US Politics Thread |OT| THE DARKEST TIMELINE

[benjipwns]

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/philadelphia-76ers-throw-shade-presidential-candidate-john-kasich/story?id=34679991

Speaking today a small town hall in Manchester, New Hampshire, Kasich said he ran into the basketball team at his hotel this morning.

"How did I know who they were?” he said. “They were really tall, okay.”

He told the business-focused crowd about the importance of job skills, then jokingly added that the 76ers haven’t had too many skills of their own lately.

"The reason why some of them make a lot of money is because they have skills,” he said. "Not too many Sixers have had that many skills lately, but they do."

 

[benjipwns]

Various scientific surveys of Iraqi deaths resulting from the first four years of the Iraq War estimated that between 151,000 to over one million Iraqis died as a result of conflict during this time. A later study, published in 2011, estimated that approximately 500,000 Iraqis had died as a result of the conflict since the invasion. Counts of deaths reported in newspapers collated by projects like the Iraq Body Count project found 174,000 Iraqis reported killed between 2003 and 2013, with between 112,000-123,000 of those killed being civilian noncombatants.

truly reprehensible, indefensible conduct

Hey buddy, that's less than were supposedly dying under sanctions. Another notch for America's rifle stock! 

[Dickie Dee]

[Kara]

Various scientific surveys of Iraqi deaths resulting from the first four years of the Iraq War estimated that between 151,000 to over one million Iraqis died as a result of conflict during this time. A later study, published in 2011, estimated that approximately 500,000 Iraqis had died as a result of the conflict since the invasion. Counts of deaths reported in newspapers collated by projects like the Iraq Body Count project found 174,000 Iraqis reported killed between 2003 and 2013, with between 112,000-123,000 of those killed being civilian noncombatants.

truly reprehensible, indefensible conduct

Hey buddy, that's less than were supposedly dying under sanctions. Another notch for America's rifle stock! 

The day I realized that my government had been killing Iraqi people for most of my life was one of those metaphorical gut punches.

[Samson Manhug]

Why do you do this to yourself, Walrus?

[Phoenix Dark]

Jeb Bush “will attend a finance meeting this weekend in Houston convened by former President George H. W. Bush and attended by Bush’s brother, former President George W. Bush,” CBS News has learned.

“The session, designed to assess where Bush’s candidacy stands in the face of large-scale staff cutbacks and underwhelming poll numbers, will also be attended by Bush’s mother, Barbara Bush. The governor’s campaign confirmed the meeting will be held Sunday and Monday.”

http://politicalwire.com/2015/10/23/bush-to-hunker-down-with-family-to-assess-bid/

[Brehvolution]

I've seen it said it is because Jeb doesn't have the family courtesy of a Clinton or Obama family to clean his shit up.

[Oblivion]

You know, the craziest thing about the Benghazi Witch Project was that Gowdy and his idiot colleagues seemed legitimately shocked that they fucked up so bad. I mean, really? You goons had no organization, no coordination, no actual fucking points to any of the shit that you brought up, including the "new" evidence, which in many cases wasn't new at all, but rather re-packaged to appear new. And yet you goobers are shocked that you weren't able to get Hillary to confess that she ordered the hit on Ambassador Stevens?

This reminds of that other wonderful moment in politics where Diamond Joe went up against the golden Boy of the GOP during the debates. After having his balls washed by not just Republicans, but mainstream pundits and commentators as well, for being the premiere "serious thinker" of the Republican party, Paul Ryan really did seem to fool himself into thinking that he was in fact the teenage prodigy that everyone held him up to be. And so the boy genius went into the debates thinking that he would easily make short work of the buffanooish Vice President, only to realize that while speaking in complete sentences might have qualified him to be considered "gifted" among Republicans, it would do him no favors against anyone outside that sphere. He learned that while he could brag about being the tallest midget, at the end of the day, he was still a midget.

And I feel that that's what happened during the lead up to the hearing yesterday. Republicans (once again) fooled themselves into thinking that the reason they hadn't caught Hillary was not because they didn't have squat on her, but because Darrel Issa was doing an incompetent job investigating her. So this Trey Gowdy jackass comes onto the scene and Republicans and the mainstream media start praising him as the "serious" and "competent" prosecutor with years of experience who would be able to succeed where Issa failed. Just like with Ryan, Gowdy probably let this newfound laudation go to his head, and probably figured he'd have Hillary in handcuffs before lunchtime.

