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[benjipwns]

i want my country back

[Phoenix Dark]

[benjipwns]

http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/11/21/cancel-the-debate-cnn-caught-selectively-editing-trumps-muslim-comments/

Cancel the Debate! CNN Caught Selectively-Editing Trump’s ‘Muslim’ Comments

Left-wing cable news network CNN has been caught red-handed selectively editing Republican presidential frontrunner Donald Trump’s comments about a “Muslim registry,” and doing so in order to make it sound as though he is agreeing to this registry. He is not.

The edited video is yet another lying log on the left-wing garbage fire that is CNN, and yet in just three weeks, this very same garbage fire is hosting the next Republican presidential debate!

What exactly does CNN have to do in order to lose its right to depose these candidates for two hours in front of the whole world? If CNN is already maliciously editing video to “take out” out the frontrunner, I don’t even want to speculate.

...

It is time for Reince Priebus and the Republican Party to stand up these left-wing hit squads disguising themselves as journalists.

CNN should not be allowed within a country mile of a GOP debate.

How many more warning signs does the Republican Party need to realize that this is a suicide mission?

Do we want to win in 2016, or not?

[benjipwns]

Honest, trustworthy, personality and temperament:

[Joe Molotov]

Hasn't David's willie already got him in enough trouble?

[brob]

https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video/CUZKsBWWcAAAruO.mp4

u can tell they'd make a good ticket, jeb! has a real good embittered subordinate act.

[HyperZoneWasAwesome]

last Jindal lolz.

the next GOP debate on CNN would have likely included Jindal due to their now favorability of early state polling. Bobby just had to hang on a little while longer.

[ToxicAdam]

David Vitter looks like that dude who builds tree houses.

[Barraco Barner]

last Jindal lolz.

the next GOP debate on CNN would have likely included Jindal due to their now favorability of early state polling. Bobby just had to hang on a little while longer.

And then there’s Gov. Bobby Jindal, whose relationship with Vitter is worse than it is with Democrats in the state. Jindal announced he was abandoning his quixotic presidential race just as Vitter was going on the air with an ad highlighting the Paris terrorist attacks. Observers in the state see the abrupt decision as not-so-subtle pay back for Vitter’s decision to hold a press conference admitting to visiting prostitutes the same day Jindal announced his bid for governor in 2007.

Then on Wednesday afternoon, Jindal floated a new budget plan, a move that further sucked up the political oxygen Vitter’s campaign desperately needs. A press conference on the refugee crisis originally planned to be held in front of the Catholic Charities’ refugee assistance office was scraped at the last minute in favor of one focused on the budget on the state capitol’s front steps.

Vitter may have been seeing a shift in voter sentiments, “but then Bobby Jindal parachuted in,” said Edward Chervenak, director of the Survey Research Center at the University of New Orleans.

You're welcome Dems

[benjipwns]

David Vitter looks like that dude who builds tree houses.

Everything about his facial expressions in this video makes me uncomfortable for some reason:

[Phoenix Dark]

His wife definitely took the L. Probably thought ok I'll stick with this fuckboy for the children and because he could be governor in a decade or so. Now the kids are grown and her husband is a loser. Won't be running for re-election next year either. Divorce his ass, ma'am.

Pretty sure he was the only republican in the state who could lose that race lol.

[Madrun Badrun]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34131429

Response to the US getting close the the south china sea islands a few weeks back?

[CajoleJuice]

Honest, trustworthy, personality and temperament:
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Jeb! barely beating out Other/No Opinion.

[Samson Manhug]

This tweet made me wonder if I've ever been retweeted just to point out how dumb/horrible I am 

[Mandark]

That "whites killed by blacks" stat is such an amazingly brazen lie, too.  Sheesh.

[Steve Contra]

Wait, can someone decode that tweet for me?  What are the percentages?

[Samson Manhug]

The percentages don't matter—statistics for 2015 wouldn't be released yet by the San Fransisco Crime Statistics Bureau (even if it did exist.)

