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benjipwns · « **Reply #8640 on:** April 08, 2015, 02:56:55 PM »

jakefromstatefarm · « **Reply #8641 on:** April 08, 2015, 02:57:43 PM »

youtube poli-sci analysis :blessed

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not really related but I don't know if I'll ever get a better opportunity to plug this channel

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benjipwns · « **Reply #8642 on:** April 08, 2015, 03:03:38 PM »

I need mac's opinion on that shirt in the first video about psychological origins.

EDIT: This guy actually slowly sounds better and better because of his accent as he's gone from the screen. I'm being convinced but BAM then he shows back up and I'm distracted by his inability to not look directly at his writings.

Kara · « **Reply #8643 on:** April 08, 2015, 03:03:54 PM »

Quote from: JayDubya on April 08, 2015, 02:33:28 PM

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Was he the one that did the Marxist analysis of Dragon Ball Z awhile back?

wat

When you accept the notion that all things are political it becomes far too easy to politically analyze things.

I like to think of it as the antithesis to the Gramscian thesis that it is necessary for the working class to develop its own organic intelligentsia.

Man, I wonder if MaoistRebel has a video on the Prison Notebooks. The irony would be incomprehensible.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #8644 on:** April 08, 2015, 03:08:26 PM »

Quote from: benjipwns on April 08, 2015, 02:32:05 PM

He's also got a bunch of Marxist Analysis of Fallout: New Vegas videos.

benjipwns · « **Reply #8645 on:** April 08, 2015, 03:13:09 PM »

The one thing I don't understand about PoliSci or similar (like Anita) YouTubers is why so many of them are mostly just videos of the person, like Stefan Molyneux does 50 minute long videos of him in front of a white wall.

The Great Communicator knew you need visual aides:

Kara · « **Reply #8646 on:** April 08, 2015, 03:19:15 PM »

Cult of Personality, duh.

Koba's lesson to the sands of time.

jakefromstatefarm · « **Reply #8647 on:** April 08, 2015, 03:21:19 PM »

the flip side of that is when it's just images and a disengaged narrator

there was one channel I stumbled onto that featured cobbled together 10 minute slideshows that were so obviously made using windows movie maker; it was this guy who made just-so arguments while trying to tow the line of partisanship but ended each video with a shot of his face on Lenin's body holding a hammer and sickle leading the proletariat to revolution with Государственный гимн СССР playing in the background

benjipwns · « **Reply #8648 on:** April 08, 2015, 03:26:48 PM »

Yeah, you gotta keep active with the visual aides, not just slides and pictures that stay up for ten minutes:

benjipwns · « **Reply #8649 on:** April 08, 2015, 10:14:55 PM »

Comparing the "Social Contract" to fedualism, debt bondage and multi-generational slavery to delegitimize the death penalty. Being told to read The Republic or a basic poli sci textbook and having things explained to me like I don't already know that view and reject their ludicrous pro-corporate-state arguments. Then quoting Lysander Spooner comparing highwaymen positively in contrast to the government cause I don't give a shit.

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Talking about internet "debate" like I'm accomplishing anything.

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"Internet debate" being my closest thing to accomplishment for the day

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Kara · « **Reply #8650 on:** April 08, 2015, 10:20:30 PM »

U made me smile bae, that's something 2

benjipwns · « **Reply #8651 on:** April 08, 2015, 10:32:42 PM »

Tell me this isn't a "he mad" piece of writing:

Quote from: Spooner

It is true that the theory of our Constitution is, that all taxes are paid voluntarily; that our government is a mutual insurance company, voluntarily entered into by the people with each other; that each man makes a free and purely voluntary contract with all others who are parties to the Constitution, to pay so much money for so much protection, the same as he does with any other insurance company; and that he is just as free not to be protected, and not to pay any tax, as he is to pay a tax, and be protected.

But this theory of our government is wholly different from the practical fact. The fact is that the government, like a highwayman, says to a man: Your money, or your life. And many, if not most, taxes are paid under the compulsion of that threat.

The government does not, indeed, waylay a man in a lonely place, spring upon him from the road side, and, holding a pistol to his head, proceed to rifle his pockets. But the robbery is none the less a robbery on that account; and it is far more dastardly and shameful.

