US Politics Thread |OT| THE DARKEST TIMELINE

[Human Snorenado]

Clinton is consistently polling 20+ points up in TX. That sort of thing isn't a mistake, she'll win handily.

I didn't check OK before making predictions and apparently Bernie is up 5-6 points there, so he could win that.

[Phoenix Dark]

Sanders will win VT and CO. Hillary wins everything else including a squeaker in MA.

[benjipwns]

Anecdotal but the largest black newspaper in Houston is running with Sanders.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

What exactly is a "black" newspaper?

[benjipwns]

Owned, produced and written for blacks same as any other group targeted newspapers.

http://www.aframnews.com/
http://defendernetwork.com/
http://forwardtimesonline.com/

I don't live in Houston but I imagine they're like the free newspapers everywhere every locally owned restaurant/shop has like two or three racks stacked somewhere. And there's only one decent one in the city/town, and you can never remember which one it is, but it's almost guaranteed not to be the one you picked up to leaf through while waiting for an order or something. With Michigan State and the largest Community College around there's two horribly produced college papers that are always good for bad writing and incoherent lacking coverage.

I especially like video game reviewers in any of these types of publications. And closing my eyes and imagining some GAFer attending the college reading it and trying not to post a thread about what they wrote about Bloodborne or whatever.

And then I remember I watch Maoist Rebel News for fun.

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What exactly is a "black" newspaper?

is this a joke post

[Madrun Badrun]

What exactly is a "black" newspaper?

One with no white but red all over?

[Am_I_Anonymous]

What exactly is a "black" newspaper?

is this a joke post

No can you quantify what you call a black newspaper for me 

[tiesto]

http://nypost.com/2016/02/28/hillary-could-lose-to-trump-in-democratic-new-york/

Confidential polling data shows Hillary Clinton could lose the presidential election in heavily Democratic New York to Donald Trump as the GOP front-runner’s support grows to the point of being “surprisingly strong,” The Post has learned.

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“There are some Democrats who think that Hillary can be taken if Trump mounts a strong campaign,’’ one of the state’s most prominent Democrats said.

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The polls found that Clinton often had higher negative ratings with voters than did the more controversial Trump, whose inflammatory pronouncements have often angered and even horrified many of his fellow Republicans.

“In the suburbs and upstate, Trump has a net positive while Hillary is a net negative,” one longtime Republican operative contended. “She’s more of a liability than many Democrats realized.”

RUDY 2008 TRUMP 2016

Speaking as a person from suburban NY with a large cachet of Republican friends (mostly fiscally conservative and heavily pro-business, not so much socially conservative)... most of them are planning not to vote if Trump gets the nomination. Like, they obviously hate Hillary but would rather deal with her than risk  a Trump presidency. Out of the ones remaining they're mostly into Kasich, less so Rubio.

If Bloomberg jumps into the race, though...

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What exactly is a "black" newspaper?

is this a joke post

No can you quantify what you call a black newspaper for me 

again, is this a joke question

[Am_I_Anonymous]

What exactly is a "black" newspaper?

is this a joke post

No can you quantify what you call a black newspaper for me 

again, is this a joke question

Yes, how the fuck did you not figure it out 

Them inner racist feelings in your creeping out.

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i'm confused

someone help

[Mandark]

No offense but a lazy, borderline derelict until he was in his 40's isn't somebody I could ever get behind. Socialist or not.

Can we stop piling on GWB?  Let the man paint.

[Phoenix Dark]

What exactly is a "black" newspaper?

[Mandark]

Can't wait for AIA to ask what a HBCU is on the next page of this thread.

[Phoenix Dark]

AiA, here's a black magazine

[studyguy]

How is Cruz v Trump shaping up in Texas anyway? I need to see that salt flow.

Tomorrow's going to be incredible though, I can't fucking wait to see the tears and the fuckery. 

[Trent Dole]

Tomorrow is probably the death of Sanders attempt at the Dem nomination. Drumpf may have his parties nom in the bag at this point unless there is some extreme fuckery afoot, in which case he will run as a third party guy I imagine. May have said that I'm hoping for a four way race come November before.

