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[Human Snorenado]

Why don't you want to make America great again, AiA?

[Mandark]

C'mon AIA, you're basically the Bore's Donald Trump.

[Stoney Mason]

Why is Trump still winning?

NH EXIT POLL: 66% of GOP primary voters support banning Muslims from entering the U.S. 

Because one of major parties in our country has a lot of bigots in it.

[Phoenix Dark]

For the record: I think Hillary is going to end up beating Bernie.

However, his candidacy has underlined a weakness: she really doesn't have a message other than "Vote for me! I can fix it! Or not fuck it up!"

Granted, in the general, she's likely to be running against a lunatic, so that may play well. But, I think she thought that she could run on that in the primary too.

Yea she's going to beat him without a major fight IMO as states get more diverse. However I agree her campaign is wack. The sloppy identity politics and general unauthentic Clinton aura aren't good looks, especially in what seems like an anti-establishment year. And young people aren't messing with her at all, not even young women. They simply don't care about her or her last name. Sort of like how GOP voters across all age groups don't care about Jeb.

[Human Snorenado]

Go home, Luca Bratzi. You've done your job.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/christie-break-after-new-hampshire

[brawndolicious]

One thing I always said is that Trump has a strong chance at the nomination, despite what many were saying 6 months ago. And now this is happening. It has to become real for you guys at this point.  But I also thought that once he does get nominated, his supporters would drop him. Since they just want the Republican establishment to know that they're dissatisfied. Which is why I think polls like this make it seem ridiculously close:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

You are not going to have many Republicans showing up in November to vote for Donald Trump. Nor will many independents be interested in Trump's vague plan about making America great. While some say that Sanders is showing that not all women like Hillary, they'll like her a lot more than Trump and once she's nominated you can bet your asses that every single woman from the center to the left is going to get their vote in. They're not going to miss a historical moment. A chance to fuck the patriarchy longer and harder than Trump's bullshit wall.

[Rufus]

Why is Trump still winning?

NH EXIT POLL: 66% of GOP primary voters support banning Muslims from entering the U.S. 

Because one of major parties in our country has a lot of bigots in it.

Ultimately, because first-past-the-post voting systems are irredeemably bad. People don't want to waste votes on condidates unlikely to gain any influence so they pick the next best thing, which in turn leads to parties wanting to cast the widest possible net.

[curly]

Imagine Hillary losing to a geriatric socialist after losing to a black guy named Hussein last time around

It won't happen, but still

Looking forward to the next David Brooks column now that his last vestige of hope has been snatched away. It's gonna be grim.

[brob]

Michelle Alexander goes hard  

[Take My Breh Away]

Funny or Die made a made for TV movie based on Donald Trumps own Autobiography. Staring Johnny Depp as Donald Trump

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/ad38087bac/donald-trump-art-of-the-deal-movie?_cc=__d___&_ccid=2258abc04b02b4c5

This election cycle has made it to new heights of crazy before the candidates are even selected

[Madrun Badrun]

50mins wow

[thisismyusername]

Why is Trump still winning? I hate America,

Am_I_Anonymous 2016: DOESN'T WANT TO MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN. 

Imagine Hillary losing to a geriatric socialist after losing to a black guy named Hussein last time around

God I hope it happens, just for the Hillary stan tears and going "b-b-but misogyny!"

[benjipwns]

[Joe Molotov]

How many delegates did Gary Johnson get in New Hampshire, benji?

[Madrun Badrun]

Better than the black guy on the basketball court.  The seemed to make the female ancher nervous. 

[benjipwns]

Ezra Klein: The rise of Donald Trump is a terrifying moment in American politics

On Monday, Donald Trump held a rally in Manchester, New Hampshire, where he merrily repeated a woman in the crowd who called Ted Cruz a pussy. Twenty-four hours later, Donald Trump won the New Hampshire primary in a landslide.

I'm not here to clutch my pearls over Trump's vulgarity; what was telling, rather, was the immaturity of the moment, the glee Trump took in his "she said it, I didn't" game. The media, which has grown used to covering Trump as a sideshow, delighted in the moment along with him — it was funny, and it meant clicks, takes, traffic. But it was more than that. It was the frontrunner for the Republican nomination for president showing off the demagogue's instinct for amplifying the angriest voice in the mob.

