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Re: US Politics Thread of Donald Drumpf |OT| Scott Adams is actually the worst
« Reply #15661 on: April 12, 2016, 12:30:12 AM »

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« Reply #15662 on: April 12, 2016, 12:36:53 AM »
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Maybe it's my browser but the Johnson, Cruz and Kasich projects don't actually have ads, the only one is the Heil Trump one. Also...a $500 goal for a nationwide political ad?

This smells fishy you guys. I wouldn't expect something like that in politics.

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« Reply #15663 on: April 12, 2016, 12:39:13 AM »


Opposed to name change?!?

This Texas mailer was backed for $18,000. 36 times what they want for a nationwide presidential ad that doesn't yet exist.

No, no, no, this doesn't add up at all.

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« Reply #15664 on: April 12, 2016, 12:56:43 AM »
I'm also still not sure why Hillary isn't "likeable." She seems perfectly fine in her speeches and interviews.

Exhibit A:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-static-noise-speech_us_570930dae4b0836057a16748

Exhibit B:

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/11/hillary-clinton-told-wall-street-to-cut-it-out-not-so-much-the-record-shows-213363

Exhibit B.2 which is really C:

Just look at her top donators and then go back to exhibit A. 

If she can't be forward/transparent about this what will she be forward with elsewhere? (And no, obviously she's not gonna say "I'm totally in Wall Streets Pocket." But :comeon  if she can't let reporters into those fundraising events with the "1%," how can you trust her elsewhere? Confidentiality only runs so far in regards to national security, not her fucking fundraising events.)

She flips only when the opportunity arises on getting her voters. I've stated it before and I'll state it again: I don't get why black voters and gay men are so ga-ga over her. She has done nothing (IMO) for either of them.

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Re: US Politics Thread of Donald Drumpf |OT| Scott Adams is actually the worst
« Reply #15665 on: April 12, 2016, 12:59:19 AM »


EXCLUSIVE: Border Patrol Agents Demand GOP Provide ‘Free, Fair and Open Elections in America’
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I am calling today on the Republican Party to promise free, fair and open elections in America. All candidates should join in this demand. Elections should mean that the people – not party insiders – choose the nominee. We will never secure our immigration system unless the raw will of the American people is imposed through the ballot box. Clearly, politicians and special interests will continue to betray America’s interests if they are left to their own devices.

The American victims who have lost their children to illegal alien crime denounced Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX)97%’s “voterless victory” in Colorado.

The victims who endorsed Donald Trump said that they were appalled by the state GOP’s attempt to “silence” the American people. “The arrangement in Colorado is a sham. I can’t really call it an election. Ted Cruz is not for Americans,” said Cruz constituent Laura Wilkerson. “He is as bought and paid for as Hillary Clinton.”

“This needs to be a wake up call for Americans,” said Texas resident Dan Golvach. “We have been sleep walking into a third world tyranny with the two main parties. This also shows you who Ted Cruz has crawled into bed with politically speaking… He’s nothing more than a poster boy for the plutocrats. I have no use for him or the plutocrat media complex that has been pushing these type of candidates on us.”

Dan Golvach and Laura Wilkerson are both Cruz constituents. While Cruz was in the U.S. Senate, an illegal alien randomly chose 25-year-old Spencer Golvach’s “head as target practice”– shooting and murdering Spencer. On his way home from school six years ago, 18-year-old Joshua Wilkerson was tied up, beaten, strangled, set on fire, and tortured to death by his illegal alien classmate.

Laura Wilkerson said, “After meeting him [Sen. Cruz] and testifying in front of him, in July last of year, [we heard] nothing. Not once has he reached out to a Texas American family that has lost a loved one from an illegal alien hands. I have seen the Ted Cruz that I met completely change his position on immigration. Right now he is as bought and paid for as Hillary Clinton. People should be outraged that the kids from Colorado who are fighting for America can’t even vote for the leader of America. It’s not right.”
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A New Jersey judge heard arguments today on behalf of law professor Victor Williams and a group of concerned citizens regarding Senator Ted Cruz’s eligibility to run for president in the upcoming primary election.


