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[Mandark]

He seems awfully Shoah that.

Boooooo...  *slow clap*

[Boogie]

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Yes, because as we all remember, in the 30s and 40s, Republicans in Congress were eager and pushing to get involved and join the fight to stop Hitler, but were foiled at every turn by that unrepentant isolationist, Franklin Roosevelt.

[Joe Molotov]

Tom Cotton would have sent a letter to Hilter that would have blown his socks off.

[benjipwns]

Yes, because as we all remember, in the 30s and 40s, Republicans in Congress were eager and pushing to get involved and join the fight to stop Hitler, but were foiled at every turn by that unrepentant isolationist, Franklin Roosevelt.

This is your fault you know, Steven Crowder was raised in Canada and is a Canadian citizen. (Lists his birthplace as Detroit, but was actually...surprise! Grosse Pointe.)

[Am_I_Anonymous]

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Yes, because as we all remember, in the 30s and 40s, Republicans in Congress were eager and pushing to get involved and join the fight to stop Hitler, but were foiled at every turn by that unrepentant isolationist, Franklin Roosevelt.

Or we could point out less than 30% of all democrats voted to abolish slavery compared to 100% of the republicans. Just sayin' we all can cherry pick irrelevant data from a long time ago.


http://tfdf.org/blog/2012/08/30/the-democrat-party-vs-the-republican-party-who-is-the-true-champion-of-the-ending-slavery-the-civil-rights-movement-and-the-black-community/


You all might forget to remember you were the biggest slaver backer out there, them democrats supporting segregation.

[benjipwns]

Slavery has never been abolished in the United States.

[benjipwns]

And I'd argue the 13th Amendment was ratified under duress by the occupied states.

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Of course I would.

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[Am_I_Anonymous]

Slavery has never been abolished in the United States.

Thanks democrats.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

A_I_A is approaching GOAT Bore heel status.

[Kara]

Pointing out material reality isn't cherry picking. Even if the Fightin' 47 were sincere friends of the Jewish people (and to be blunt, I don't buy that for one minute; look at the language that Tweeter uses), if they were thrust back in time to the 30s, they would be representing an American people who were explicitly anti-Semitic across swathes of society irrespective of political alignment for the most part, and if there's one thing a national politician is, it's someone willing to say anything to the folks back home to get reelected.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

[Eric P]

I found this to be a really fascinating read about soldiers who were deployed to the mid-east who, dissatisfied with working shit desk jobs in the US, have gone back to fight ISIS on a volunteer basis

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/12/us/disenchanted-by-civilian-life-veterans-volunteer-to-fight-isis.html?partner=socialflow&smid=tw-nytimes

[Boogie]

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Yes, because as we all remember, in the 30s and 40s, Republicans in Congress were eager and pushing to get involved and join the fight to stop Hitler, but were foiled at every turn by that unrepentant isolationist, Franklin Roosevelt.

Or we could point out less than 30% of all democrats voted to abolish slavery compared to 100% of the republicans. Just sayin' we all can cherry pick irrelevant data from a long time ago.


http://tfdf.org/blog/2012/08/30/the-democrat-party-vs-the-republican-party-who-is-the-true-champion-of-the-ending-slavery-the-civil-rights-movement-and-the-black-community/


You all might forget to remember you were the biggest slaver backer out there, them democrats supporting segregation.

1). What does the abolishment of slavery have to do with Hitler or foreign policy?   

2) "You were the biggest slaver backer out there".  "You" who?  Canadian, remember

[Am_I_Anonymous]

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Yes, because as we all remember, in the 30s and 40s, Republicans in Congress were eager and pushing to get involved and join the fight to stop Hitler, but were foiled at every turn by that unrepentant isolationist, Franklin Roosevelt.

Or we could point out less than 30% of all democrats voted to abolish slavery compared to 100% of the republicans. Just sayin' we all can cherry pick irrelevant data from a long time ago.


http://tfdf.org/blog/2012/08/30/the-democrat-party-vs-the-republican-party-who-is-the-true-champion-of-the-ending-slavery-the-civil-rights-movement-and-the-black-community/


You all might forget to remember you were the biggest slaver backer out there, them democrats supporting segregation.

1). What does the abolishment of slavery have to do with Hitler or foreign policy?   

2) "You were the biggest slaver backer out there".  "You" who?  Canadian, remember

Damn British sympathizers. 

[Am_I_Anonymous]

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Quote a character who's supposed to be a shitbag politician unironically, brehs

He's still the boss

[Joe Molotov]

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Quote a character who's supposed to be a shitbag politician unironically, brehs

He's still the boss

Then why can't he just deploy Atlas Corporation forces to wipe out ISIS?