It is undeniably enjoyable to watch Trump. He's red-faced, discursive, funny, angry, strange, unpredictable, and real. He speaks without filter and tweets with reckless abandon. The Donald Trump phenomenon is a riotous union of candidate ego and voter id. America's most skilled political entertainer is putting on the greatest show we've ever seen.

It's so fun to watch that it's easy to lose sight of how terrifying it really is.

[benjipwns]

How many delegates did Gary Johnson get in New Hampshire, benji?

I would assume he didn't even get a vote, Rand got 1800 though. Nine times as many as Huckabee.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Donald Trump is going to be the next President.  There is a huge anti-incumbent sentiment and Hillary is a shit campaigner.  We are also entering into another recession as commodity prices drop and the second tech bubble pops.  Also AIA's track record is as such that his hatred of Trump guarantees his election.

[benjipwns]

https://vine.co/v/ibDF2Qhnw1m

[Steve Contra]

Rubio

[benjipwns]

https://twitter.com/jessicataylor/status/692864501515812864

[Steve Contra]

Wait, is that real?  I fully expect Jim Gilmore to be beating someone's ass with that chain next debate

[brawndolicious]

Donald Trump is going to be the next President.  There is a huge anti-incumbent sentiment and Hillary is a shit campaigner.  We are also entering into another recession as commodity prices drop and the second tech bubble pops.  Also AIA's track record is as such that his hatred of Trump guarantees his election.

I don't know about the last one but why would somebody vote for Trump if the economy slows down? At least Clinton can claim she had some sort of credit in bringing the country out of the Great Recession but Trump's only weapon is a wave of repetitive messaging about what America needs/wants, which Christie showed can easily turn into an Achilles heel if someone really wants to take you down.

I just don't see most undecided voters giving him a chance unless Clinton has a really, really huge scandal.

[benjipwns]

Wait, is that real?  I fully expect Jim Gilmore to be beating someone's ass with that chain next debate

Was for the debate before last, on Jan 28th in Iowa. I doubt Gilmore gets invited to any more debates.

I don't know about the last one but why would somebody vote for Trump if the economy slows down? At least Clinton can claim she had some sort of credit in bringing the country out of the Great Recession

And Trump is a BUSINESSMAN. BILLIONAIRE. LED COMPANIES OUT OF BANKRUPCY. TRUMP! THE APPRENTICE! TRUMP!

Hillary should counter with her cattle futures expertise.

[Brehvolution]

Trump will need more than insults when it comes to debates with whoever wins the dem nom.

[Steve Contra]

I can't believe how badly Rubio gor bodied in the last debate.  I guess Rick Perry's "oops" moment was the only thing comparable last primary season.  if Christie didn't have all the baggage (literal and metaphorical ) dude would've been a real contender.

[Joe Molotov]

How many delegates did Gary Johnson get in New Hampshire, benji?

I would assume he didn't even get a vote, Rand got 1800 though. Nine times as many as Huckabee.

GJ has climbed Mount Everest more times than Rand and Huck, tho.

[benjipwns]

Johnson wasn't even bothering with the Republicans this cycle, he will just be waiting until the LP Convention in May. (Not in Vegas though for some reason.)

The Republicans and Democrats are the only parties authorized to have state-funded/ran primaries.

[Oblivion]

https://vine.co/v/i1E5LTtKwgP

Damn Hillary fans.

[Steve Contra]

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/gop-primaries/268974-fiorina-ends-presidential-campaign

The dream is dead.

[Oblivion]

Okay, I didn't actually see the breakdown of the Republican primary results yesterday besides knowing that Trump won. Rubio actually got FIFTH place? And did worse than JEB?

So much for the establishment boy wonder.

[benjipwns]

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/gop-primaries/268974-fiorina-ends-presidential-campaign

The dream is dead.

Just like her daughter, from marijuana.

[benjipwns]

From one of seventeen to one of seven.

#StillStanding

[Oblivion]

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/gop-primaries/268974-fiorina-ends-presidential-campaign

The dream is dead.

Just like her daughter, from marijuana.

And the baby at Planned Parenthood after its organs were harvested.

[Human Snorenado]

Republicans hate Christie for allowing Obama to come in and help New Jersey during Super Storm Sandy. Apparently he was supposed to tell Obama to go fuck himself and ensure a GWB-above-Katrina optic. This is literally what a lot of them think.

Let's not give these people credit for things they don't deserve

[Human Snorenado]

Okay, I didn't actually see the breakdown of the Republican primary results yesterday besides knowing that Trump won. Rubio actually got FIFTH place? And did worse than JEB?