[Brehvolution]

That pic of Obama makes him look like he has the eyes of Anubis.

[octopushover]

That pic of Obama makes him look like he has the eyes of Anubis.

fitting because he's one of the WAR GODS

[octopushover]

ANUBIS WINS

[studyguy]

Listen, if Hollywood has taught me anything. We need to recast this Obama fellow as someone more fitting. This guy looks too street to be an Egyptian god. Maybe we can recast him as a generic badguy bodyguard though 

[Sausage]

How is Cruz v Trump shaping up in Texas anyway? I need to see that salt flow.

Tomorrow's going to be incredible though, I can't fucking wait to see the tears and the fuckery. 

Cruz is probably gonna win

[Human Snorenado]

How is Cruz v Trump shaping up in Texas anyway? I need to see that salt flow.

Tomorrow's going to be incredible though, I can't fucking wait to see the tears and the fuckery. 

Cruz is probably gonna win

Recent polls have tightened, but yeah my money is on Cruz just barely winning

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/tx/texas_republican_presidential_primary-3622.html

[studyguy]

GOP primaries are all or nothing, not % split like dems right?
Or was it per state that it goes down like that?

[Madrun Badrun]

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/265895292191248385

[Take My Breh Away]

America explain

https://twitter.com/jesseryanusa/status/703380392691130368

[octopushover]

America explain

https://twitter.com/jesseryanusa/status/703380392691130368

 

this is the leading world power?

[Madrun Badrun]

Ya I've started rooting for the Chinese.  Go team Yellow!   

[benjipwns]

GOP primaries are all or nothing, not % split like dems right?
Or was it per state that it goes down like that?

Super Tuesday will be mostly PR still. With thresholds. (i.e. candidate has to get at least 10%, 20%, etc.)

It was the new rule this cycle on the GOP side that all primaries (with select exceptions) going March 1st or earlier had to be PR.

After this more and more states become WTA, though it'll still be mostly PR for the larger states until March 15th (Florida, Ohio, Illinois, Missouri are all WTA on that day, along with NC as PR, it's basically the end game for everyone not Trump/Shrillary) and after that only Rhode Island, Oregon and Washington are PR in some form.

That's why Trump is in good position as long as he can squeak out first place finishes in WTA and/or not lose by too much in PR states.

Rubio desperately needs wins from here on out. Same for Cruz (even though we can already pencil him in for Iowa and Texas wins, they won't be worth huge amounts as Trump will likely finish a close second) though he seems more likely to actually get some.

The longer Kasich and Carson stay in the race sucking off 15-20% (get your minds out of the gutter, I expect better of The Bore) they're holding back Rubio and Cruz, not Trump. (And I suspect if they were to drop out, it wouldn't exactly help Rubio, especially since I'm assuming Carson voters will go to Trump and Cruz.) That's one reason Jeb! sucked it up and ditched. (Despite $24 million in SuperPAC money still.)

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welp. tonight is probably my last night working for the sanders campaign. here's hoping tomorrow we win.

time for fighting games. haven't played in three days

[benjipwns]

Two little delegate calculators:
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/02/27/upshot/republican-delegate-calculator-how-trump-can-win.html

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/writeup/the_gop_race_for_delegates_an_interactive_tool.html

In that second one you can pretty easily see just by hitting the national allocation in every state, sans Texas, through March 15th, Trump basically puts the nomination on lock.

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i'm actually starting to get worried he has a legitimate shot at winning the ge

[Phoenix Dark]

It's mathematically impossible to win the presidency while getting <25% of the Hispanic vote, <10% of the black vote, and losing the female vote by a considerable amount. He can increase white turnout sure, but the problem is that a lot of it resides in southern states he's going to win regardless.

[benjipwns]

You can't argue with the facts PD:

Nunberg asked women in Connecticut who opposed marijuana legalization who they respected more: a politician who is also charitable and a world-renowned businessman, father and grandfather or an “Elderly woman who not only openly allows her husband to have affairs but tries to silence the women.” The figure with the favorable abstract framing of Trump beat the figure with the negative abstract framing of Clinton by more than 20 points, according to Nunberg.

