]

Can't wait to see Calgary Cruz complain about relations with Cuba being normalized.

Bring me dem cigars.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

Can't wait to see Calgary Cruz complain about relations with Cuba being normalized.

Bring me dem cigars.

[Human Snorenado]

Can't wait to see Calgary Cruz complain about relations with Cuba being normalized.

Bring me dem cigars.

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[Eric P]

Americans can bring back $100 worth of cigars and rum

aw yeah

[Joe Molotov]

 

[Mr. Gundam]

Americans can bring back $100 worth of cigars and rum

aw yeah

Really? So can I bring them back from Canada now? Always wanted a Cuban cigar, but I'd rather not get busted at the border.

[Eric P]

that i can't answer.  i'm sure we'll get an explainer soon enough

[Mr. Gundam]

that i can't answer.  i'm sure we'll get an explainer soon enough

Yeah, I'm just curious. Probably not something I should ask during my NEXUS card interview in March.

[Joe Molotov]

Americans can bring back $100 worth of cigars and rum

aw yeah

Really? So can I bring them back from Canada now? Always wanted a Cuban cigar, but I'd rather not get busted at the border.

Unless it was by Boogie. 

[Brehvolution]

Demand is going to skyrocket so that $100 might only be 1 or 2 cigars.

[Phoenix Dark]

Demand is going to skyrocket so that $100 might only be 1 or 2 cigars.

thanks Obama

[Great Rumbler]

So, we've had the same policy towards Cuba for basically 60 years and it hasn't done a single thing to solve any of their problems or magically imbue them with Freedom™, but now that Obama has finally announced a new approach idiots like Cruz and Rubio think it's the worst thing ever. I'd like to say that I'm surprised by that, but I'm not.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/ted-cruz-obama-cuba-statement
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/marco-rubio-obama-worst-negotiator-alan-gross

[Joe Molotov]

Can anyone explain to me why exiles in Florida or whatever are feeling "betrayed" like it says on some news networks. Why would Cubans living in the states give a shit about having diplomatic relations? Isn't that a good thing so they can visit relatives or some shits?

If we just embargoed a little bit harder, Castro would have came out with his hands up and Cuba could have been Puerto Rico 2.0.

[Steve Contra]

A lot of the Cubans mad were rich Cubans who got their shit taken in the revolution.  They still mad.

[Joe Molotov]

http://insider.foxnews.com/2014/12/15/exclusive-james-mitchell-man-who-interrogated-khalid-sheikh-mohammed-speaks-out-kelly

Mitchell told Kelly that he feels horrible because this report puts Americans at risk.

“It shows al Qaeda and the al Qaeda 2.0 folks, ISIL, that we’re divided and that we’re easy targets, that we don’t have the will to defeat them because that’s what they know. In fact, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed told me personally, ‘Your country will turn on you, the liberal media will turn on you, the people will grow tired of this, they will turn on you, and when they do, you are going to be abandoned.'”

lawl, I can just picture Khalid Sheikh Mohammed being all like "MWHAHA just wait until your Liberal American Media finds out about this!" inbetween getting waterboarded 150 times. 

[Steve Contra]

Khalid Sheikh Mohammed leading us to the real enemy?  Seems torture does work

[Dickie Dee]

Don't know what's worse, him lying about that story or one of our "master interrogators" having the script flipped on him so easily...

[Great Rumbler]

It's like one of those awful 90's thrillers where the cops finally get the bad guy and he confesses to everything, but then he's like "But it's too late, you've already lost" and a hospital blows up or something.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

Demand is going to skyrocket so that $100 might only be 1 or 2 cigars.

Got 5 cohibas in my humidor, make me an offer breh..

[Am_I_Anonymous]

 

[Mr. Gundam]

A lot of the Cubans mad were rich Cubans who got their shit taken in the revolution.  They still mad.

Yep. The younger not-so-rich Cubans aren't as opposed to getting rid of the embargo.

[Joe Molotov]

Dan Le Batard was salty this morning on Cowherd's show, saying that we were making deals with Cuba's Hitler.

