US Politics Thread |OT| THE DARKEST TIMELINE

[Joe Molotov]

We have our first casualty of the race.



Rick Perry's glasses are still looking for a VP nom, tho.

[Phoenix Dark]

Wow. I thought he'd at least get some PAC money to last through Iowa/NH.

[Great Rumbler]

I'm surprised that anyone from the loser debate other than Carly Fiorina is still bothering to continue their campaign.

[Kara]

RIPerry

[Brehvolution]

I'm surprised anyone would work for Perry's campaign.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

I would like to take this time to point out I fucking hate The Don and will vote for a liberal before I ever voted for him.

[Human Snorenado]

I would like to take this time to point out I fucking hate The Don and will vote for a liberal before I ever voted for him.

Man I hope we get to hold you to that next November

[Am_I_Anonymous]

I would like to take this time to point out I fucking hate The Don and will vote for a liberal before I ever voted for him.

Man I hope we get to hold you to that next November

I'll take a goddamn selfie. Trust me that dude is nothing but trouble for minorities.

[Great Rumbler]

There really does need to be a unified front against this fake and corrupt blowhard, but the news organizations are doing two things they love doing by extending this trainwreck - making money and helping provide cover for Democrats they want to win.

Fox News, Limbaugh, and Breitbart are doing more to prop up Trump than any "liberal" news outfit.

[Joe Molotov]

I'm surprised anyone would work for Perry's campaign.

A (bro)job's a job in Obama's America.

[Brehvolution]

My local congressman, Tom Reed, said he thinks and he hopes the Jeb gets the nomination. Another Bush

I just can't with these fucking clowns.

[Phoenix Dark]

Trump won't win one primary or caucus. I'd bet a brojob on that. I think he'll drop out before Super Tuesday (sometime in March 2016).

[Am_I_Anonymous]

Trump won't win one primary or caucus. I'd bet a brojob on that. I think he'll drop out before Super Tuesday (sometime in March 2016).

God I hope so but america is so fucked up right now you never know.

[Great Rumbler]

There really does need to be a unified front against this fake and corrupt blowhard, but the news organizations are doing two things they love doing by extending this trainwreck - making money and helping provide cover for Democrats they want to win.

Fox News, Limbaugh, and Breitbart are doing more to prop up Trump than any "liberal" news outfit.

This the same Fox News that held him accountable for his own stupid words at the debate?  Cause they sure as shit did that. 

He didn't do himself any favors for going after them as he did, either, unless he's under the delusion that any other debate venue is going to be more supportive of his hot air and vapid denials.

I guess you missed the latest news that Roger Ailes personally called Trump to apologize and let him know they'd "treat him fairly" from now on.

[studyguy]

The dudes calling for Trump to apologize are just as bad.
Pots, kettles, etc

http://www.nj.com/opinion/index.ssf/2015/08/fox_and_trump_people_who_live_in_crass_houses_shou.html#incart_river

Erick Erickson of the RedState blog responded to Trump's comments by rescinding an invitation for Trump to talk at the group's confab in Atlanta over the weekend. He justified Trump's exclusion by writing that "there are even lines blunt talkers and unprofessional politicians should not cross."

It's hard to imagine just where those lines could be located when Erickson himself Tweeted  about some feminists who complained about a Super Bowl commercial, "Wow. That's what being too ugly to get a date does to your brain."

 

Also poor Perry.
I guess those glasses really didn't do much for him.

[Great Rumbler]

Doesn't change anything I said above.

But it should. Trump is Ailes's monster and the monster is now beyond its creator's control. Megyn Kelley did her absolute best to put him down, but couldn't do it, and now Ailes is too afraid to let her or anybody else try again, lest he fall under the monster's baleful glare himself.

he was a raging jackass that the crowd hated.

Yeah, sorry, that's completely false. The crowd ate it up and the polls since then reflect that.

[Great Rumbler]

Well see, you say that, but it doesn't.

Unless you're under some delusion CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, et al are going to also play nice because Ailes caved and wants the money from ratings from Trump antics?

Are you under the impression that pointed question from the "liberal media" are going to damage Trump's standing with hardline conservatives? Face it, you guys have to kill Trump yourselves, don't depend on us liberals to do it for you.

So you didn't watch the debate and you're telling someone who did what happened?  Awesome, cool story bro.  Make up some more things while you're at it.