So much for the establishment boy wonder.

If he'd gotten less than 10 percent, he wouldn't have gotten any delegates. So close.

[I'm a Puppy!]

Looks like Trump was right again. No one wanted to vote for that face.

[Human Snorenado]

Actually, nevermind- looks like due to the way the vote broke down, Rubio got no delegates anyway

[Steve Contra]

 

[benjipwns]

Actually, nevermind- looks like due to the way the vote broke down, Rubio got no delegates anyway

No, he should get more than zero. Some places aren't allocating right.

It is possible that he gets zero though. They do the allocation from the top down IIRC. Kasich and Cruz get rounded up, then allocated delegates.

EDIT: TheGreenPapers has it Trump 11 - Kasich 3 - Cruz 2 - Bush 2 - Rubio 2. Trump's lead is so big and the other four so close that it actually squeezes more delegates to Trump.

[Joe Molotov]

Johnson wasn't even bothering with the Republicans this cycle, he will just be waiting until the LP Convention in May. (Not in Vegas though for some reason.)

The Republicans and Democrats are the only parties authorized to have state-funded/ran primaries.

My original post was supposed to be a joke about people voting in a Libertarian Primary, but now I just feel bad for bringing up the oppression of the two-party system and not even including a trigger warning.

[Steve Contra]

Benji should've stayed in Oregon

[Human Snorenado]

Actually, nevermind- looks like due to the way the vote broke down, Rubio got no delegates anyway

No, he should get more than zero. Some places aren't allocating right.

It is possible that he gets zero though. They do the allocation from the top down IIRC. Kasich and Cruz get rounded up, then allocated delegates.

EDIT: TheGreenPapers has it Trump 11 - Kasich 3 - Cruz 2 - Bush 2 - Rubio 2. Trump's lead is so big and the other four so close that it actually squeezes more delegates to Trump.

Well, let's hope he doesn't, it's more funny that way

[benjipwns]

I find Jeb! beating him good enough. I kinda want everything to loop back around to Jeb! holding that 15% of the primary he did pre-Trump.

[Human Snorenado]

It's official- the Outlaw Jersey Whale is out of the race.

Let's see, we're left with:

Trump
Cruz
Jeb!
Kasich
Robotio
Carson
and Gilmore

Am I missing anyone?

[benjipwns]

Birther and "vexatious litigant" Andy Martin?

He tried to get Cruz and Sanders kicked off the NH ballot. (For being Canadian and an Independent respectively.)

CORRUPTION   ONE OF AMERICA'S LEADING CORRUPTION FIGHTERS
            
BARACK OBAMA   ONE OF OBAMA'S MOST RESPECTED CRITICS AND OPPONENTS   

[Human Snorenado]

Feeling the Bern yet, PD?

http://www.democracynow.org/2016/2/10/ta_nehisi_coates_is_voting_for

I will be voting for Senator Sanders. I have tried to avoid this question, but, yes, I will be voting for Senator Sanders. I try to avoid that, because I want to write as a journalist—do you know what I mean?—and separate that from my role as, I don’t know, a private citizen. But I don’t think much is accomplished by ducking the question. Yes, I will vote for Senator Sanders. My son influenced me.

[benjipwns]

http://www.wsj.com/articles/an-alternative-black-history-month-1455063609

Black History Month, which began as Negro History Week some 90 Februarys ago, was meant to be temporary. Its founder, historian Carter G. Woodson, envisioned a time when black history would be incorporated with American history and no longer require separate recognition. Woodson’s optimism was warranted.

Americans today are led by a black president in the fourth year of his second term. Martin Luther King’s birthday is a national holiday. The likeness of Harriet Tubman or Rosa Parks might soon grace U.S. currency, if the majority of people surveyed prevails. And it has been decades since school curricula excluded black perspectives and accomplishments. Black History Month’s sunset might seem long overdue, but the celebration is too useful politically for that to happen anytime soon.

Woodson died in 1950, a few years before the civil-rights movement found its stride. In the post-1960s era, black leaders turned that movement into a lucrative industry, and Black History Month helps keep them relevant. February is not simply about highlighting the achievements of people like voting-rights activist Fannie Lou Hamer or the Buffalo Soldiers who served in the Spanish-American War.

It is also about using racial identity to advance groupthink and to discourage black individuality. It is about presenting the history of blacks as the history of their victimization by whites up to the present day—which explains racial disparities in areas ranging from school achievement and household income to rates of unemployment, incarceration and single-parent homes.