[Am_I_Anonymous]

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Quote a character who's supposed to be a shitbag politician unironically, brehs

He's still the boss

Then why can't he just deploy Atlas Corporation forces to wipe out ISIS?

Thanks Democrats

[jakefromstatefarm]

Pointing out material reality isn't cherry picking. Even if the Fightin' 47 were sincere friends of the Jewish people (and to be blunt, I don't buy that for one minute; look at the language that Tweeter uses), if they were thrust back in time to the 30s, they would be representing an American people who were explicitly anti-Semitic across swathes of society irrespective of political alignment for the most part, and if there's one thing a national politician is, it's someone willing to say anything to the folks back home to get reelected.

at the time of the enabling act in 1933, the states aren't even 10 years removed from the last piece of immigration legislation specifically targeted against eastern European populations (amongst others); Jews were a significant part of (and, wrt Reformed, played tangential roles in) eugenics rhetoric throughout the first third of the 20th

[Kara]

Even today in the year of their lord 2015, people like Charles Lindbergh and Henry Ford enjoy relatively unblemished reputations in public consciousness (nice try doe Philip Roth), which is particularly offensive in the case of the latter as his anti-Semitic work was specifically mentioned by Nazis as being influential on their development as Nazis.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

Even today in the year of their lord 2015, people like Charles Lindbergh and Henry Ford enjoy relatively unblemished reputations in public consciousness (nice try doe Philip Roth), which is particularly offensive in the case of the latter as his anti-Semitic work was specifically mentioned by Nazis as being influential on their development as Nazis.

Henry Ford was Hitler's main man. The reason more people don't know this is the same reason 70% of 10 year olds can't locate France on a map....that american education breh.

[ToxicAdam]

Hey, it was the style at the time. Like tying an onion to yer belt.

[Human Snorenado]

Even today in the year of their lord 2015, people like Charles Lindbergh and Henry Ford enjoy relatively unblemished reputations in public consciousness (nice try doe Philip Roth), which is particularly offensive in the case of the latter as his anti-Semitic work was specifically mentioned by Nazis as being influential on their development as Nazis.

Henry Ford was Hitler's main man. The reason more people don't know this is the same reason 70% of 10 year olds can't locate France on a map....that american education breh.

THANKS, COMMON CORE

[Am_I_Anonymous]

Even today in the year of their lord 2015, people like Charles Lindbergh and Henry Ford enjoy relatively unblemished reputations in public consciousness (nice try doe Philip Roth), which is particularly offensive in the case of the latter as his anti-Semitic work was specifically mentioned by Nazis as being influential on their development as Nazis.

Henry Ford was Hitler's main man. The reason more people don't know this is the same reason 70% of 10 year olds can't locate France on a map....that american education breh.

THANKS, COMMON CORE

Sir, we are not interested an educating your child to the level of their contemporaries around the world. We just want them to be able to color in the correct bubble on their evaluation test. 

Signed,

The Democrats

PS: Your request for funding for new books was denied. we needed that money to employ a bunch of bottom tier shit dicks in our latest unneeded highway project. Stay tuned Duluth, you're going 4 lanes!

[Phoenix Dark]

[Steve Contra]

The Republicans are racing to fund our schools to the levels of their contempora...eh fuck it I can't even finish joking about it

[Am_I_Anonymous]

The Republicans are racing to fund our schools to the levels of their contempora...eh fuck it I can't even finish joking about it

Hey you're in charge, still waiting on that change. Stop pointing fingers and fucking over our allies and work on improving our schools as promised, fellas. Tick Tock, Tick Tock.

But to be fare Duncan did add another page to our science books:

[Brehvolution]

It's OK. Charter schools will save the day!

http://integrityineducation.org/charter-fraud/

“A new report released today reveals that fraudulent charter operators in 15 states are responsible for losing, misusing or wasting over $100 million in taxpayer money.”

Masai Skiefs, former CEO of the Harambee Institute of Science Technology Charter School in Pennsylvania, who pled guilty to stealing $88,000 for various purposes, including a down payment on a house.
 
William and Shirley Pierce, former operators of Right Step Academy Charter School in Minnesota, who were sentenced to 37 and 30 months in federal prison, respectively, for using public dollars for a Caribbean cruise vacation, $17,561.87 to pay off personal credit card debt, and $11,125.00 to purchase season tickets to the Minnesota Timberwolves, among other things;
 
Joel Pourier, former CEO of Oh Day Aki Heart Charter School in Minnesota, who embezzled $1.38 million from 2003 to 2008. He used the money on houses, cars, and trips to strip clubs. Meanwhile, according to an article in the Minneapolis Star Tribune, the school “lacked funds for field trips, supplies, computers and textbooks.”