[Steve Contra]

Never mind I got it.  Yeah, total bullshit.

[Phoenix Dark]

That "whites killed by blacks" stat is such an amazingly brazen lie, too.  Sheesh.

The national white-on-white percentage is something like 80-85% iirc, but that image alleges it's using San Fransisco numbers. Still I'm going to fucking doubt that 81% of white homicides in SF are committed by black people.

edit: and Samson is right lol. 2015 isn't out yet. Trump troll'd

[CajoleJuice]

That "whites killed by blacks" stat is such an amazingly brazen lie, too.  Sheesh.

edit: and Samson is right lol. 2015 isn't out yet. Trump troll'd

And the "San Francisco Crime Statistics Bureau" doesn't exist.

[Shadow Mod]

Seems like you could make some throw away twitter accounts, create some images/graphs that reinforce a racist/sexist/bigoted position and dudes like Trump and those anti-PP nonces would readily broadcast it nationally. I think I found my alterego of chaos.

[Joe Molotov]

That "whites killed by blacks" stat is such an amazingly brazen lie, too.  Sheesh.

edit: and Samson is right lol. 2015 isn't out yet. Trump troll'd

And the "San Francisco Crime Statistics Bureau" doesn't exist.

The distinguished African-American fellow with a do-rag and a gun turned sideways begs to differ. His pants don't appear to be sagging tho, so it's still possible it could be fake.

[VomKriege]

Whack on whack stats.

[CajoleJuice]

Whack on whack stats.

 

[jakefromstatefarm]

whack on whack off

[ToxicAdam]

I would bring it back, yes. I would bring it back. I think waterboarding is peanuts compared to what they'd do to us," Trump told "This Week" on ABC. "We have to be strong. You know, they don't use waterboarding over there; they use chopping off people's heads."

Trump also wants mosques "surveiled," he said. "There are certain hot spots, and everybody knows (the mosques) are hot spots," Trump told ABC's George Stephanopoulos.

We need a Trump emoticon.

[VomKriege]

Also he heard thousands cheering in NJ when the WTC went down.

Do actual soul searching will happen at GOP ? Sensible conservatives must realize they are buying their own rope with so many fuckery.

[Samson Manhug]

Yes  :'(

[I'm a Puppy!]

to be fair,
if you really think we're not already surveilling certain mosques you haven't been paying attention at all.

[brawndolicious]

Yeah of course mosques are monitored. I think he basically wants to turn them into fish bowls.

[brob]

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/14/nyregion/appeals-court-reinstates-lawsuit-over-police-surveillance-of-muslims.html

[Am_I_Anonymous]

I would bring it back, yes. I would bring it back. I think waterboarding is peanuts compared to what they'd do to us," Trump told "This Week" on ABC. "We have to be strong. You know, they don't use waterboarding over there; they use chopping off people's heads."

Trump also wants mosques "surveiled," he said. "There are certain hot spots, and everybody knows (the mosques) are hot spots," Trump told ABC's George Stephanopoulos.

We need a Trump emoticon.

[Brehvolution]

It's disgusting to see presidential candidates openly hoping for an attack on US soil so they can take political advantage.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

It's disgusting to see presidential candidates openly hoping for an attack on US soil so they can take political advantage.

Oh you mean like operation Northwoods?

[Phoenix Dark]

If some type of small scale Paris-esque attack happens here under Obama, they'll tear this country apart. We're seeing the window dressing in preparation for it now. "Obama didn't take the threat seriously, now Americans are dead" etc. Tough situation. If you come out and say ISIS is not a threat to the United States and then they pull off some mass shooting...you get crucified by the media and the same politicians who don't give a fuck when white people are doing the mass shootings.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

If some type of small scale Paris-esque attack happens here under Obama, they'll tear this country apart. We're seeing the window dressing in preparation for it now. "Obama didn't take the threat seriously, now Americans are dead" etc. Tough situation. If you come out and say ISIS is not a threat to the United States and then they pull off some mass shooting...you get crucified by the media and the same politicians who don't give a fuck when white people are doing the mass shootings.