The highwayman takes solely upon himself the responsibility, danger, and crime of his own act. He does not pretend that he has any rightful claim to your money, or that he intends to use it for your own benefit. He does not pretend to be anything but a robber. He has not acquired impudence enough to profess to be merely a "protector," and that he takes men's money against their will, merely to enable him to "protect" those infatuated travellers, who feel perfectly able to protect themselves, or do not appreciate his peculiar system of protection. He is too sensible a man to make such professions as these. Furthermore, having taken your money, he leaves you, as you wish him to do. He does not persist in following you on the road, against your will; assuming to be your rightful "sovereign," on account of the "protection" he affords you. He does not keep "protecting" you, by commanding you to bow down and serve him; by requiring you to do this, and forbidding you to do that; by robbing you of more money as often as he finds it for his interest or pleasure to do so; and by branding you as a rebel, a traitor, and an enemy to your country, and shooting you down without mercy, if you dispute his authority, or resist his demands. He is too much of a gentleman to be guilty of such impostures, and insults, and villainies as these. In short, he does not, in addition to robbing you, attempt to make you either his dupe or his slave.

The proceedings of those robbers and murderers, who call themselves "the government," are directly the opposite of these of the single highwayman.

In the first place, they do not, like him, make themselves individually known; or, consequently, take upon themselves personally the responsibility of their acts. On the contrary, they secretly (by secret ballot) designate some one of their number to commit the robbery in their behalf, while they keep themselves practically concealed.

jakefromstatefarm · « **Reply #8652 on:** April 08, 2015, 10:46:41 PM »

the highwayman wouldn't have to participate in thievery if he wasn't racked by institutional poverty

benjipwns · « **Reply #8653 on:** April 08, 2015, 10:48:53 PM »

Or if he was allowed to run his own postal carrier service!

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #8654 on:** April 09, 2015, 02:09:07 PM »

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #8655 on:** April 09, 2015, 02:29:46 PM »

http://crooksandliars.com/2015/04/fox-news-host-wants-death-penalty-tsarnaev

lmao, maybe Obama will put him in a package deal with Sirhan Sirhan and Nidal Hassan

Kara · « **Reply #8656 on:** April 09, 2015, 02:49:30 PM »

The MaoistRebel video on #GamerGate wasn't what I was expecting it to be.

I guess you shouldn't judge a rotund white man with a beard by his cover.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #8657 on:** April 09, 2015, 02:53:42 PM »

Quote from: Vularai on April 09, 2015, 02:49:30 PM

The MaoistRebel video on #GamerGate wasn't what I was expecting it to be.

"The psychotic mentality of the MRA, their conspiratorial mindset, in this incident has been laid bare for the entire world to see."

Kara · « **Reply #8658 on:** April 09, 2015, 02:57:27 PM »

"Tell me more... the supposed 'revolutionary potential' of first world people."

Kara · « **Reply #8659 on:** April 09, 2015, 03:50:08 PM »

If I want to abuse my child the state can't stop me. :MurrayRothbard:

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #8660 on:** April 09, 2015, 03:54:18 PM »

I hope he bans circumcision next. #MRA

brob · « **Reply #8661 on:** April 09, 2015, 08:44:00 PM »

Kara · « **Reply #8662 on:** April 09, 2015, 08:49:23 PM »

Business television sure has gone to shit.

Watching Bloomberg every morning before school during the dot com era.

benjipwns · « **Reply #8663 on:** April 10, 2015, 11:34:24 AM »

http://www.speaker.gov/titanic

Kara · « **Reply #8664 on:** April 10, 2015, 12:06:41 PM »

Get me the fuck out of here.

I'm a Puppy! · « **Reply #8665 on:** April 10, 2015, 12:38:09 PM »

No. Not again.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #8666 on:** April 10, 2015, 12:56:56 PM »

Give me access to Medicaid like one of your french girls.

benjipwns · « **Reply #8667 on:** April 10, 2015, 01:12:17 PM »

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/04/lindsey-graham-rand-paul-2016-116837.html

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South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham may still be weighing whether to run for president, but he already has a strategy — distancing himself from fellow senator Rand Paul.

In TV appearances, on the campaign trail, and even in private fundraisers, Graham, an Air Force reservist and one of his party’s most prominent defense hawks, has gone after Paul repeatedly and by name, casting him as weak-kneed and unwilling to protect the country from aggressors.

In interviews, Graham aides said he was laying out a plan to position himself as Paul’s foil, and will repeatedly contrast his foreign policy positions to that of the Kentucky senator’s more isolationist views, especially in debates. They believe that going after Paul — or “putting wood on him,” in the words of one aide — drives attention to Graham and, at a time of rising concern about threats from abroad, helps establish himself as the hawk of the Republican field.