Cruz was born in Canada and was a Canadian citizen until 2014.
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A New Jersey judge is weighing whether Sen. Ted Cruz should be disqualified from appearing on the state’s presidential primary ballot because he was born in Canada.

Judge Jeff Masin heard arguments Monday on behalf of the Texas Republican and two challengers, including Catholic University of America law professor Victor Williams and a group of concerned New Jersey residents.

Masin says he expects to rule Tuesday on procedural questions and the underlying issue of whether Cruz satisfies the constitutional requirement that the president be a natural-born citizen.

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« Reply #15666 on: April 12, 2016, 02:21:37 AM »
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« Reply #15667 on: April 12, 2016, 09:31:17 AM »
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Opposed to name change?!?

This Texas mailer was backed for $18,000. 36 times what they want for a nationwide presidential ad that doesn't yet exist.

No, no, no, this doesn't add up at all.
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« Reply #15668 on: April 12, 2016, 10:22:07 AM »
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Opposed to name change?!?

This Texas mailer was backed for $18,000. 36 times what they want for a nationwide presidential ad that doesn't yet exist.

No, no, no, this doesn't add up at all.

Only in Texas can you support "free market principles" while making support for renewable energy a negative.

When we say 'free market', we mean free from competition!
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« Reply #15669 on: April 12, 2016, 10:23:48 AM »
I'm also still not sure why Hillary isn't "likeable." She seems perfectly fine in her speeches and interviews.

Exhibit A:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-static-noise-speech_us_570930dae4b0836057a16748

Exhibit B:

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/11/hillary-clinton-told-wall-street-to-cut-it-out-not-so-much-the-record-shows-213363

Exhibit B.2 which is really C:

Just look at her top donators and then go back to exhibit A.  (Image removed from quote.)

If she can't be forward/transparent about this what will she be forward with elsewhere? (And no, obviously she's not gonna say "I'm totally in Wall Streets Pocket." But :comeon  if she can't let reporters into those fundraising events with the "1%," how can you trust her elsewhere? Confidentiality only runs so far in regards to national security, not her fucking fundraising events.)

She flips only when the opportunity arises on getting her voters. I've stated it before and I'll state it again: I don't get why black voters and gay men are so ga-ga over her. She has done nothing (IMO) for either of them.

"just look at her top donators" is such a stale argument. you know why bernie sanders asks people to donate $27 all the time? because it's how he can make sure they're not over the line at which they have to report their employer, so nobody can say "LOOK AT HIS TOP DONATORS" as if they think as a bloc.

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« Reply #15670 on: April 12, 2016, 11:20:22 AM »
Those links aren't really indictments of her likeability anyways. And if we're disqualifying candidates based on their donors, Obama's out too.

I also like how only Hillary gets dinged for "flipping" when that's the job of literally every politician ever. You're supposed to represent your constituents, yet somehow when they change their views you're not allowed to follow (if you're Hillary.)

Potential explanations for why black voters like her:

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Being associated with Black people was not popular politically at the time, in fact, Republicans had rode anti-Black sentiment to rousing success over the past several decades. Democratic Presidential candidates in 1984 and 1988 largely ignored Black voters and went for the white working class vote (it didn’t work out so well). The Clintons were in that political environment, and they still decided to build relationships with Black voters... President Clinton appointed the most diverse Cabinet in US history when it wasn’t popular to do so. Bill Clinton appointed seven Black Cabinet Secretaries. He appointed more Black people to federal judgeships than were appointed all of 16 years prior to his taking office...

Hillary Clinton, in particular, took a strong policy stance in the Clinton Administration... She played a significant part in most of the administration’s successes, and her effectiveness led to her being elected Senator and eventually serving as Secretary of State under President Obama.

Black voters aren’t stupid, they remember the Clintons fondly for a reason. The Clintons had near universal support from Black voters at the end of Bill Clinton’s Presidency, largely because their policies worked well.