I mean I'm not as down on our President as most of my republican friends are but if you really think he's handling this situation well or even adequately....yikes

[Brehvolution]

That certainly is the running narrative, but the notion that the POTUS or any POTUS isn't doing anything to protect American's is just going full distinguished mentally-challenged fellow.

[Human Snorenado]

If some type of small scale Paris-esque attack happens here under Obama, they'll tear this country apart. We're seeing the window dressing in preparation for it now. "Obama didn't take the threat seriously, now Americans are dead" etc. Tough situation. If you come out and say ISIS is not a threat to the United States and then they pull off some mass shooting...you get crucified by the media and the same politicians who don't give a fuck when white people are doing the mass shootings.

I mean I'm not as down on our President as most of my republican friends are but if you really think he's handling this situation well or even adequately....yikes

How so? In what way? Do you just think he should be more belligerent and combative? Or do you think we need boots on the ground?

[Am_I_Anonymous]

If some type of small scale Paris-esque attack happens here under Obama, they'll tear this country apart. We're seeing the window dressing in preparation for it now. "Obama didn't take the threat seriously, now Americans are dead" etc. Tough situation. If you come out and say ISIS is not a threat to the United States and then they pull off some mass shooting...you get crucified by the media and the same politicians who don't give a fuck when white people are doing the mass shootings.

I mean I'm not as down on our President as most of my republican friends are but if you really think he's handling this situation well or even adequately....yikes

How so? In what way? Do you just think he should be more belligerent and combative? Or do you think we need boots on the ground?

I think we've turned enough cheeks at this point and definitely shouldnt alienate France by basically saying "Nah dog, we ain't doing anything more than we are now." which is exactly what he did.

[Phoenix Dark]

Honestly given that I don't really support interventions that have no impact on US security...he hasn't done much to piss me off on this particular issue. The issue is moreso drawing a red line and doing nothing after someone steps over it. But then again should I criticize him for not boxing himself into a corner and doing something I don't support (starting a war with Syria/toppling Assad)? I can't get mad over that, although obviously I understand why people view it as weakness.

We've bombed ISIS thousands of times. Literally. I think we should allow those in the area to handle this, and simply offer the logistics they cannot handle. I don't want ground troops.

Ultimately IMO the best end result is Assad remaining in power, which is infinitely better than a collapsed government/power vacuum for extremists to exploit.

[Samson Manhug]

Ultimately IMO the best end result is Assad remaining in power, which is infinitely better than a collapsed government/power vacuum for extremists to exploit.

He's been in power for the last four years of this conflict. How is this the best end result?

[Rufus]

I think he means "accept that he's in power" and then at the very least stop trying to depose him.

[brob]

Syria might have been better off with Assad deposed prior to (or early into) the drought, but at this point they are thoroughly fucked regardless of who's on top.

[VomKriege]

I think we've turned enough cheeks at this point and definitely shouldnt alienate France by basically saying "Nah dog, we ain't doing anything more than we are now." which is exactly what he did.

As a French living in France, I can assure you it's absolutely not the way it is perceived over here. Anyone with only a passing interest in french military operations know that in Iraq and Syria, the US Army is doing all the heavy lifting and that even in Lybia, the Franco-British joint effort was built on the backbone of the US Army logistics. Without that help it is even doubtful those two countries had the capability to conduct it (at least with this scope and without impairing all their other military commitments). There's no demand here for the USA to carry on with a land invasion, since France is far from even considering such an option for herself.

USA refusing to take in Syrian refugees would do a lot more to alienate all European countries.

I think he means "accept that he's in power" and then at the very least stop trying to depose him.

The realist choice seems to be to deal with the IS first, then to try to force unto him some sort of "decent" political transition.

[Phoenix Dark]

Ultimately IMO the best end result is Assad remaining in power, which is infinitely better than a collapsed government/power vacuum for extremists to exploit.

He's been in power for the last four years of this conflict. How is this the best end result?

End result as in end of the conflict. Assad "winning" is the best option.