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The Kentucky senator, he said, “in many ways is to the left of Barack Obama.” To defeat Hillary Clinton, Graham argued, Republicans would need a nominee with robust national defense strategy. “Sen. Paul isn’t in a good position to do that,” he said.

Paul, 52, declined to comment on his relationship with Graham, and many of his advisers — who over the years have observed Graham launch similar broadsides against Paul’s father, former Texas Rep. Ron Paul — are hesitant to respond to Graham’s attacks, believing that it will only help the South Carolina senator.

“Punching down third-tier candidates doesn’t often make a lot of sense,” said Jesse Benton, a former Paul campaign manager who is now helping to lead a super PAC that will be supporting his candidacy.

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The most recent flareup came on Sunday, when Graham, appearing on Fox News, said Paul’s “foreign policy is to the left of President Obama.” He added that any Republican candidate would have struck a better Iran deal than Obama. “Except maybe Rand Paul.”

Appearing on the same network just minutes after he formally declared himself a candidate for president, Paul was asked about Graham’s comments. He chuckled. “Well, almost anyone in the Congress would better defend the Bill of Rights than this particular senator,” he said. “So touché.”

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #8668 on:** April 10, 2015, 01:15:45 PM »

Lindsey Graham throwing that shade.

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"Putting wood on him"

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Great Rumbler · « **Reply #8669 on:** April 10, 2015, 01:16:49 PM »

Graham actually thinks he might have a chance.

huckleberry · « **Reply #8670 on:** April 10, 2015, 02:30:15 PM »

Graham is one of the mushiest turds in the bowl and has been for some time.

benjipwns · « **Reply #8671 on:** April 10, 2015, 04:31:45 PM »

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/238366-bachmann-obamas-foreign-policy-virtually-guarantees-wwiii

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Former Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) on Wednesday said President Obama’s friendly overtures toward Cuba and Iran could eventually spark a global war.

“This virtually guarantees, in my opinion, World War III, and I think that alone would qualify Barack Obama for being the worst president that the United States has ever had to endure,” she said in an interview with "NewsTalk Florida."

“You can get economics wrong, and you can turn it around,” Bachmann added. “Where we have problems decades into the future are disasters with foreign policy.”

Bachmann, a 2012 GOP presidential candidate, called Obama’s diplomatic approach to longtime U.S. enemies “the worst part” of his presidency.

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The ex-congresswoman said those actions had strengthened terrorists. She said that, overall, Obama’s Middle East decisions were “pro-jihad” and “anti-Christian” blunders.

“This president, Barack Obama, has been almost just heartless and bloodless, when it comes to the persecution of Christians and Jews across the world,” Bachmann argued.

“He has been the best friend of the terrorist,” she charged. “I don’t mean that in a flip way, but his actions and rhetoric have been such that he has dated the rise of the goals of terrorists across the world.”

Bachmann said a nuclear-armed Iran was a graver threat than even the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS) that the president did not understand.

“But the biggest problem of all is Iran, and that’s where we need to focus because Iran cannot get a nuclear weapon, and that’s why it’s imperative that this Congress wake up and hold this president accountable,” Bachmann urged.

benjipwns · « **Reply #8672 on:** April 10, 2015, 07:50:36 PM »

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/04/10/obama_on_advice_he_would_give_to_2008_obama_i_should_have_warned_the_american_people_would_take_some_time_for_economy_to_recover.html

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"I’m going to stay a little bit off the politics for a bit. And I’ve witnessed your journey a lot, and the question is kind of two-part. If you go back and give yourself one piece of advice before the start of you 2008 term, what would it be?" Brian Lumley, a chef, asked the president.

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The president, reminding people he took office while "we were going through the worst global financial crisis since the 1930s," said, "what I would have probably advised was that I might have needed to warn the American people and paint a picture for them that was more accurate about the fact that it would take some time to dig ourselves out of a very big hole."

Obama said he wished he was did a better job at "describing [the economy] in ways that people understood."

"I think I would have advised myself to do a better job spending more time not just getting the policy right, but also describing it in ways that people understood, that gave them confidence in their own future," Obama said. "I think that would probably be the most important advice that I would have given myself."

Also:

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PRESIDENT OBAMA: All right, it’s a gentleman’s turn. This gentleman right here. He looks very serious; he’s got glasses. Looking sharp. Plus, he’s got a copy of my book. So he’s clearly a wise man.