Potential explanations for why LGBT voters like her:

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Recently, the Human Rights Campaign chose to endorse Hillary Clinton (which many Bernie Sanders supporters scoffed at). However, upon seeing the lengths that Secretary Clinton would go to in order to prevent and protect this community makes it abundantly clear why they chose to do so. She has put forth the most pro-LGBT policy proposal that I have ever seen in a presidential candidate.

Bernie Sanders says on his website that he would be an LGBT friendly president, which I fully believe. However, the specificity of Clinton’s policies really drew attention to me (namely, advocating for the federal Equality Act, removing the ban on transgender Americans from serving in the military, addressing the crisis of transphobic violence that impacts primarily women of color, bailing out jailed LGBT activists abroad, etc.). Hillary Clinton wouldn’t just be “a friendly face” in the White House; she would fight for people like me.

Not gonna say these are gospel but her support from these groups clearly didn't happen by accident.

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« Reply #15671 on: April 12, 2016, 12:18:26 PM »
Let's all take a brief second to acknowledge what really runs this country;



Okay, back to politics;
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« Reply #15672 on: April 12, 2016, 12:22:14 PM »
Those links aren't really indictments of her likeability anyways. And if we're disqualifying candidates based on their donors, Obama's out too.

I also like how only Hillary gets dinged for "flipping" when that's the job of literally every politician ever. You're supposed to represent your constituents, yet somehow when they change their views you're not allowed to follow (if you're Hillary.)

Potential explanations for why black voters like her:

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Being associated with Black people was not popular politically at the time, in fact, Republicans had rode anti-Black sentiment to rousing success over the past several decades. Democratic Presidential candidates in 1984 and 1988 largely ignored Black voters and went for the white working class vote (it didn’t work out so well). The Clintons were in that political environment, and they still decided to build relationships with Black voters... President Clinton appointed the most diverse Cabinet in US history when it wasn’t popular to do so. Bill Clinton appointed seven Black Cabinet Secretaries. He appointed more Black people to federal judgeships than were appointed all of 16 years prior to his taking office...

Hillary Clinton, in particular, took a strong policy stance in the Clinton Administration... She played a significant part in most of the administration’s successes, and her effectiveness led to her being elected Senator and eventually serving as Secretary of State under President Obama.

Black voters aren’t stupid, they remember the Clintons fondly for a reason. The Clintons had near universal support from Black voters at the end of Bill Clinton’s Presidency, largely because their policies worked well.

Potential explanations for why LGBT voters like her:

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Recently, the Human Rights Campaign chose to endorse Hillary Clinton (which many Bernie Sanders supporters scoffed at). However, upon seeing the lengths that Secretary Clinton would go to in order to prevent and protect this community makes it abundantly clear why they chose to do so. She has put forth the most pro-LGBT policy proposal that I have ever seen in a presidential candidate.

Bernie Sanders says on his website that he would be an LGBT friendly president, which I fully believe. However, the specificity of Clinton’s policies really drew attention to me (namely, advocating for the federal Equality Act, removing the ban on transgender Americans from serving in the military, addressing the crisis of transphobic violence that impacts primarily women of color, bailing out jailed LGBT activists abroad, etc.). Hillary Clinton wouldn’t just be “a friendly face” in the White House; she would fight for people like me.

Not gonna say these are gospel but her support from these groups clearly didn't happen by accident.


You getting paid to astroturf for this criminal bitch or what?

Let me know when she actually is honest about either of the following: Benghazi or Whitewater.
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« Reply #15673 on: April 12, 2016, 12:26:23 PM »
Okay who had April 12th for AiA to go full Benghazi?

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« Reply #15674 on: April 12, 2016, 12:30:54 PM »
Okay who had April 12th for AiA to go full Benghazi?

