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[Madrun Badrun]

The smirk makes it.  Like 'O got them now'. 

[benjipwns]

I like the awkward lady staffer behind him.

[Kara]

God I can't wait to emigrate from this place.

[Madrun Badrun]

God I can't wait to emigrate from this place.

Just move to Florida if you don't want snow.

[Phoenix Dark]

God I can't wait to emigrate from this place.

Bibi beckons you to the motherland.

[benjipwns]

Bibi beckons you to the motherland.

Isn't that with Father Mike said?

[Kara]

Why move to Cuba when I can move to Cuba with socialized medicine and classic cars out the wazoo?

[benjipwns]

No internet according to Conan O'Brien.

[Kara]

I think I speak for everyone at the Bore when I say that's a selling point for me.

[benjipwns]

But I need you.

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Nobody "likes" my posts as much.

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[Joe Molotov]

http://www.zdnet.com/article/at-t-verizon-lash-out-at-fcc-after-net-neutrality-ruling/

Verizon/AT&T tears

[Kara]

But I need you.

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Nobody "likes" my posts as much.

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Rational self-interest. Typical baka capitalist. :tsundere

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Outside of Ilf and Petrov, no one has made me consistently laugh on a purely intellectual level like you do.

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[Human Snorenado]

Boner can't get it up

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/faaaaaaaail

Shutdownpalooza II: Electric Boogaloo here we come!

[Kara]

"a lawless president"

Usono

[Steve Contra]

If the Republicans stay on message and keep hammering Obama like this they'll get their wish and he won't be president come January 2017.

[Joe Molotov]

If the Republicans stay on message and keep hammering Obama like this they'll get their wish and he won't be president come January 2017.

Speaking of staying on message...

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/duck-dynasty-phil-robertson-speech-cpac

[Great Rumbler]

CPAC 2015 has more than delivered so far.

[Yeti]

 

[Great Rumbler]

:flabbynsickamerica

[Trent Dole]

:fnsusa

[Human Snorenado]

FEEL THE RANDMENTUM

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/rand-paul-wins-2015-cpac-straw-poll

[Kara]

Will he swear in on the Tipitaka, or an Aqua EP?

[Kara]

No one will talk about this waste of resources in 100 years; outside certain circles people don't even talk about Wickard v. Filburn and that case is relevant to a host of these ACA ambulance chasing exercises.

[Brehvolution]

In 20 years, conservatives will denounce AP history for teaching about King vs. Burwell because it makes America look bad.

[Human Snorenado]

TPM has really gone to shit in the past few months (ok, it's been going for longer than that, but that was just an absence of quality pieces; now we have to contend with ACTIVELY HORRIBLE SHIT clogging up the fucking site)

It's these awful "idea pieces" that have been cropping up. God they're shit.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/theslice/on-being-black-gay-celibate

DON'T CURRRRRRR

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/theslice/student-debt-crisis-a-strike-is-not-the-answer

This is a handwringing BS piece of the sort you'd expect Andrew Sullivan to write

Pour one out for your dead homie; TPM had a good run of being relevant.

[Kara]

I'm probably butchering this, but it's an IWW slogan so the ansyns can , but if striking wasn't the answer they wouldn't make it illegal.

[Joe Molotov]

TPM has really gone to shit in the past few months (ok, it's been going for longer than that, but that was just an absence of quality pieces; now we have to contend with ACTIVELY HORRIBLE SHIT clogging up the fucking site)

It's these awful "idea pieces" that have been cropping up. God they're shit.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/theslice/on-being-black-gay-celibate

DON'T CURRRRRRR

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/theslice/student-debt-crisis-a-strike-is-not-the-answer

This is a handwringing BS piece of the sort you'd expect Andrew Sullivan to write

Pour one out for your dead homie; TPM had a good run of being relevant.

Yeah, I can't read TPM these days. About the only Liberal wank I read anymore is Charles P. Pierce's blog on Esquire. Maybe drop by Dailykos and Balloon Juice once a week.

[Joe Molotov]

Remember the time protesters went to Scott Walkers house and he wasn't there but his parents were and Scott Walker valiantly defended them by going on Fox News to complain about people being mean to his parents. Profiles in Courage shit right there.

[Phoenix Dark]

TPM has been pretty boring ever since Brian Beutler left, but now it's straight up bad. I still visit daily because I like the editor posts, namely Josh Marshall's opinions on Israel/Bibi/etc. But I'm not really into the "5 reasons why x is in a bad spot" pieces that prop up. Also the liberal slant is more pronounced now. It's a liberal site I know, and I'm a liberal...but for instance they reported that Jeb Bush had a rough time at CPAC...whereas just about every other news site I read said he handled himself well, protests weren't as big as expected, etc.

[Brehvolution]

[Great Rumbler]

Throw TPM in the bushes, brehs. Read Media Matters, Al Jazeera America, and Mother Jones instead.

[Brehvolution]

The mediaite comments section. Take your fauxnews.com commenters and Dailykos/TP commenters and put them together and watch the magic happen.