“There are signs that the Negro has begun to develop a large, strong middle class,” wrote Time magazine in 1953.

You don’t hear much about this black history during Black History Month (or any other month, for that matter) because it undercuts the dominant narrative pushed by the political left and accepted uncritically by the media. The Rev. Al Sharpton and the NAACP have no use for empirical evidence of significant black socioeconomic gains during the Jim Crow era, because they have spent decades insisting that blacks can’t advance until racism has been eliminated. If racism is no longer a significant barrier to black upward mobility and doesn’t explain today’s racial disparities, then blacks may have no use for Mr. Sharpton and the NAACP. The main priority of civil-rights leaders today is self-preservation.

Black nuclear families used to be the norm. Now they are the exception. Jim Crow did less damage to the black family than well-intentioned Great Society programs that discouraged work and marriage and promised more government checks for having more children. But that black history is also kept largely under wraps by those who have a vested interest in blaming the decimation of the black family on slavery and discrimination.

Much of what ought to be studied, duplicated and celebrated in black history is often played down or willfully ignored. And so long as the media allow civil-rights activists and liberal politicians with their own agendas to speak for all blacks, that won’t change.

Mr. Riley, a Manhattan Institute senior fellow and Journal contributor, is the author of “Please Stop Helping Us: How Liberals Make It Harder for Blacks to Succeed” (Encounter Books, 2014).

[Phoenix Dark]

Jim Crow did less damage to the black family than well-intentioned Great Society programs that discouraged work and marriage and promised more government checks for having more children.

[Oblivion]

It's official- the Outlaw Jersey Whale is out of the race.

Let's see, we're left with:

Trump
Cruz
Jeb!
Kasich
Robotio
Carson
and Gilmore

Am I missing anyone?

Wait, Gilmore is still in? 

[Human Snorenado]

Jim Crow did less damage to the black family than well-intentioned Great Society programs that discouraged work and marriage and promised more government checks for having more children.

(Image removed from quote.)

#triggered

[Mandark]

PD, I saw that quote earlier today and almost posted it as a bat-signal for you.

Kind of interested in that particular type of black conservative (think the bunch of book covers benji posted a while ago), who their audience is, how they characterize the effects of the welfare state on black people (vs. how many conservative voters see it), etc.  Instead of trying to organize my thoughts, though, I'm going to eat some cake and pass out.

[Great Rumbler]

who their audience is

White conservatives.

[jakefromstatefarm]

something something Wacquant something something carceral-assistential complex something something symbolic violence

am I helping?

[benjipwns]

[benjipwns]

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/bernie-sanders-regular-luxurious-dscc-fundraising-retreats?cid=sm_fb_msnbc

Sanders was relaxed and seemed happy to be at the events, according to the attendees, and mostly made small talk, largely steering clear of policy. None said they heard him chastise Wall Street banks, pharmaceutical companies or petrochemical companies – his frequent targets on the campaign trail – to the faces of the lobbyists representing those interests, though it’s possible it occurred privately.

Some guests said they were surprised to see the populist crusader at these lavish events and suggested he was probably in it for the free vacation.

:jews

[Phoenix Dark]

There are so many things I want to say but I'm sippin' right now, chilling. Bulleit bourbon is pretty good brehs. BUT

I can humor the argument that Great Society welfare had some negative effects. But I continue to be amazed at the intellectual dishonesty required in order to place all the blame of the black family's destruction on big government. I used to think it could be an issue of obliviousness, ie the uninformed musings of white conservatives who haven't talked to black people. But Thomas Sowell uses the exact same argument all the time.

The reality is that the influx of drugs and the decline of manufacturing jobs devastated inner city black families more than anything else.

ALSO can we ask conservatives why whites, the largest beneficiaries of welfare, have not suffered the same fate? Why is it that welfare destroyed one group while having less of an impact on another group? Pretty sure this is where the pretext ends and the racism begins. 

[benjipwns]

Whites never had the slave mentality beaten into their DNA, so they're immune.

[benjipwns]

As Bernie Sanders Makes History, Jews Wonder What It Means

But is it good for the Jews?

[thisismyusername]

Take with a grain of salt:

http://gawker.com/this-is-how-hillary-clinton-gets-the-coverage-she-wants-1758019058

https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/454aoe/hillary_clinton_has_a_major_honesty_problem_after/czv26fm