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“He’s a masculine figure and that will attract women to him,” said Nunberg. “It’s their dirty little secret. They like Donald Trump.”

[Mandark]

It's mathematically impossible to win the presidency while getting <25% of the Hispanic vote, <10% of the black vote, and losing the female vote by a considerable amount. He can increase white turnout sure, but the problem is that a lot of it resides in southern states he's going to win regardless.

I'd think that if the US hits a sharp recession, just about any asshole with the nomination of the out-party could win.

[Phoenix Dark]

It's mathematically impossible to win the presidency while getting <25% of the Hispanic vote, <10% of the black vote, and losing the female vote by a considerable amount. He can increase white turnout sure, but the problem is that a lot of it resides in southern states he's going to win regardless.

I'd think that if the US hits a sharp recession, just about any asshole with the nomination of the out-party could win.

Sure. But there are no signs of an imminent recession, despite conservatives wishing otherwise.

A major terrorist attack could also change things. But then again I'm not sure I can see Americans rushing into Trump's arms after an attack, overlooking someone with actual experience (Hillary).

And of course if Hillary is in jail everything changes 

[thisismyusername]

i'm actually starting to get worried he has a legitimate shot at winning the ge

You haven't been worried since his whole primary has been gaining steam?

GOP is legit scaring me, and I come from a GOP family. #NoAiA

[Cerveza mas fina]

All this time Muricans were laughing at Europeans voting for populists.

Now you legit shook hombres.

[octopushover]

and I come from a GOP family.

Explains why you're gay and racist. (Image removed from quote.)

 

That emote

[Syph]

If any of you have heard of Munk Debates, the info for the next one just came out and it's got me hyped as fuck
Featuring Nigel Farage and the GOAT, let me repeat, the GOAT Mark Steyn

Topic is on the Global Refugee Crisis:
Be it resolved, give us your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free...

[Madrun Badrun]

From the KKK thing
 


video, blood and stabbings

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http://boingboing.net/2016/02/29/nate-silver-warns-that-trump-c.html

    On Twitter this weekend, there was a lot of activity behind the hashtag #NeverTrump, with various conservative intellectuals and operatives pledging that they’d refuse to support Trump in November. Rubio’s Twitter account employed the hashtag also, although Rubio himself has been ambiguous about whether he’d back Trump.

    It’s reasonably safe to say that some of the people in the #NeverTrump movement will, in fact, wind up supporting Trump. Clinton, very likely the Democratic nominee, is a divisive figure, and some anti-Trump conservatives will conclude that Trump is the lesser of two evils. Others will get caught up in the esprit de corps of the election. Some of them might be reassured by how Trump conducts himself during the general election campaign or whom he picks as his running mate.

- Nate Silver

[TakingBackSunday]

Say it ain't so Silver

[Brehvolution]

Trump the lesser of 2 evils....... 

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Trump the lesser of 2 evils....... 

I wouldn't laugh at that.

Clinton has a storied history, and if you're a dumbass, you could blind yourself to that history and think Trump - who represents anti-esablishment somehow - is the more logical choice. Given that American voters seem to all agree our political system and bought politicians is fucked, this could make silly people think Trump is the best choice.

Clinton's history could come to bite her here. She's highly divisive and is by far the worst candidate the Democratic party could run with right now due to the stakes of this election. Of course, there's hope in all of this that for all of Hilary's fuck ups people hopefully find Trump even less trustworthy. Hopefully.

[helios]

People at my job definitely do not want Drumpf to be the nominee, but if it's between Drumpf and Hillary, their voting Hillary. They're all dumbasses.

Side note: this Drumpf extension is wonderful.

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let's hope everyone hates trump more than they do hilary then

[Human Snorenado]

Clearly, I'm voting for Hillary in November.

However, I have serious issues with her as a candidate and reserve the right to rub them in the faces of anyone that's an actual pro-Hillary shill if they should come to pass:

-any warmongering
-any caving to the GOP on shit like chained CPI/cutting entitlements in a "grand bargain" type agreement that even Obama almost seriously pursued

Also, I find anyone saying that she's the better dem candidate to deal with a Republican Congress (which will be a reality until 2022 at the earliest) to be laughably stupid: these lunatic GOP congresscritters view her as the Butcher of Benghazi and essentially Maleficent of the Ozarks. You think they're not gonna fall all over themselves to oppose her AT LEAST as hard as they've done Obama? GTFO.