QUESTION: Thank you very much. My name is Chef Brian Lumley -- I’m a young Jamaican chef here.
And I own a restaurant -- 689 by Brian Lumley. Just saying.

My question to you -- I’m going to stay a little bit off the politics for a bit. And I’ve witnessed your journey a lot, and the question is kind of two-part. If you go back and give yourself one piece of advice before the start of you 2008 term, what would it be? And the second part is if you can sign this book when you’re finished. Thank you very much.

PRESIDENT OBAMA: I’ll sign the book. So the question was, for those couldn’t hear: If I were to go back and give myself advice before I started in 2008, what would the advice be?

I suppose I could have started dying my hair earlier -- (laughter) -- so then people wouldn’t say, man, he’s getting old. You’re going like this -- at least I got hair, man.

benjipwns · « **Reply #8673 on:** April 10, 2015, 09:52:09 PM »

Kara · « **Reply #8674 on:** April 10, 2015, 10:01:59 PM »

"Darkness" eh.

benjipwns · « **Reply #8675 on:** April 10, 2015, 10:47:21 PM »

The best part about an Alan Keyes party is an Alan Keyes party don't stop: http://www.wnd.com/2015/04/is-iran-deal-part-of-obama-3rd-term-scheme/

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #8676 on:** April 11, 2015, 12:19:00 AM »

Quote from: benjipwns on April 10, 2015, 10:47:21 PM

The best part about an Alan Keyes party is an Alan Keyes party don't stop: http://www.wnd.com/2015/04/is-iran-deal-part-of-obama-3rd-term-scheme/

If only Obama was a Real Red-Blooded American Man like these ~~hipsters~~ "lumbersexuals".

http://www.wnd.com/2015/04/meet-the-lumbersexuals-men-who-just-wanna-be-men/

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #8677 on:** April 11, 2015, 12:26:22 AM »

I wish I could find some of the "Bush will attack Iran to ensure a third term" articles that popped up on Common Dreams and other sites back in 2007/2008.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #8678 on:** April 11, 2015, 04:41:10 PM »

https://instagram.com/p/1UIlvODL1k/

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #8679 on:** April 11, 2015, 07:15:53 PM »

What's the big deal about two socialist dictators shaking hand?

brob · « **Reply #8680 on:** April 11, 2015, 07:40:18 PM »

smh, obama's embrace game is trash tier compared to the kerrbear

Barry Egan · « **Reply #8681 on:** April 12, 2015, 04:57:51 PM »

scurred AiA?

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #8682 on:** April 12, 2015, 05:23:36 PM »

benjipwns · « **Reply #8683 on:** April 12, 2015, 07:58:32 PM »

Quote from: brob on April 11, 2015, 07:40:18 PM

smh, obama's embrace game is trash tier compared to the kerrbear

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"guess i'll hug him that's what they do, and ooh, is this silk, this is really nice silk, feels so good on the face imagine bedsheets like this, after the wind surfing and having to listen to Teresa to just rub your face in this and...what? oh sorry, yes to the podiums to give my speech"

thisismyusername · « **Reply #8684 on:** April 12, 2015, 08:28:26 PM »

https://twitter.com/macleanbrendan/status/587389473991688192

I really want to see a campaign ad like this from Hillary.

benjipwns · « **Reply #8685 on:** April 12, 2015, 11:38:02 PM »

The Greatest Secretary of State in American History is not running for President: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/john-kerry-praises-hillary-clinton-plans-avoid-hurly/story?id=30261309

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #8686 on:** April 13, 2015, 09:35:51 AM »

Quote from: Esch on April 13, 2015, 09:35:05 AM

hey did you hear that Hillary is running for pre-

omg no way

benjipwns · « **Reply #8687 on:** April 13, 2015, 09:42:25 AM »

Quote from: Esch on April 13, 2015, 09:35:05 AM

hey did you hear that Hillary is running for pre-

this is a hoax chain letter, please stop spreading it, people may be giving over their credit card information

do your part, delete all your e-mails

benjipwns · « **Reply #8688 on:** April 13, 2015, 09:44:58 AM »

Oh, and leave your implausible suicide setups in Fort Marcy Park.

sarslip · « **Reply #8689 on:** April 13, 2015, 10:58:16 AM »

Quote from: Barry Egan on April 12, 2015, 04:57:51 PM

scurred AiA?

dem demographic ticks!