[Great Rumbler]

Get mad over ending a useless embargo against Cuba, but gloss over selling weapons to Iran to fund brutal Central American regimes, doing deals with Saddam Hussein, and propping up the Taliban against Russia.

[Joe Molotov]

Dan Le Batard was salty this morning on Cowherd's show, saying that we were making deals with Cuba's Hitler.

Edit: Although he did acknowledge this was an emotional response, rather than a rational response, and that some Cubans like himself and especially his parents were never going to accept this no matter how many sense it made just because there are too many feels involved.

[Brehvolution]

Be mad salty that 50 years wasn't long enough, brehs.

Complain about communism and how it will get more expensive to vacation there because of capitalism, brehs.

[Great Rumbler]

The NBC News investigative reporter Matthew Cole has pieced together a remarkable story revealing that a single senior officer, who is still in a position of high authority over counterterrorism at the C.I.A.—a woman who he does not name—appears to have been a source of years’ worth of terrible judgment, with tragic consequences for the United States. Her story runs through the entire report. She dropped the ball when the C.I.A. was given information that might very well have prevented the 9/11 attacks; she gleefully participated in torture sessions afterward; she misinterpreted intelligence in such a way that it sent the C.I.A. on an absurd chase for Al Qaeda sleeper cells in Montana. And then she falsely told congressional overseers that the torture worked.

Had the Senate Intelligence Committee been permitted to use pseudonyms for the central characters in its report, as all previous congressional studies of intelligence failures, including the widely heralded Church Committee report in 1975, have done, it might not have taken a painstaking, and still somewhat cryptic, investigation after the fact in order for the American public to hold this senior official accountable. Many people who have worked with her over the years expressed shock to NBC that she has been entrusted with so much power. A former intelligence officer who worked directly with her is quoted by NBC, on background, as saying that she bears so much responsibility for so many intelligence failures that “she should be put on trial and put in jail for what she has done.”

Instead, however, she has been promoted to the rank of a general in the military, most recently working as the head of the C.I.A.’s global-jihad unit. In that perch, she oversees the targeting of terror suspects around the world. (She was also, in part, the model for the lead character in “Zero Dark Thirty.”)

[Human Snorenado]

GLEN SHINOBI IS *STILL* MAD AT HARRY REID, THO

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/senate-nuclear-option-seals-obama-judicial-legacy

[Joe Molotov]

Queen of Torture sounds kinda hot, tbh. Need pics first tho, do it New Yorker.

[Oblivion]

Dirty Harry

[Brehvolution]

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/rand-paul-slams-marco-rubio-cuba

[Human Snorenado]

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/obama-ribs-politico-europe

[Phoenix Dark]

that ether

[Great Rumbler]

"Rand, if he wants to become the chief cheerleader of Obama's foreign policy, he certainly has a right to do that," Rubio said on ABC's "This Week" when host George Stephanopoulos asked about the senators' fight over policy toward Cuba.

"I'm going to continue to oppose the Obama -- Obama-Paul foreign policy on Cuba because I know it won't lead to freedom and liberty for the Cuban people, which is my sole interest here," Rubio continued.

[sarslip]

that ether

get sonned by senator rand paul

[Dickie Dee]

http://www.vox.com/2014/5/25/5748178/todays-teenagers-are-the-best-behaved-generation-on-record

bu-bu-bu tumblr

[Joe Molotov]

lol old people

[Am_I_Anonymous]

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that ether

[Human Snorenado]

Looks like hardline conservatives may have figured out a way to get a wingnut nominated instead of those pussies like McCain and Romney

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/12/dixie-rising-113734.html?hp=t2_r

[Phoenix Dark]

meanwhile the media pretends like Jeb "Immigration/Common Core" Bush has a shot.

[Human Snorenado]

I will vote for the worst option that is most viable in the GOP primary field. I hope to fuck that it's Santorum.

[Great Rumbler]

Frothy Rick 2016
Believe