[benjipwns]

Mediaite's comments on their opinion pieces are even better. Because there's at least ten dudes who have a hardon hatred for the writer, no matter what they post about. And they'll make like 90 posts responding to every other comment talking about how the guy eats shit or something.

I just go to this and click through: http://www.memeorandum.com/

You get vital stories like this: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2015/03/02/dea-warns-of-stoned-rabbits-if-utah-passes-medical-marijuana/

Utah is considering a bill that would allow patients with certain debilitating conditions to be treated with edible forms of marijuana. If the bill passes, the state's wildlife may "cultivate a taste" for the plant, lose their fear of humans, and basically be high all the time. That's according to testimony presented to a Utah Senate panel (time stamp 58:00) last week by an agent of the Drug Enforcement Administration.

"I deal in facts. I deal in science," said special agent Matt Fairbanks, who's been working in the state for a decade. He is member of the "marijuana eradication" team in Utah.

...

Fairbanks said that at some illegal marijuana grow sites he saw "rabbits that had cultivated a taste for the marijuana. ..." He continued: "One of them refused to leave us, and we took all the marijuana around him, but his natural instincts to run were somehow gone."

[Brehvolution]

Devil's lettuce indeed.

[Kara]

I only get my news from trusted publications: People's Daily, People's World, and People Magazine.

[Kara]

looooooool

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Supreme Court has turned away an appeal from same-sex marriage opponents in California who want to keep the identities of their campaign donors secret.

The justices on Monday let stand a lower court ruling against ProtectMarriage.com, the National Organization for Marriage and other supporters of a 2008 ballot initiative that outlawed same-sex marriages in California until the ban was overturned five years later.

The groups sought to conceal their past and future campaign finance records because they feared harassment of donors. The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled against them in part because the names have been publicly available for five years.

[benjipwns]

I only get my news from trusted publications: People's Daily, People's World, and People Magazine.

I see a specific shall we say Revolutionary newspaper missing...

[Kara]

I only get my news from trusted publications: People's Daily, People's World, and People Magazine.

I see a specific shall we say Revolutionary newspaper missing...

http://www.revcom.us/a/376/poem-from-a-reader-en.html

Revolution's website is straight up GeoCities.

[TakingBackSunday]

Anyone following this stupid Hilary story

[Phoenix Dark]

Anyone following this stupid Hilary story

Sounds serious. Not in terms of electoral consequences (she'll be fine) but in terms of being of being an abuse of government. It smells bad, government officials know they aren't supposed to do it - the fact that Hillary did it anyway, while also knowing she'd be running for president in a few years, strikes me as a problem. Either she didn't give a shit or the benefits outweighed the negative. I'd want to know what that benefit was.

Clinton cronyism.

[benjipwns]

I'd want to know what that benefit was.

It makes FOIA more difficult. Look at the EPA case.

[benjipwns]

but decent people wouldn't ... think of policy-making as a game.

Congress wishes to issue a protest.

There was an Arkansas law that if read literally would repeal all statutes in the state. Where was the moral pontificating about holding administrations to the clear letter of the law then?

https://books.google.com/books?id=l4A0BVUeYHsC&pg=PA148&lpg=PA148&dq=Arkansas+repeal+all+statutes+absurdity&source=bl&ots=B4IkrE0WOW&sig=t2033WW2hOPcSUzhKzJuApiAMxw&hl=en&sa=X&ei=tOD1VJUfjOegBMJG&ved=0CB4Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Arkansas%20repeal%20all%20statutes%20absurdity&f=false

Right, it didn't happen, because people were adults and not partisan hacks trying to advance a failed agenda through any means necessary.

Damn, missed opportunity.

[Kara]

benji for governor of Arkansas.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

The plain text of the law has myriad instances in which FFEs are clearly referred to as exchanges established by the state. The plain text of the law says that if a state fails to establish its exchange by the deadline, the exact equivalent exchange is set up by the HHS.

The plain text of the law also seems to contradict itself if you go with the narrow definition of state exchange, and when that happens, we should settle on an interpretation that makes sense given the context of the law as a whole, which the plaintiffs' interpretation utterly fails at.

This is really going to get hung up on interpretation isn't it? At first I thought it was a bad joke.

[benjipwns]

If so, then why did they vote yes on it and why did the President sign it?

Because they were about to lose their 60 votes.

[Steve Contra]

Reads the WSJ opinion page, argues with JayDubya.  Might be time for ol' Glen Shinobi to take an internet break.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

Reads the WSJ opinion page, argues with JayDubya.  Might be time for ol' Glen Shinobi to take an internet break.

I have to agree and I sit firmly across party lines from most of you.

Look, this whole plan was never well thought out, executed, and pretty much was pushed through without a ton of review due to congressional seating changes. It's going to fail eventually, we can't afford it. However this isn't the way to go about it.

I guess I liken it to building a nice truck before they even approved a highway for it to drive on.