I did watch it. A few of his lines got some boos, and just as many got thunderous applause. But that's beside the point. If he really did that badly, his poll numbers would be caving right now, but they're not. They're either holding where they were or even ticking up a bit. Trump's not going anywhere anytime soon short of him just completely losing interest in the election.

[Great Rumbler]

I just wanna say that, so far, Trump's campaign has been the greatest gift I could ever ask for.

[Shadow Mod]

Denying Trumps success...

 

[Am_I_Anonymous]

The hero PD and I deserve.....

[VomKriege]

https://twitter.com/marcorubio/status/630831040592936960

[Shadow Mod]

 

[VomKriege]

Also, I clicked by accident on the "click here (to send your email to Marco Rubio for President)" on that, so my SO is now in Rubio's listing.

She's gonna be  on me for this L  :'( .

EDIT : You can only unsubscribe at the bottom of one of the campaign emails, like spam. 

[Shadow Mod]

Also, I clicked by accident on the "click here (to send your email to Marco Rubio for President)" on that, so my SO is now in Rubio's listing.

She's gonna be  on me for this L  :'( .

The good news is you found a relatively harmless way of fucking with someone.

[Kara]

omg cute kitteh :3

[Phoenix Dark]

https://twitter.com/marcorubio/status/630831040592936960

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I find the confidence interesting. The GOP really seems to think the Planned Parenthood videos are going to buy them room to move to the right on abortion, nationally. They won some elections in 2014 despite far right rhetoric on abortion, perhaps they think that's "proof" it'll work in 2016. Against a woman....

Seems like Rubio threw his general election chances in the bushes to win the primary IMO.

[studyguy]

Wasn't the federal funding for PP directed to contraception/women's health anyway?
I thought abortion assistance was all privately funded by PP or at least an incredibly small part of the total funds allocated.

[Shadow Mod]

There are no federal funds to PP for abortion and Obama even made that concession all over again for the ACA.

[Phoenix Dark]

If Obama couldn't stand up to Bart Stupak how can he stand up to Khamenei.

[CatsCatsCats]

We need to stop taking JD seriously, if met with a calm salient point he just ignores it in favor of playing the name calling game

[studyguy]

Wasn't the federal funding for PP directed to contraception/women's health anyway?
I thought abortion assistance was all privately funded by PP or at least an incredibly small part of it.

Are you familiar with the concept of fungibility?

The whole thing about another federal dollar in the PP pocket is a dollar left on the table for abortion?
Is that the whole crux of the argument?

[Kara]

Restricted net assets are a nonprofit accounting sleight of hand.

[Phoenix Dark]

eagerly awaiting videos of a PP accountant explaining that

[CatsCatsCats]

We need to stop taking JD seriously, if met with a calm salient point he just ignores it in favor of playing the name calling game

Aren't you the guy who doesn't know the difference between an organism and the content of your own orgasms?

Did you expect for me to spend much time on you after that?  If so, lulz.

If you thought I seriously thought my ejaculate was murder and I wasn't just mocking your murder tone, the point sailed far above your head.

[Joe Molotov]

I wish human life could become a cat.

[Shadow Mod]

I wish human life could become a cat.

Who says it can't.

[Phoenix Dark]

I'd rather abort a human than a cat.

[CatsCatsCats]

Your argument of non-aggression seems short sighted to me. In my view it's highly irresponsible to create a situation in which more unwanted children are carried to term without any means for them to be cared for, and that morally it creates more human suffering than terminating a life before it suffers and strains the resources of society, statistically having a higher chance of turning to a life crime and creating even more suffering.

JD plz respond -- do you see the individual as above the whole?

I understand the difference and am totally okay with killing unconscious, partially formed humans to better humanity.

[Steve Contra]

Studyguy no!!!!!  Pull out before we have to abort this whole thread.

[Kara]

eagerly awaiting videos of a PP accountant explaining that

I'll go undercover, get some of those sweet Breitbart dollars and escape to Rio de Janeiro where everyone wears white pants without exception.

[Phoenix Dark]

I guess Mandark is on injured reserve today because studyguy is starting for him.

[Shadow Mod]

Contract killing. lol.

More like self-defense.

[studyguy]

I guess Mandark is on injured reserve today because studyguy is starting for him.