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #8690 on:** April 13, 2015, 03:46:44 PM »

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After Rubio officially became speaker, then-Florida Gov. Jeb Bush presented him with a golden sword called "Chang"—"the sword of a great conservative warrior." Bush elaborated on what the sword meant: Chang is a mystical warrior. Chang is somebody who believes in conservative principles, believes in entrepreneurial capitalism, believes in moral values that underpin a free society. I rely on Chang with great regularity in my public life. He has been by my side, and sometimes I let him down. But Chang, this mystical warrior, has never let me down.

http://nomoremister.blogspot.com/2015/04/the-rubiobush-sword-story-preppiness.html

helios · « **Reply #8691 on:** April 13, 2015, 03:53:15 PM »

Quote from: Joe Molotov on April 13, 2015, 03:46:44 PM

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After Rubio officially became speaker, then-Florida Gov. Jeb Bush presented him with a golden sword called "Chang"—"the sword of a great conservative warrior." Bush elaborated on what the sword meant: Chang is a mystical warrior. Chang is somebody who believes in conservative principles, believes in entrepreneurial capitalism, believes in moral values that underpin a free society. I rely on Chang with great regularity in my public life. He has been by my side, and sometimes I let him down. But Chang, this mystical warrior, has never let me down.

http://nomoremister.blogspot.com/2015/04/the-rubiobush-sword-story-preppiness.html

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #8692 on:** April 13, 2015, 05:42:30 PM »

Quote from: Joe Molotov on April 13, 2015, 03:46:44 PM

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After Rubio officially became speaker, then-Florida Gov. Jeb Bush presented him with a golden sword called "Chang"—"the sword of a great conservative warrior." Bush elaborated on what the sword meant: Chang is a mystical warrior. Chang is somebody who believes in conservative principles, believes in entrepreneurial capitalism, believes in moral values that underpin a free society. I rely on Chang with great regularity in my public life. He has been by my side, and sometimes I let him down. But Chang, this mystical warrior, has never let me down.

http://nomoremister.blogspot.com/2015/04/the-rubiobush-sword-story-preppiness.html

What's the drop rate? I want one.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #8693 on:** April 13, 2015, 06:37:10 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on April 13, 2015, 05:42:30 PM

Quote from: Joe Molotov on April 13, 2015, 03:46:44 PM
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After Rubio officially became speaker, then-Florida Gov. Jeb Bush presented him with a golden sword called "Chang"—"the sword of a great conservative warrior." Bush elaborated on what the sword meant: Chang is a mystical warrior. Chang is somebody who believes in conservative principles, believes in entrepreneurial capitalism, believes in moral values that underpin a free society. I rely on Chang with great regularity in my public life. He has been by my side, and sometimes I let him down. But Chang, this mystical warrior, has never let me down.

http://nomoremister.blogspot.com/2015/04/the-rubiobush-sword-story-preppiness.html

What's the drop rate? I want one.

DPS is wasted on a tank like you

Mandark · « **Reply #8694 on:** April 13, 2015, 06:41:30 PM »

I remember that story. Funny thing is Chang = Chiang Kai-shek, and it's an outgrowth of Bush Sr. using the phrase "unleash Chiang" in tennis games.

From a memoir about George HW Bush written by his daughter Doro:

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By the way, he still uses a phrase in his tennis games that he picked up in China: "unleash Chiang"--a reference to Chiang Kai Shek, the nationalist leader exiled on Taiwan--as slang for Let's start this game and serve the big one. He had a bit of a weak serve, and it was his way of making fun of it: Time to unleash Chiang!

"Picked up in China" means during Bush's time as the ambassador to the PRC in the 70's, so it's almost certainly a joke on US hardliners who thought Chiang could retake mainland China if only America would support him. So a sarcastic reference to the ROC gradually morphed into an inspirational mystic Asian warrior.

Kara · « **Reply #8695 on:** April 13, 2015, 06:45:51 PM »

Guess they couldn't smell what the ROC was cooking.

benjipwns · « **Reply #8696 on:** April 13, 2015, 06:47:29 PM »

This whole story coming together.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #8697 on:** April 14, 2015, 12:30:07 AM »

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #8698 on:** April 14, 2015, 12:39:32 AM »

STONE
COLD
BURN

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #8699 on:** April 14, 2015, 01:05:35 AM »

I like how Mika came through with some decent but ultimately not fatal attacks, then that nerdy ass looking dude tag teamed in with the actual ether.

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