Of course, also like Ryan, Gowdy failed to realize that a flat earther with a PhD in geology, is still, in fact a flat-earther.

[Phoenix Dark]

On one hand I want to say they were prepared and there was clear organization and plotting going on, from the fundraising to the steady leak of information. But the actual main event was a dud. It was like giving good post fight interviews and then getting knocked out in the first round.

The problem with a lot of this shit is that it's clear republicans are still taking marching orders from the base, who still believes Clinton not only let four Anericans die, she watched it all on a live feed. These people are insane and facts do not penetrate them, yet elected officials continue to cater to them. A lot of the questions reminded me of officials who say Obama doesn't understand America. Without outright saying it, they're affirming views of the base: Obama isn't American, hates America, and is not a legitimate president. Likewise the insinuations in that hearing were based on equally insane base views on Clinton: she let our boys die, she didn't care, she covered it up, etc. How can you possibly operate while giving that nonsense so much credence?

BTW these people people she'll have to work with when/if she becomes president. Nothing is gonna get done....

[Kara]

I wasn't going to vote for Hillary Clinton, but now that I know that she values life in a logical manner (i.e. prioritizing persons without secure access to life's essentials over Americans employed in the public sector) I just might do so.

And I thought ISideWith was bonkers for saying I had more in common with the Democratic Party than the Socialist even though I said the banking and energy sectors of the economy should be nationalized.

[HyperZoneWasAwesome]

that Planned Parenthood inquisition went pretty much the same way.

Fer crying out loud. I'm liberal and I could have posited more damaging questions for Hilary and PP then those morons came up with. People like this almost make you appreciate Cheney and co., they might have been evil, but at least they weren't stupid and evil.

[Human Snorenado]

To further the boxing metaphor, this was the first Liston vs. Ali fight all over again. The media had invested in the narrative of the establishment champ- Gowdy was a tough prosecutor, Clinton had serial ethics issues, etc etc. The worm turned before the fight on this one, though- McCarthy shit the bed and gave up the game before the bell rang. It became evident to everyone that this was just a show fight, and that the committee could never actually beat Clinton, because they didn't have anything on her. Liston could never beat Ali, because despite the fact that he hit like a freight train, Ali was too fucking fast to be HIT, and could dish out in return while never being seriously hit. Hillary Clinton isn't the Greatest, but having her go up against that bunch of fucking idiots was like putting Ali in his prime in the ring with fucking Thurman Merman from Bad Santa. The outcome was never really in doubt.

[Samson Manhug]

These morons in Gowdy's committee were so bent on proving that Hillary is an unfeeling, ambition-crazed schemer bent on riding gleefully to the White House on the corpses of Benghazi victims that they ended up making her look like the one thing she really isn't, at least not very often: a regular person.

[VomKriege]

that Planned Parenthood inquisition went pretty much the same way.

Fer crying out loud. I'm liberal and I could have posited more damaging questions for Hilary and PP then those morons came up with. People like this almost make you appreciate Cheney and co., they might have been evil, but at least they weren't stupid and evil.

Every Republican I read about those days seems like a total moron with the most childish approach to politics that have turned the GOP in a fringe party more willing to impede governement than participate if they don't get their way. Is there any big picture thinking going on there or has that been deffered to the Koch and other backers ?

[Phoenix Dark]

To further the boxing metaphor, this was the first Liston vs. Ali fight all over again. The media had invested in the narrative of the establishment champ- Gowdy was a tough prosecutor, Clinton had serial ethics issues, etc etc. The worm turned before the fight on this one, though- McCarthy shit the bed and gave up the game before the bell rang. It became evident to everyone that this was just a show fight, and that the committee could never actually beat Clinton, because they didn't have anything on her. Liston could never beat Ali, because despite the fact that he hit like a freight train, Ali was too fucking fast to be HIT, and could dish out in return while never being seriously hit. Hillary Clinton isn't the Greatest, but having her go up against that bunch of fucking idiots was like putting Ali in his prime in the ring with fucking Thurman Merman from Bad Santa. The outcome was never really in doubt.

Furthering this metaphor, dont you mean Gowdy was paid off to let Hillary win?