I can not, for the life of me fathom how you people shit on the value of American lives to defend somebody who would clearly shit all over you if she needed to. I'm not one of those dudes to put it 100% on her, because no decision is made in a vacuum, but the bitch fucked up and needs to say as much.

Just saying.


Also go read up on whitewater since I'm sure you have no idea what it is.
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« Reply #15675 on: April 12, 2016, 12:48:14 PM »
Dude, fuck Hillary, but bringing up Benghazi at this point ain't a good look

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« Reply #15676 on: April 12, 2016, 12:51:19 PM »
Dude, fuck Hillary, but bringing up Benghazi at this point ain't a good look

See I'll never understand this liberal way of thinking. People are still hammering George Bush for shit but DONT DARE mention Benghazi again. You can't have it both ways, bro.

Circular arguments and feigned intellectual advantages. The way of the modern democrat. This is why the rest of the world laughs at us now, thanks.
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« Reply #15677 on: April 12, 2016, 01:01:02 PM »
Well I suppose no one can accuse you of feigning intellectualism if you're equating GWB's entire tenure to Benghazi

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« Reply #15678 on: April 12, 2016, 01:03:37 PM »
Well I suppose no one can accuse you of feigning intellectualism if you're equating GWB's entire tenure to Benghazi

A matter of opinion. Which we are all allowed to have. Well unless you question the Clinton's, then you're just a racist sexist republican, am i right?


https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2015/10/30/media-turn-deaf-ear-to-hillarys-glaring-mistakes/

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Terrorist hits on United States under Bush post 9/11 versus hits during Obama tenure anyone? Thought so.

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« Reply #15679 on: April 12, 2016, 01:05:24 PM »
You getting paid to astroturf for this criminal bitch or what?

Let me know when she actually is honest about either of the following: Benghazi or Whitewater.

"Criminal" isn't an accurate term, since she has yet to face any jailtime. "Bitch" is slightly more accurate but it also highlights the pervasive sexist attitudes Hillary Clinton has had to deal with her entire career.

Eight separate Benghazi committees, including a Republican-led committee which grilled Hillary for eight hours straight, all failed to produce anything substantial against her. The entire circus was a pointless waste of time and money, championed by the GOP in yet another desperate bid to tear a Clinton down. And it completely failed.

As for Whitewater, it's comical to bring that up against Hillary two decades later, since the Clinton's did nothing wrong and weren't convicted. That "scandal" is literally as old as I am.

Bring up her emails next, I'm waiting.

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Re: US Politics Thread of Donald Drumpf |OT| Scott Adams is actually the worst
« Reply #15680 on: April 12, 2016, 01:05:51 PM »
Okay who had April 12th for AiA to go full Benghazi?








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Re: US Politics Thread of Donald Drumpf |OT| Scott Adams is actually the worst
« Reply #15681 on: April 12, 2016, 01:06:25 PM »


Circular arguments and feigned intellectual advantages. The way of the modern democrat. This is why the rest of the world laughs at us now, thanks.

I've laughed at America a lot in the past 12 months.

But that is not one of the reasons why.
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« Reply #15682 on: April 12, 2016, 01:06:56 PM »
You getting paid to astroturf for this criminal bitch or what?

Let me know when she actually is honest about either of the following: Benghazi or Whitewater.

"Criminal" isn't an accurate term, since she has yet to face any jailtime. "Bitch" is more accurate but it also highlights the pervasive sexist attitudes Hillary Clinton has had to deal with her entire career.

Eight separate Benghazi committees, including a Republican-led committee which grilled Hillary for eight hours straight, all failed to produce anything substantial against her. The entire circus was a pointless waste of time and money, championed by the GOP in yet another desperate bid to tear a Clinton down. And it completely failed.

As for Whitewater, it's comical to bring that up against Hillary two decades later, since the Clinton's did nothing wrong and weren't convicted. That "scandal" is literally as old as I am.

Bring up her emails next, I'm waiting. (Image removed from quote.)

