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Re: US Politics Thread of Donald Drumpf |OT| Scott Adams is actually the worst
« Reply #15840 on: April 15, 2016, 10:16:09 PM »
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Because if we are willing to work for it, and fight for it, and believe in it, then I am absolutely certain that generations from now, we will be able to look back and tell our children that this was the moment when we began to provide care for the sick and good jobs to the jobless; this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal; this was the moment when we ended a war and secured our nation and restored our image as the last, best hope on earth.
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history teaches us that at defining moments like this one, the change we need doesn't come from Washington. Change comes to Washington.
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« Reply #15841 on: April 15, 2016, 11:27:19 PM »


That's the "It's just like a mini...mall" guy. :ohhh
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« Reply #15842 on: April 16, 2016, 02:49:51 AM »
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Cruz, asked by WABC radio host Curtis Sliwa if he would ban “the sale of sexual toys, dildos, or anything that sexually stimulates you,” answered that he would not.

“Look, of course not, it’s a ridiculous question, and of course not,” Cruz told Sliwa on Friday. “What people do in their own private time with themselves is their own business and it’s none of government’s business.”
:letsfukk

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Re: US Politics Thread of Donald Drumpf |OT| Scott Adams is actually the worst
« Reply #15843 on: April 16, 2016, 03:08:09 AM »
Doesn't Texas have a bunch of restrictions about buying sex toys?

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« Reply #15844 on: April 16, 2016, 04:08:53 AM »
Yeah, they did, I think he was being asked in part because he defended those laws while solicitor general of Texas: http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/04/ted-cruz-dildo-ban-sex-devices-texas
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In 2007, Cruz's legal team, working on behalf of then-Attorney General Greg Abbott (who now is the governor), filed a 76-page brief calling on the US Court of Appeals for the 5th Circuit to uphold the lower court's decision and permit the law to stand. The filing noted, "The Texas Penal Code prohibits the advertisement and sale of dildos, artificial vaginas, and other obscene devices" but does not "forbid the private use of such devices." The plaintiffs had argued that this case was similar to Lawrence v. Texas, the landmark 2003 Supreme Court decision that struck down Texas' law against sodomy. But Cruz's office countered that Lawrence "focused on interpersonal relationships and the privacy of the home" and that the law being challenged did not block the "private use of obscene devices." Cruz's legal team asserted that "obscene devices do not implicate any liberty interest." And its brief added that "any alleged right associated with obscene devices" is not "deeply rooted in the Nation's history and traditions." In other words, Texans were free to use sex toys at home, but they did not have the right to buy them.

The brief insisted that Texas, in order to protect "public morals," had  "police-power interests" in "discouraging prurient interests in sexual gratification, combating the commercial sale of sex, and protecting minors." There was a  "government" interest, it maintained, in "discouraging…autonomous sex." The brief compared the use of sex toys to "hiring a willing prostitute or engaging in consensual bigamy," and it equated advertising these products with the commercial promotion of prostitution. In perhaps the most noticeable line of the brief, Cruz's office declared, "There is no substantive-due-process right to stimulate one's genitals for non-medical purposes unrelated to procreation or outside of an interpersonal relationship." That is, the pursuit of such happiness had no constitutional standing. And the brief argued there was no "right to promote dildos, vibrators, and other obscene devices." The plaintiffs, it noted, were "free to engage in unfettered noncommercial speech touting the uses of obscene devices," but not speech designed to generate the sale of these items.

In a 2-1 decision issued in February 2008, the court of appeals told Cruz's office to take a hike.
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The day after the appeals court wiped out the Texas law, Cruz forwarded an email to the lawyer in his office who had overseen the briefs in the case. It included a blog post from legal expert Eugene Volokh headlined, "Dildoes Going to the Supreme Court?" and a sympathetic note from William Thro, then the solicitor general of Virginia. "Having had the experience of answering questions about oral sex from a female State Supreme Court Justice who is also a grandmother," Thro wrote Cruz, "you have my sympathy. :-) Seriously, if you do go for cert [with the Supreme Court] and if we can help, let me know." But for whatever reason—Cruz certainly doesn't explain in his book—Abbott and he did not take the dildo ban to the Supreme Court. And Cruz, who was already thinking about running for elected office, missed out on the chance to gain national attention as an advocate for the just-say-no-to-vibrators cause.
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Re: US Politics Thread of Donald Drumpf |OT| Scott Adams is actually the worst
« Reply #15845 on: April 16, 2016, 05:25:04 AM »


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« Reply #15846 on: April 16, 2016, 06:01:54 PM »
That's actually a plan though, whereas Sanders doesn't have one  :doge
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« Reply #15847 on: April 16, 2016, 06:09:01 PM »
Naw man his plan is to break up the big banks! Break them up!
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« Reply #15848 on: April 16, 2016, 10:02:54 PM »
I don't know if it will fix anything, but I'm at least willing to give it a shot. 