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The whole Hilary thing is so bad. Dems really should have pushed for a better candidate than her. Warren isn't going to be running for President in 2020 either, because she's fucking 66.

I'll vote for her, but only for gritted teeth for a dem house and progressive scotus seat.

And yes, I'll continue to give her guff despite that vote. I don't see why voting for her or being better than Republicans removes her from criticism.

Someone told me I'm a hypocrite for claiming that I will vote for Hilary if Bernie doesn't get the nom. SMH.

On the plus side, I doubt she'll undo the great things about Obama's presidency because she so cravenly hides behind him and his legacy. So we have that going for us under a President Clinton.

[brawndolicious]

I don't think anyone views Trump as a presidential type, his entire platform is to oppose the liberals and moderate Republicans that make up most of American politics. So he's seen more as an expression of discontent by a plurality of a minority. He's good at pushing buttons which is why he got through those Republican debates with the least dignity lost but you can't spend two hours humiliating one other person on stage during a GE debate.

And of course people say EVERY election is too high stakes to go with a risky candidate. I thought the same thing in 2008 and then I saw the first black president get elected. Hillary gets knocked on for being heartless, not being independently successful, and for having a rocky marriage with infidelity at some point.

Yet libs be panicking that fucking TRUMP supporters are going to use that shit against her?

[Mods Help]

I don't think anyone views Trump as a presidential type, his entire platform is to oppose the liberals and moderate Republicans that make up most of American politics. So he's seen more as an expression of discontent by a plurality of a minority. He's good at pushing buttons which is why he got through those Republican debates with the least dignity lost but you can't spend two hours humiliating one other person on stage during a GE debate.

And of course people say EVERY election is too high stakes to go with a risky candidate. I thought the same thing in 2008 and then I saw the first black president get elected. Hillary gets knocked on for being heartless, not being independently successful, and for having a rocky marriage with infidelity at some point.

Yet libs be panicking that fucking TRUMP supporters are going to use that shit against her?

Trump not being the presidential type is exactly why he's appealing to people.

[Mandark]

If Hillary were a bad candidate, she wouldn't be cruising to the nomination right now.  Real talk.

[Brehvolution]

http://www.mediaite.com/online/ryan-blasts-trump-for-courting-endorsements-from-bigots-gop-does-not-prey-on-peoples-prejudices/

If a person wants to be the nominee of the Republican party, there can be no evasion and no games. They must reject any group or cause that is built on bigotry. This party does not prey on people’s prejudices. We appeal to their highest ideals. This is the party of Lincoln. We believe all people are created equal in the eyes of God and our government. This is fundamental. And if someone wants to be our nominee, they must understand this. I hope this is the last time I need to speak out on this race.

[Great Rumbler]

[TakingBackSunday]

http://www.mediaite.com/online/ryan-blasts-trump-for-courting-endorsements-from-bigots-gop-does-not-prey-on-peoples-prejudices/

If a person wants to be the nominee of the Republican party, there can be no evasion and no games. They must reject any group or cause that is built on bigotry. This party does not prey on people’s prejudices. We appeal to their highest ideals. This is the party of Lincoln. We believe all people are created equal in the eyes of God and our government. This is fundamental. And if someone wants to be our nominee, they must understand this. I hope this is the last time I need to speak out on this race.

I mean, daps to him for at least saying that.  Despite it being utterly false.

Also, Hillary IS the best all around Democratic candidate.  Seriously -- who else would be a strong candidate after Obama?  Biden?

[Great Rumbler]

Did not vote for Trump today.

[Syph]

a shined turd is still a turd
 

but yes she is the better democrat candidate
but only because bernie "run the jewels" sanders thinks money grows on trees

[Mandark]

thinks money grows on trees

tell ya boy marco

[thisismyusername]

and I come from a GOP family.

Explains why you're gay and racist. (Image removed from quote.)