[Samson Manhug]

Will there be an Sunnis left in this Syria? Where do they go?

[Am_I_Anonymous]

Will there be an Sunnis left in this Syria? Where do they go?

Apparently Pennsylvania and California as of now.

[Shadow Mod]

Ground troops just means more people coming back with PTSD only to be shat on by our shitty ass VA and lack of support structures for them.

No fucking thanks.

[Phoenix Dark]

Will there be an Sunnis left in this Syria? Where do they go?

We're not talking a perfect solution here. But if I were to ask you a question, what's the alternative? A lot of people are going to die no matter who "wins."

[Mandark]

Yeah, it's odd that the French strikes have been reported/perceived as pretty massive and devastating over here, while lots of people think the US military is doing essentially nothing with ISIL.

[Brehvolution]

 

Who is going over Obama's head to authorize these missions then?

[Phoenix Dark]

that's up there with "Obama didn't want to get Bin Laden but was overruled" Sean Hannity fuckery.

[jakefromstatefarm]

Increased us/coalition involvement was pretty much the reason is' advances stopped in northern syria about a year and a half ago. Russia sent in the clones in September, IS has been consistently losing territory on every front in syria ever since. Kurdish forces/Rojava aren't going anywhere, theyre nato backed and friendly/nonconflicting with russian interests, they will likely have de facto autonomy in whichever state they're a part of when the dust settles. The only pending question is who, between the saa/hezbollah/Ba'athist Alawite particularist Assad government, the Islamist rebel groups -JaN, Jaish al-Fatah, Ahrar ash-Sham, whatevers left of the FSA- and the us-supported SDF/YPG, can carve out the most territory and political capital before people start taking peace talks seriously. So, years.

I can't speak for iraq, to my knowledge all IS controls is al-anbar?

[VomKriege]

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Yeah, it's odd that the French strikes have been reported/perceived as pretty massive and devastating over here, while lots of people think the US military is doing essentially nothing with ISIL.

It's pure political marketing, like the use of the word "intensify" which rings hollow considering the abuse, France is given the spotlight for understandable reasons. Up until recently French activity over the IS was somewhat sparse (and a few months back, limited to Iraq, like most European participants I believe, on account of the shared position of not helping Assad). US contribution is like 80-90% of the Western effort in those massive, extended airstrike campaigns. The aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle being sent on a new mission here is a serious upgrade for the French force, as it adds 26 planes to the 12 stationed over two airstrips nearby. French Air Force totals 230 fighters / fighters bombers approx., so it is a significant commitment (As you may know, Western Europe has discarded strategic bombers from the inventory. Too expensive for no real use). Even then, the french contribution will be a drop in the bucket even if useful (more planes, more boats and more intelligence is good for everyone). I suspect a lot of Americans do not realize, because of the absolutely massive means of the US Armed Forces, just how constrained armies are anywhere else.

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Who is going over Obama's head to authorize these missions then?

[Great Rumbler]

Ben Carson told reporters on Monday that he has seen the news coverage of New Jersey residents cheering after the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks, a debunked rumor resurfaced by Donald Trump over the weekend.

He told reporters in Nevada that he "saw the film" of New Jersey residents cheering, later clarifying that he saw the "newsreels" of the cheering, according to ABC News.

 

[Mandark]

Carson is like the bizarro Snopes at this point.

[Phoenix Dark]

Carson is like the bizarro Snopes at this point.

https://newrepublic.com/minutes/124440/ben-carson-claims-saw-video-american-muslims-celebrating-911-one-piece-evidence-briefing-book-just-printed-chain-emails

the larger question becomes, how did five Israelis take a selfie on 911, before selfies were created? Given Jewish contributions to time travel science (see: Einstein, Eliyahu) we shouldn't be surprised.

[chronovore]

https://twitter.com/pattonoswalt/status/668576082661130240

[Phoenix Dark]

well Bernie just lost the Bore vote. 

[Atramental]

Comic Sans? 

http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/261141-killer-mike-sanders-dine-together-in-atlanta