Let's start here

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1. Clinton originated the false narrative about a YouTube video protest — Using Clinton's emails and calls as proof, Rep. Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, accused her of lying to the American people, telling them that the incident in Benghazi was a protest that got out of hand, instead of what it really was: a terrorist attack.

"So if there's no evidence for a video-inspired protest, then where did the false narrative start? It started with you, Madam Secretary," said Jordan, Real Clear Politics reported. "Here's what you said at 11 o'clock that night, approximately one hour after you told the American people it was a video, you say to your family, 'Two officers were killed today in Benghazi by an al-Qaida- like group.' You tell — you tell the American people one thing, you tell your family an entirely different story. Also on the night of the attack, you had a call with the president of Libya. Here's what you said to him: 'Ansar al-Sharia is claiming responsibility.' It's interesting; Mr. Khattala, one of the guys arrested in charge actually belonged to that group. And finally, most significantly, the next day, within 24 hours, you had a conversation with the Egyptian prime minister. You told him this: 'We know the attack in Libya had nothing to do with the film. It was a planned attack, not a protest.'"


Caught lying. Defend that and we'll move along.
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Re: US Politics Thread of Donald Drumpf |OT| Scott Adams is actually the worst
« Reply #15683 on: April 12, 2016, 01:14:37 PM »
Okay.

But what exactly is criminal about that?
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« Reply #15684 on: April 12, 2016, 01:16:13 PM »
Okay.

But what exactly is criminal about that?

Lying to the American public certainly isn't criminal. But it's building towards something, let Tasty get his defense in and we will move along.
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« Reply #15685 on: April 12, 2016, 01:17:45 PM »
Okay.

But what exactly is criminal about that?

Also, intelligence moves fast. What might be true at 11pm might be completely different an entire hour later, especially for an actively unfolding political situation.

In general:

"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."

Or rather, in this instance, ignorance pending further information.

You're trying to say Hillary is omniscient and knew everything about the situation as it was happening in real-time, while also saying she seriously fucked up. Can't have it both ways.

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« Reply #15686 on: April 12, 2016, 01:25:33 PM »
Let's be real. A CIA annex got shot to shit in Benghazi. We will never know exactly what happened. Whether it was a protest or an arms deal to smuggle weapons into another country, we'll never know for sure. What we do know is that this story has been tarnished with blatant lies to insinuate Obama or Hillary committed treason. There was no stand down order. Obama wasn't watching Stevens die on a live feed video.

Terrorists blow shit up. They attack embassies overseas. But despite countless cases of embassies being attacked under Bush I don't remember a single time where democrats turned it into a political grenade or accused him of letting Americans die. Nobody gives a fuck.
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« Reply #15687 on: April 12, 2016, 01:27:04 PM »
Okay.

But what exactly is criminal about that?

Also, intelligence moves fast. What might be true at 11pm might be completely different an entire hour later, especially for an actively unfolding political situation.

In general:

"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."

Or rather, in this instance, ignorance pending further information.

You're trying to say Hillary is omniscient and knew everything about the situation as it was happening in real-time, while also saying she seriously fucked up. Can't have it both ways.

Okay. Now did Clinton have responsibility for Steven's safety or did she not? Was he able to contact her directly? Go ahead


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« Reply #15688 on: April 12, 2016, 01:28:22 PM »
Let's be real. A CIA annex got shot to shit in Benghazi. We will never know exactly what happened. Whether it was a protest or an arms deal to smuggle weapons into another country, we'll never know for sure. What we do know is that this story has been tarnished with blatant lies to insinuate Obama or Hillary committed treason. There was no stand down order. Obama wasn't watching Stevens die on a live feed video.

Terrorists blow shit up. They attack embassies overseas. But despite countless cases of embassies being attacked under Bush I don't remember a single time where democrats turned it into a political grenade or accused him of letting Americans die. Nobody gives a fuck.