 A judge sentenced Mr. Pourier to 10 years in prison.
 Given the number of years, and the severity of the fraud, over a million dollars might have been saved had there been adequate charter oversight

We found a number of cases where charter operators were caught using public funds to illegally support their own personal businesses. For example, in 2012, the former CEO and founder of the New Media Technology Charter School in Philadelphia was sentenced to prison for stealing $522,000 in taxpayer money to prop up a restaurant, a health food store, and a private school.
 In Florida, the former director of Life Skills Center Charter School, John Wyche, was sentenced in 2011 to serve more than six years in prison for misusing more than $750,000 in state education monies to sustain a failing apartment complex that he owned.

[Mandark]

fucking over our allies

eh?

[Am_I_Anonymous]

fucking over our allies

eh?

[Human Snorenado]

The Republicans are racing to fund our schools to the levels of their contempora...eh fuck it I can't even finish joking about it

Hey you're in charge, still waiting on that change. Stop pointing fingers and fucking over our allies and work on improving our schools as promised, fellas. Tick Tock, Tick Tock.

But to be fare Duncan did add another page to our science books:

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Act like most funding/prioritization for schools doesn't come from the state level or lower, breh

[Steve Contra]

Act like the republicans want an education system like the gay commies of the rest of the world brehs

[Am_I_Anonymous]

The Republicans are racing to fund our schools to the levels of their contempora...eh fuck it I can't even finish joking about it

Hey you're in charge, still waiting on that change. Stop pointing fingers and fucking over our allies and work on improving our schools as promised, fellas. Tick Tock, Tick Tock.

But to be fare Duncan did add another page to our science books:

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Act like most funding/prioritization for schools doesn't come from the state level or lower, breh

Then perhaps Obama shouldn't have highlighted it in both campaigns? At some point you're gonna have to admit he missed more than he hit.

[Kara]

In terms of history only I ascribe the failings of education more to ideology than money. The history of the American labor movement--one so important it's the origin of May Day--was eliminated from curriculums very deliberately inthe 1980s. I remember being taught that the Rosenbergs were straight up innocent, not merely railroaded like Sacco and Vanzetti. (Someone else want to make the Grammar / Gramsci School joke here?)

Reading, writing, arithmetic, that's another problem entirely.

[Human Snorenado]

The Republicans are racing to fund our schools to the levels of their contempora...eh fuck it I can't even finish joking about it

Hey you're in charge, still waiting on that change. Stop pointing fingers and fucking over our allies and work on improving our schools as promised, fellas. Tick Tock, Tick Tock.

But to be fare Duncan did add another page to our science books:

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Act like most funding/prioritization for schools doesn't come from the state level or lower, breh

Then perhaps Obama shouldn't have highlighted it in both campaigns? At some point you're gonna have to admit he missed more than he hit.

You're assuming that I bought into the whole "hope n change" BS and didn't just want a President that wouldn't get us bogged down in two wars for over a decade while simultaneously letting an American city drown because he put a horse judge in charge of FEMA and try to Jesus-ify as much of the gubmint as he could, and toss us into the biggest financial meltdown since the Great Depression. Dude's got an A+ on my report card.

Besides, America has public education on par with the better education countries out there anyway*

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*as long as you're not poor

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[Phoenix Dark]

whose uncle is this

[Am_I_Anonymous]

whose uncle is this

Let's eliminate the obvious: It's not me, you, esch, or Darth.

My bet? Vularai

[Kara]

Two of my uncles are dead, another lives in yuroop (long story) and the other is a university professor--doubt it.

[Phoenix Dark]

I'd bet on Borys.

[Rufus]

"Removed by the user"

[benjipwns]

Then why can't he just deploy Atlas Corporation forces to wipe out ISIS?

Buy an Atlas, and you too can see what it feels like to hold the power of the gods in your hands!

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Though the Crimson Lance wound up being ineffective pussies after the initial encounter in Old Haven.

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[Am_I_Anonymous]

http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/11/politics/drunk-secret-service-agents-white-house/index.html

[Great Rumbler]

In a new twist, Fox News is now using clear evidence of the existence of a problem to prove that the problem doesn't actually exist:

“There are very few companies in America, whether they’re public or private, in which if you sic 40 FBI agents on the company and review every email and every document and every communication between employees, you won’t find any racist emails," Megyn Kelly said during her show, "The Kelly File."

[Phoenix Dark]

Actually it's worse than that: she's saying it doesn't matter because everyone does it. I'd accept this argument if it was about digging in your nose or watching porn...but not about racism in a corporate environment or worse yet, a fucking justice department.

I wonder what her response would be if the US government was sending racially charged emails about white people...

[Great Rumbler]

I wonder what her response would be if the US government was sending racially charged emails about white people...