I'm just waiting for a president to adopt the House of Card's "Reform entitlements and eliminate social security" and actually mean it.

Honestly the math doesn't work in your favor here, we can't keep stuffing the cash drawer for this. I actually like the idea but the concept has always and will always be flawed. However that's another discussion.

[Kara]

Is the purpose of law justice or order? If you believe it to be the former, then you cannot be a literalist. Unless of course you think things like multi-state simultaneous residency for income tax purposes (which is perfectly correct by the letter of the law) is just.

As someone unencumbered by logical thought and paid to generally poke holes in the dike built by society to shore up its own bullshit, I do appreciate legal literalism. My job would be exponentially less entertaining without it.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

Is the purpose of law justice or order? If you believe it to be the former, then you cannot be a literalist. Unless of course you think things like multi-state simultaneous residency for income tax purposes (which is perfectly correct by the letter of the law) is just.

Sir I maintain a residence in Texas purely for the tex-mex and ancillary benefits of a warm climate. I assure you it has nothing to do with any type or form of taxation.

(They literally tell you to do this when you get to the professional level of sports)

[jakefromstatefarm]

I realize you "living document" tards like to pretend the Constitution is sooooo old and sooooo complicated that it needs to be "reinterpreted" (read: insert whatever the fuck you want and pretend it's been there the wholetime)

Is this not how the judicial branch has operated since day 1? (Sincere question)

[Kara]

Sir I maintain a residence in Texas purely for the tex-mex and ancillary benefits of a warm climate. I assure you it has nothing to do with any type or form of taxation.

(They literally tell you to do this when you get to the professional level of sports)

Conversely, I'm fairly certain that I'll still be a resident for California income tax purposes 15 years after I'm dead.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

Conversely, I'm pretty sure that I'll still be a resident for California income tax purposes 15 years after I'm dead.

Now that's funny.   

[Am_I_Anonymous]

I realize you "living document" tards like to pretend the Constitution is sooooo old and sooooo complicated that it needs to be "reinterpreted" (read: insert whatever the fuck you want and pretend it's been there the wholetime)

Is this not how the judicial branch has operated since day 1? (Sincere question)

Nah, they operate according to who's party actually put them on the bench. This works up from the guys deciding how much to fine you for speeding up to the supreme court.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

But moving on to a less stressful subject,

Which one of your democraps is going to tell me Israel is fucking over your party? Waiting for a 5000 word essay on that...oh wait GAF has that covered.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

No thank you.  I'd rather continue pointing out why you're wrong.

You've been factually incorrect about multiple legal doctrines and don't seem to have a grasp of how policy is written or the fact that muddy text happens all the time.

You're more out of your depth here than I'd be trying to score a touchdown on AIA in his prime.

Applying interpretation to the written word is the job of our judicial system (and Valarai apparently), can't argue that. What I can say is that the person figuratively standing over them telling them how to do so is frightening.

[Great Rumbler]

But moving on to a less stressful subject,

Which one of your democraps is going to tell me Israel is fucking over your party? Waiting for a 5000 word essay on that...oh wait GAF has that covered.

5,000 words? If they can't do that in one sentence, then they shouldn't be talking politics to begin with.

[Great Rumbler]

Fuck yes.  Although the very existence of a "healthcare.gov" is absolutely revolting.

A government-maintained store front used exclusively by for-profit corporations? Yeah, forget about wars and stuff, that's the REAL tragedy.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

But moving on to a less stressful subject,

Which one of your democraps is going to tell me Israel is fucking over your party? Waiting for a 5000 word essay on that...oh wait GAF has that covered.

5,000 words? If they can't do that in one sentence, then they shouldn't be talking politics to begin with.

LOL, can't argue with that response.

Here's my personal take. Despite saying it's "Not about the politics" Netanyahu is clearly about the politics. Israel is banking on a conservative president next election and are putting all their cards on it.

He gave a great speech (minus the stupid clapping, so tasteless) and was clearly targeting American Jewish (who typically vote Liberal) during it.

I'm obviously not on your side here, but again, lately politics is more humorous then seinfield with the thinly veiled attacks and all. Our parents are all passive aggressive trolls aren't they?

[Am_I_Anonymous]

No thank you.  I'd rather continue pointing out why you're wrong.

You've been factually incorrect about multiple legal doctrines and don't seem to have a grasp of how policy is written or the fact that muddy text happens all the time.

You're more out of your depth here than I'd be trying to score a touchdown on AIA in his prime.

Applying interpretation to the written word is the job of our judicial system (and Valarai apparently), can't argue that. What I can say is that the person figuratively standing over them telling them how to do so is frightening.

All I'm saying is that if they want to be consistent with established legal doctrines, they should rule in favor of the administration.

Hmmmm, sounds a little dangerous don't you think?

[Steve Contra]

I'm curious when the big break with the Israel Right and American Jews is coming?  The older generation is dying off and no one I know has anything but contempt for Netanyahu and folks like him.