She lied, come on man. It's on the level of her landing "under sniper fire" and other bullshit she's strung out the last few decades. She gets no pass for being dishonest from me. Of all of the underwhelming candidates for President this year, she is clearly the most professional liar. At least she's been caught the most. Not sure why you want that as a leader, but the choice is yours.
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« Reply #15689 on: April 12, 2016, 01:30:50 PM »
Okay.

But what exactly is criminal about that?

Also, intelligence moves fast. What might be true at 11pm might be completely different an entire hour later, especially for an actively unfolding political situation.

In general:

"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."

Or rather, in this instance, ignorance pending further information.

You're trying to say Hillary is omniscient and knew everything about the situation as it was happening in real-time, while also saying she seriously fucked up. Can't have it both ways.

Okay. Now did Clinton have responsibility for Steven's safety or did she not? Was he able to contact her directly? Go ahead

Like I said:

You're trying to say Hillary is omniscient and knew everything about the situation as it was happening in real-time, while also saying she seriously fucked up. Can't have it both ways.

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« Reply #15690 on: April 12, 2016, 01:32:10 PM »
Talking to a conservative about Benghazi in 2016 :dead
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« Reply #15691 on: April 12, 2016, 01:33:01 PM »
Talking to a conservative about Benghazi in 2016 :dead

Again the minute you stop crying about Bush, i'll stop giving you shit about Clinton. They both were responsible for the death of american lives, whether the fuck you like it or not.

And notice I have never and will never trash obama on this shit, because he doesn't deserve it.
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« Reply #15692 on: April 12, 2016, 01:33:24 PM »
Okay.

But what exactly is criminal about that?

Also, intelligence moves fast. What might be true at 11pm might be completely different an entire hour later, especially for an actively unfolding political situation.

In general:

"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."

Or rather, in this instance, ignorance pending further information.

You're trying to say Hillary is omniscient and knew everything about the situation as it was happening in real-time, while also saying she seriously fucked up. Can't have it both ways.

Okay. Now did Clinton have responsibility for Steven's safety or did she not? Was he able to contact her directly? Go ahead

Like I said:

You're trying to say Hillary is omniscient and knew everything about the situation as it was happening in real-time, while also saying she seriously fucked up. Can't have it both ways.

I want an answer. Could Stevens reach Clinton or not? And I don't mean that day, I mean ever.
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« Reply #15693 on: April 12, 2016, 01:38:06 PM »
I want an answer. Could Stevens reach Clinton or not? And I don't mean that day, I mean ever.

You're backpedaling from "Hillary is a criminal cause of Benghazi!" to "Hillary lied to the American people!" to "Hillary was responsible for Stevens!" breh. :umad

Getting the picture why all eight committees failed to pin anything on her?

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« Reply #15694 on: April 12, 2016, 01:38:59 PM »
I want an answer. Could Stevens reach Clinton or not? And I don't mean that day, I mean ever.

You're backpedaling from "Hillary lied to the American people" to "Hillary was responsible for Stevens" breh. :umad

Where did I backpedal? She did both.

Answer the question. Or at least google it so you seem like you know the facts.
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« Reply #15695 on: April 12, 2016, 01:40:48 PM »
I'm not going to humor you until you come out with what your point is. Every new response I post leads to "well what about-" without you actually addressing anything I'm saying. I'm done. :badass

Probably should have known better.  :dunno

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Re: US Politics Thread of Donald Drumpf |OT| Scott Adams is actually the worst
« Reply #15696 on: April 12, 2016, 01:41:17 PM »
Talking to a conservative about Benghazi in 2016 :dead

Again the minute you stop crying about Bush, i'll stop giving you shit about Clinton. They both were responsible for the death of american lives, whether the fuck you like it or not.

I guarantee you that Bush has been mentioned less than Benghazi in this entire thread. You're imagining specters of attacks not there.

Am_I_Anonymous

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Re: US Politics Thread of Donald Drumpf |OT| Scott Adams is actually the worst
« Reply #15697 on: April 12, 2016, 01:43:35 PM »
I'm not going to humor you until you come out with what your point is. Every new response I post leads to "well what about-" without you actually addressing anything I'm saying. I'm done. :badass

Probably should have known better.  :dunno

I asked you two questions, you have answered none of them and I'm the one who backpedals? It's not my fault you're uneducated on the situation so I'll just get to the point.