Well, they already think the Obama administration loves Muslims and hates Christians [based entirely on nothing], soo...

[Brehvolution]

She's admitting that they send racist emails at fux news ergo everyone else does. Most people would get fired for using corporate email in that manner.

Tone deafly defend racists, brehs.

[Brehvolution]

    “Well, let me say, they should go to Israel, and if they’re not circumcised, they should get cut. Because they deserve it. I mean, this is insane. You know, the whole thing’s insane. By the way it’s not like Obama versus the Jews or the Jews versus Obama, it not about that at all. No president ever has bent over more backward for the Jews…

    “[The Republicans] should become a Jew, put on a yarmulke because they are not Americans, they have sold their soul to the Jewish power in this country and the Jewish power overseas.”

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http://www.mediaite.com/online/david-duke-gopers-behind-iran-letter-not-american-sold-souls-to-jewish-power/

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[HyperZoneWasAwesome]

the Iran letter has now been condemned by Dick Cheney and David Duke.  To the right of Dick Cheney and David Duke...

and I'm not sure which bizarro world to a normal earth I'm living in.

[Kara]

Teh Jewish powazzzzzz. :geoff

[Great Rumbler]

the Iran letter has now been condemned by Dick Cheney and David Duke.  To the right of Dick Cheney and David Duke...

and I'm not sure which bizarro world to a normal earth I'm living in.

Republicans are already trying to walk it back. You've got McCain saying that maybe it wasn't the best way to get their message across and then there's Senate staffers trying to claim that they were just joking around and the letter wasn't supposed to be serious.

[Joe Molotov]

Teh Jewish powazzzzzz. :geoff

Tell us of the protocols of your learned elders, Kara.

[Phoenix Dark]

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2015/03/13/nra-may-lose-longtime-backer-glenn-beck-because/202889

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[Joe Molotov]

Glenn Beck claimed on his radio show today that he spoke to National Rifle Association executive vice president and CEO Wayne LaPierre and was told that the NRA is "opening up an ethics investigation" to determine "once and for all" if Grover Norquist is an agent of the Muslim Brotherhood. Beck also definitively said he would leave the NRA if Norquist is reelected to the NRA's board of directors in April.

  :deadpos :joel

[Great Rumbler]

It's like a paranoia inception.

[Kara]

Tell us of the protocols of your learned elders, Kara.

Well the first thing is that they aren't like written rules or even customary guidelines, but constituent organizations in WORLDWIDE JEWISH CONSPIRACY, a Swiss verein. (I've been trying to get them to go the KPMG route on this but I'm just a mischlinge mailboy.)

For example, Protocol 6 is merely a bank holding company that controls every bank outside the People's Republic of China. Protocol 4? Just an international K Street type lobbying firm. (Sorry Mandark, you do important work there! Hearts and minds, all that good stuff) Protocol 13? A Madison Avenue tier consulting firm. Protocol 21? The Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation. (And you verkakte goyim thought it was the Federal Reserve System. )

Protocol 15 is, ironically I'd add, not a Masonic lodge or any kind of Masonic organization.

I have my dreams set on Protocol 18, but for some reason deliberately fucking up the mail delivery isn't viewed as chaotic by the Elders, or even Erisian, just shitty work.

[Phoenix Dark]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/war-with-iran-is-probably-our-best-option/2015/03/13/fb112eb0-c725-11e4-a199-6cb5e63819d2_story.html

reminds me of some of the stuff I read during the lead up to Iraq. Pure, dangerous insanity.

[Great Rumbler]

A little digging produced this article from the same writer all the way back in 2006:

WE MUST bomb Iran.

It has been four years since that country's secret nuclear program was brought to light, and the path of diplomacy and sanctions has led nowhere.

Aside from a few words swapped around, it's the exact same article.

[Joe Molotov]

We gotta find the smoking gun before it becomes a mushroom cloud, brehs.

[Mandark]

Yeah, Muravchick is a neocon's neocon.  He's your go-to guy if you're really, really scared of Muslims and want to see them blown up, but have just enough self-awareness to be embarrassed by Pam Gellar.  Karakand could probably throw some shade at his dad Manny, a rabidly anticommunist "socialist" labor activist.

Meanwhile the WaPo also ran a piece by Michael Gerson, saying the letter was a bad idea but so is a potential deal with Iran.  He takes a different tack, arguing that the US can just keep up sanctions and isolation until the pressure forces regime change or Iran--spontaneously and without assurances of reciprocation--starts acting friendlier.  They're both asinine.

[Kara]

He was a Yipsell, so I assume pops was O.G. SPA, which I begrudgingly respect.

I wonder if he was a Red Falcon.

[Van Cruncheon]

dat sheldon adelson tip. it's so demonic, brehs.