Feel like you guys are grossly overestimating my investment in this discussion.
Tapped out at a joke of PP being a modern day Houdini, making our tax dollars and babies disappear.

[CatsCatsCats]

So it boils down to you thinking the rights of the unborn trump the needs and limitations of society. You're more concerned with your personal moral stances than the stability and longevity of the whole. That's short sighted and small thinking, but okay. I see no further reason to engage you on this.

[Joe Molotov]

I guess Mandark is on injured reserve today because studyguy is starting for him.

Mandark pulled out early and is now on trial for murder in Libertarian Court.

[Shadow Mod]

Contract killing. lol.

More like self-defense.

I have seen others make this argument.  They were dumbasses, too.

By all means, try to explain how killing someone objectively helpless and innocent, physically incapable of attacking anyone, can be "self-defense."

Let me guess, "they was coming right fer us?"

I guess in your world women don't die in childbirth.

[Shadow Mod]

And in your completely warped view, in these cases, this is because the kid attacked them?

Sure thing, Tywin.

You got issues dude.

[CatsCatsCats]

It's reductionist, but yes I believe in the oneness of humanity and that the betterment of the whole is the highest measure of morality. We're all interconnected, to deny that is to see only partial truth. If we had a society in which any child born actually had a realistically equal chance to thrive and contribute positively, I would probably be able to agree that at least low risk pregnancies be carried to term. We don't.

[Shadow Mod]

Women can still die due to complications even if the pregnancy is labeled "low-risk." One of my pals is basically on duty to help babysit a cousin because her mother died in childbirth. It's a real and possible outcome. I couldn't give a fuck less about any other argument honestly. Letting a woman not carry an embryo to term can save her life.

[Shadow Mod]

Not wanting to die.

Emotionalism.

Like I said earlier, you got issues.

[brawndolicious]

Trump doesn't need most conservatives to like him in order to win the nomination, he just needs a plurality. The sad truth is when it's early in the primary season and there are 3+ serious contenders for the nomination on the ballot, he could get some states.

At the moment, a quarter or so of Republicans being polled like him and you have to assume they won't settle for anyone remotely more...uh human in the primaries but most likely, he won't have a long term impact beyond making the other candidates pull to the right on issues like immigration.

However, don't forget that he is considering running as an independent and could fuck some shit up and take 10% of the votes that Hillary didn't have a chance of getting anyways.

[mormapope]

Why the fuck should you care about a stranger's kid to begin with? Honestly. People that are anti abortion come off as having a hero complex, people that feel emotionally uplifted that they give life a chance, no matter what! Truth is, how much do you think about children and how they live? How they learn, how they grow? The dogshit they're fed in schools?

Wow, you think about kids for maybe three minutes out of the day if you don't children or don't work in an industry revolving around them. Standing up for possible existences that barely make a dent in your day, especially if you are a dude, is far more emotional than letting a woman opt of cancelling something that never had perspective.

[CatsCatsCats]

Women can still die due to complications even if the pregnancy is labeled "low-risk." One of my pals is basically on duty to help babysit a cousin because her mother died in childbirth. It's a real and possible outcome. I couldn't give a fuck less about any other argument honestly. Letting a woman not carry an embryo to term can save her life.

Yeah, I see how my comment about low risk pregnancies is problematic and certainly support the right to choose in the real world.

[mormapope]

Why is a hitman being hired any of your business?

[Steve Contra]

y r u guys arguing with jd?

[mormapope]

Is this a serious question?  Are you an anarchist?

I'm not the antichrist.

[Great Rumbler]

It is a bit ironic that in the case JayDubya is all for taking the ability to make decision about a medical procedure away from the patient and doctor and then handing it off to the State. Just sayin'.

[brawndolicious]

y r u guys arguing with jd?

Yeah, if he doesn't have children already then what exactly is the point? Like as a true believer, he's going to be abstinent with any woman who is not trying to get pregnant so it's not like he could ever stick to his morals and also be in a position to pressure someone to give birth to a child they don't want. I think that's why I've gotten into debates on just about every social issue except abortion.

I guess I'm more clever than anyone who has gotten into an abortion debate.

[Great Rumbler]

aggressive homicides

But what about passive-aggressive homicides? Are those still cool?

[Shadow Mod]

I wonder how many times my body has aborted without my knowledge. I guess I'll never know.