At best she abandoned her duty to pursue her own political agenda, at worst it was a criminal neglect of her sworn duties as a representative of the United States. The truth is somewhere in the middle. This may be okay to you but it isn't okay to anyone who serves or served. You think the military is a fan of hers? Wait until they vote.


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Phoenix Dark

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Re: US Politics Thread of Donald Drumpf |OT| Scott Adams is actually the worst
« Reply #15698 on: April 12, 2016, 01:45:51 PM »
Hillary isn't the only person who peddled a cover story about Benghazi. And let's not forget the government's story about the Bin Laden raid has changed as well. I just find it odd that we can have conversations about covert shit and not even acknowledge the reality that the government lies about this shit all the time and we never find out the truth.

Nobody died because of Hillary. So I see no point in throwing her in the bushes over this shit.
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Am_I_Anonymous

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Re: US Politics Thread of Donald Drumpf |OT| Scott Adams is actually the worst
« Reply #15699 on: April 12, 2016, 01:46:43 PM »


Nobody died because of Hillary. So I see no point in throwing her in the bushes over this shit.

They died working for her did they not? Of course they did. Shit rolls downhill last time I checked, Percy.
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Re: US Politics Thread of Donald Drumpf |OT| Scott Adams is actually the worst
« Reply #15700 on: April 12, 2016, 01:48:05 PM »
On the day of the attack, Islamists in Cairo had staged a demonstration outside the United States Embassy there to protest an American-made online video mocking Islam, and the protest culminated in a breach of the embassy’s walls — images that flashed through news coverage around the Arab world.

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As the attack in Benghazi was unfolding a few hours later, Mr. Abu Khattala told fellow Islamist fighters and others that the assault was retaliation for the same insulting video, according to people who heard him.

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Re: US Politics Thread of Donald Drumpf |OT| Scott Adams is actually the worst
« Reply #15701 on: April 12, 2016, 01:54:31 PM »


Nobody died because of Hillary. So I see no point in throwing her in the bushes over this shit.

They died working for her did they not? Of course they did. Shit rolls downhill last time I checked, Percy.

They died in service of the United States. Are we seriously having this discussion? They were carrying out interests of US foreign/diplomatic policy, or CIA fuckery. You make it sound like Hillary personally sent them there to pick up some gyros for her lunch.
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Tasty

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Re: US Politics Thread of Donald Drumpf |OT| Scott Adams is actually the worst
« Reply #15702 on: April 12, 2016, 01:55:12 PM »


Nobody died because of Hillary. So I see no point in throwing her in the bushes over this shit.

They died working for her did they not? Of course they did. Shit rolls downhill last time I checked, Percy.

Lol this is such a reductionist argument. :lol By this logic Obama should be indicted because all the soldiers died on his watch.



Nobody died because of Hillary. So I see no point in throwing her in the bushes over this shit.

They died working for her did they not? Of course they did. Shit rolls downhill last time I checked, Percy.

They died in service of the United States. Are we seriously having this discussion? They were carrying out interests of US foreign/diplomatic policy, or CIA fuckery. You make it sound like Hillary personally sent them there to pick up some gyros for her lunch.

Dude.

She lied.

They DIED.

Q.E.D.