[Samson Manhug]

Jeb!'s paleo diet is working so well his shirts don't fit anymore

[Samson Manhug]

Jeb's already checked out mentally, it's just a matter of time now.



https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/657954623202963456

[Phoenix Dark]

I think a lot of us are right. It just doesn't seem like he wants to be president. He expected a coronation and stiff armed Romney out of running. Since then he has been a disaster. My mom put it perfectly: no regular person hops out of bed thinking "I can't wait to help Jeb Bush become president." People are doing that every day for Hillary, Bernie, Cruz, Carson, even Trump. But Jeb? The only people who give a fuck are millionaires and billionaires, as his campaign finance reports show.

More Trump on Jeb: "Bush has no money. He's meeting today with mommy and daddy and they're working on their campaign."

[Great Rumbler]

From the looks of the polls, it seems like Rubio is quickly taking over as the establishment's preferred candidate. If Carson or Trump flame out sometime soon, I could easily see him picking up the bulk of those people instead of Jeb.

[Oblivion]

[Kara]

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Geert Wilders looks like hell, sheesh.

[Broseidon]

I was trying to think who they reminded me of

[Phoenix Dark]

BENJI


"Bill Clinton studied at Oxford. Most of his professors described themselves as Marxist-Leninists, or socialists."

[HyperZoneWasAwesome]

from 2012, but its not like they were wrong.

[Kara]

If we can post the National Review itt on the reg I'm going to start posting People's World on the reg.

[Kara]

So for viewers this endless string of mayhem and violence is more akin to browsing the gore section of Tumblr than watching any cohesive, episodic tale.

http://peoplesworld.org/american-horror-story-is-it-worth-checking-in-to-hotel/

CPUSA making fun of Tumblr.

Daily Worker's successor publication writing about American Horror Story.

[Joe Molotov]

It's hard to pick just one!

[Trent Dole]

I LIKE HIM CAUSE HE'S A COMPLETE FUCKING IDIOT JUST LIKE MEEE

[Shadow Mod]

They can stay awake long enough to hear all he has to say 

[Human Snorenado]

Welp, that about wraps it up for Hillary- the Halperin kiss of death

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-10-26/the-most-likely-next-president-is-hillary-clinton

[Madrun Badrun]

Opening with a quote from bloomberg for a bloomberg show

[studyguy]

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It's hard to pick just one!

I feel like I would have expected someone like Huckabee to have that batshit crazy conservative vote down pat going into this election cycle. Color me surprised. Carson's campaign has looked like the equivalent of Mr. Bean in that movie Rat Race where he's only in first after falling asleep cause everyone fucked it up so bad.

[Human Snorenado]

Looks like Orange Julius is serious about finishing up and giving his successor a clean slate, and taking any potential sharp objects away from the lunatic caucus too.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/white-house-congress-budget-debt-ceiling

[Madrun Badrun]

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/lindsey-graham-ben-carson-kill-someone

[Oblivion]

[tiesto]

Welp, that about wraps it up for Hillary- the Halperin kiss of death

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-10-26/the-most-likely-next-president-is-hillary-clinton

Hillary’s team at last is convincing rich Democrats to come around to the super-PAC game. Clinton loyalist Guy Cecil is now topping Priorities USA and he has brought in a new cast of folks to supplement holdovers such as Paul Begala, Jim Messina, and Harold Ickes, all of whom have experience rubbing shoulders with the mega-wealthy and prying seven-figure checks out of their hands. Cecil knows how to leverage hot buttons like the Koch brothers and the threat of more conservative Supreme Court justices and unified GOP control of Washington to maintain momentum and encourage the participation of those previously reluctant to muck about in the big money world that many liberals despise and disdain.

Guy Cecil? This person?

[Joe Molotov]

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"Hello, fellow kids."

[Steve Contra]

I learned Ben Carson was a Seventh Day Adventist.  He makes so much more sense now.

[Steve Contra]

http://loras.edu/About-Loras/News-Events/News/2015/Clinton-Extends-Lead-over-Sanders,-Loras-College-P.aspx

Killary issuing a stand down order on Bernie Sander's campaign.  Seems pretty over at this point, except for white college student tears.

[Joe Molotov]

The only Seventh Day Adventist I've known irl was an elderly lesbian I had as an English professor, and she was p. cool.