Am_I_Anonymous

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Re: US Politics Thread of Donald Drumpf |OT| Scott Adams is actually the worst
« Reply #15703 on: April 12, 2016, 01:56:49 PM »
Yes who needs accountability when we can all point our fingers in a big circle. Get the fuck out of here with that bullshit. Her post, her responsibility. Period.
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Re: US Politics Thread of Donald Drumpf |OT| Scott Adams is actually the worst
« Reply #15704 on: April 12, 2016, 01:58:31 PM »


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Phoenix Dark

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Re: US Politics Thread of Donald Drumpf |OT| Scott Adams is actually the worst
« Reply #15706 on: April 12, 2016, 02:09:51 PM »
Wouldn't the buck stop with Obama? Hillary was carrying out his policies right? I just find this convo weird as fuck that we're blaming anyone for this. It's not like this is 911 where you have officials ignoring security risks. This is a case of a CIA annex being hit in a war torn country we had little control of. Which goes back to my complaint that nobody gives a shit about all the embassies and govt buildings that were attacked in other countries during Bush's terms.
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Steve Contra

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Re: US Politics Thread of Donald Drumpf |OT| Scott Adams is actually the worst
« Reply #15707 on: April 12, 2016, 02:21:28 PM »
Fuck now I want to send some employees for gyros :preach
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Re: US Politics Thread of Donald Drumpf |OT| Scott Adams is actually the worst
« Reply #15708 on: April 12, 2016, 02:57:33 PM »
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Re: US Politics Thread of Donald Drumpf |OT| Scott Adams is actually the worst
« Reply #15709 on: April 12, 2016, 03:03:17 PM »
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Re: US Politics Thread of Donald Drumpf |OT| Scott Adams is actually the worst
« Reply #15710 on: April 12, 2016, 03:49:49 PM »
Yes who needs accountability when we can all point our fingers in a big circle. Get the fuck out of here with that bullshit. Her post, her responsibility. Period.

We're all going to be her responsibility in about 8 months. Can't wait to blame the upcoming financial collapse on Hillarycareghazi. :lawd
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Re: US Politics Thread of Donald Drumpf |OT| Scott Adams is actually the worst
« Reply #15711 on: April 12, 2016, 06:02:36 PM »
Okay who had April 12th for AiA to go full Benghazi?

Dude, Behghazi was the subject of maybe his first post in this thread.

I remember him saying JFK and Reagan would never mislead the public about something where Americans had died, and everyone was :sabu

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Re: US Politics Thread of Donald Drumpf |OT| Scott Adams is actually the worst
« Reply #15712 on: April 12, 2016, 06:05:52 PM »
Ok so nothing AiA says that is politically oriented is even remotely worth of consideration then, got it.
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Am_I_Anonymous

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Re: US Politics Thread of Donald Drumpf |OT| Scott Adams is actually the worst
« Reply #15713 on: April 12, 2016, 06:20:53 PM »
Ok so nothing AiA says that is politically oriented is even remotely worth of consideration then, got it.

Ok. Seriously though who are you?
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Re: US Politics Thread of Donald Drumpf |OT| Scott Adams is actually the worst
« Reply #15714 on: April 12, 2016, 06:31:56 PM »
Just read the last page.  You day drinking, AIA?

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Re: US Politics Thread of Donald Drumpf |OT| Scott Adams is actually the worst
« Reply #15715 on: April 12, 2016, 07:16:22 PM »
Dinesh D'Souza and his Goan fuccery  :brazilcry

Goa Trance :rock :rock :rock

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Steve Contra

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Re: US Politics Thread of Donald Drumpf |OT| Scott Adams is actually the worst
« Reply #15716 on: April 12, 2016, 07:44:07 PM »
Just read the last page.  You day drinking, AIA?
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Re: US Politics Thread of Donald Drumpf |OT| Scott Adams is actually the worst
« Reply #15717 on: April 12, 2016, 07:47:33 PM »
Just read the last page.  You day drinking, AIA?
probably

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Can't blame him though, I'd be doing the same

Steve Contra

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Re: US Politics Thread of Donald Drumpf |OT| Scott Adams is actually the worst
« Reply #15718 on: April 12, 2016, 08:45:29 PM »
Of all the Bernie fans I'm concerned will off themselves when Hillary is nominated this dude writing fan-fic over at Huff-po is definitely top of the list:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-goodman/sanders-become-democratic-nominee-even-if-clinton-leads-in-delegates_b_9657952.html?ir=Politics
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