[Steve Contra]

I knew a few growing up.  They were totally normal and good students but occasionally they'd say the craziest shit, like shit you never say in public.  Kind of like ol' Ben Carson.

[Kara]

That's always been my experience with LDS too.

[Phoenix Dark]

Same.

Kinda surprised he's doing so well with Evangelicals in Iowa, given what Seventh Day Adventists believe about Evangelicals.

[Brehvolution]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/at-a-gathering-of-bushes-the-focus-turns-to-rubio-as-a-key-opponent/2015/10/26/38786714-7be9-11e5-beba-927fd8634498_story.html?wpmm=1&wpisrc=nl_daily202

In a closed-door strategy briefing, Bush campaign officials detailed numerous contrasts they are seeking to draw with Rubio (R-Fla.) and branded him disparagingly as a “GOP Obama.” An official with a pro-Bush super PAC mentioned Rubio’s name twice in a chat with reporters, despite not being asked about him. And a Bush ally suggested that Rubio should think about resigning from the Senate given his focus on the presidency.

[Phoenix Dark]

Wouldn't a GOP donor be receptive to the idea of a GOP Obama? IE a guy who can actually win an election and get at least a couple years of legislation rammed through before the midterm?

so basically Jeb's argument is W Bush was good, GOP Obama bad 

[benjipwns]

[benjipwns]

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/lindsey-graham-date-sarah-palin

Wow, based on the beer he poured, Graham sure must like giving a lot of head.

[Kara]

The Hobby Lobby clan is under federal investigation for looting artifacts from Iraq to put in their Bible museum, lol.

They shipped stuff by FedEx saying it was worth $300 to get through customs.

Wonder if they'll be able to hide behind their imaginary friend again to get out of following the law.

[Steve Contra]

The Republicans sacrificing Boehner and then having all their crazy leverage taken away right after is so perfect.

[benjipwns]

[Joe Molotov]

"Make me commander-in-chief and THIS CRAP stops!"
~Lindsey Graham

[benjipwns]

Speaking of Bushes and drugs, a throwback:

White House speech-writers thought it was the perfect visual for President Bush's first prime-time address to the nation -- a dramatic prop that would show how the drug trade had spread to the president's own neighborhood.

"This is crack cocaine," Bush solemnly announced, holding up a plastic bag filled with a white chunky substance in his Sept. 5 speech on drug policy. It was "seized a few days ago in a park across the street from the White House . . . . It could easily have been heroin or PCP."

...

In fact, when first contacted by an undercover DEA agent posing as a drug buyer, the teenage suspect seemed baffled by the agent's request.

"Where the {expletive} is the White House?" he replied in a conversation that was secretly tape-recorded by the DEA.

"We had to manipulate him to get him down there," said William McMullan, assistant special agent in charge of DEA's Washington field office. "It wasn't easy."

It's as innocent looking as candy!

[Joe Molotov]

"The #2 on the other side went to the Soviet Union for his honeymoon, and I'm not sure if he ever came back."

Lindsey dropping sick berns on Sanders. 

[Joe Molotov]

lmao this whole thing is hilarious

Question about Coors Beer. Santorum spends a minute thanking Colorado for voting for him in 2012. Also beer companies are merging because of Obamacare.

[benjipwns]

I like how serious the moderators are taking it, and the time limits. Like they're trying out to be moderators in the higher tier debate.

[Phoenix Dark]

@TheRickWilson

Man oh man, the dumb, pre-planned move a certain campaign is about to make in the big debate is campaign-ending stupid.

bets? I'm gonna go with Chris Christie.

[Joe Molotov]

Jindal: "Just ask yourself, are you better off than you are 7 years ago?"

Uhhhhh................

[benjipwns]

@TheRickWilson

Man oh man, the dumb, pre-planned move a certain campaign is about to make in the big debate is campaign-ending stupid.

bets? I'm gonna go with Chris Christie.

Huckabee.

Jeb!? is second choice.

[Steve Contra]

Jindal: "Just ask yourself, are you better off than you are 7 years ago?"

Uhhhhh................

Did he really fucking say that

[Joe Molotov]

Jindal: "Just ask yourself, are you better off than you are 7 years ago?"

Uhhhhh................

Did he really fucking say that

Yep.

He also bragged about how he closed charity hospitals to cut state spending in Louisiana. Just a great guy, really.