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« Reply #15849 on: April 16, 2016, 10:05:02 PM »
Also it should be one out of then because literal decimation really needs a modern resurgence.  There are too many mass murders that are not mathematically sound. 

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« Reply #15850 on: April 17, 2016, 12:49:10 AM »
So what y'all are telling me is that Sanders is basically Liberal Ron Paul.

Yup, that's what I've been saying the whole time.

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« Reply #15851 on: April 17, 2016, 12:53:09 AM »
So what y'all are telling me is that Sanders is basically Liberal Ron Paul.

For the most part, yeah.

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Re: US Politics Thread of Donald Drumpf |OT| Scott Adams is actually the worst
« Reply #15852 on: April 17, 2016, 01:02:02 AM »



 :lol  :beli :stahp
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« Reply #15853 on: April 17, 2016, 01:12:05 AM »
http://www.salon.com/2016/04/16/voters_just_dont_like_her_hillarys_favorability_rating_hits_new_low_among_democrats_partner/

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“[The numbers] are pretty bad,” said Democratic strategist Brad Bannon. “The No. 1 reason that her favorability is so bad is that you have large numbers of Americans who say they don’t trust her. I could make it sound more complicated than that, but that’s really what it is. Voters see her as the ultimate politician, who will do or say anything to get elected.”

No way!? You mean to tell me people are starting to view her the same way I've been viewing her for years now? :doge :doge :doge :doge :doge :doge :doge :doge Someone  (not Andy) hold me. I'm shocked.

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Historically, 62 percent of voters saw Barack Obama as favorable at this point in the 2008 election.

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On the Democratic side, Bernie Sanders’ favorability has slid this month also, but is still 16 points higher than Clinton on the net favorable scale.

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Clinton’s highest favorability ratings came when she served as President Obama’s Secretary of State. Her second-highest were during Bill Clinton’s administration, at the time of the Monica Lewinsky scandal in 1998, when she was viewed favorably by 60 percent of voters.

Guess she needs to get Bill a blowie (not by her), stat?

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Re: US Politics Thread of Donald Drumpf |OT| Scott Adams is actually the worst
« Reply #15854 on: April 17, 2016, 01:54:05 AM »


Is this is a Sanders supporter or a Republican? The answer may surprise you!

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« Reply #15855 on: April 17, 2016, 02:02:29 AM »




This whole thing is backfiring so hard. :lol

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« Reply #15856 on: April 17, 2016, 02:23:17 AM »
http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/15/opinions/clinton-and-sanders-supporters-animosity-opinion-zelizer/

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At one unpleasant moment, a Clinton supporter sitting behind me mockingly yelled at three of the Sanders backers who were standing up and pumping their fists a slogan used by the Nazis, "Sieg Heil."

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The most vivid image from the Democratic convention, besides Kennedy's rousing speech, was when Carter had to literally scramble to find Kennedy on the stage. Carter wanted to hold their hands up in a sign of unity, instead he only could muster a cold handshake. The result was a Republican president, Ronald Reagan.

I wish Hillary would win NY by like 20 points on Tuesday just so we can start healing this party. At this rate, keeping it going to June is going to be dangerous.

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If Democrats want to avoid a replay of 1968 or 1980, with a Donald Trump or Ted Cruz winning the White House, they are going to have to lower the temperature in the room and find ways to remind their supporters that the cause of party is more important than the imperative to be right.

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« Reply #15857 on: April 17, 2016, 02:37:01 AM »
IIRC there's basically no evidence that drawn-out primaries hurt the nominee in the general election, and "Carter lost cause Kennedy didn't shake his hand" is one of those dumb conventional wisdom things.

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« Reply #15858 on: April 17, 2016, 02:40:33 AM »
IIRC there's basically no evidence that drawn-out primaries hurt the nominee in the general election, and "Carter lost cause Kennedy didn't shake his hand" is one of those dumb conventional wisdom things.

:yeshrug Maybe, but I'm sick of the rhetoric too.

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« Reply #15859 on: April 17, 2016, 03:05:09 AM »
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If Democrats want to avoid a replay of 1968 or 1980, with a Donald Trump or Ted Cruz winning the White House, they are going to have to lower the temperature in the room and find ways to remind their supporters that the cause of party is more important than the imperative to be right.
The current primary systems are completely different from 1968 (where Humphrey nearly came back to win and faced George Wallace taking away key Democratic states remember) AND 1980.

Kennedy's attempt to free the delegates led to the superdelegates. It was arguably this move, combined with Kennedy's withdrawal speech that may have hurt Carter more than any dumb handshake. Not to mention John Anderson's bid. And the Carter campaigns all around incompetency and assumption that Reagan had no shot.

1968 had only a handful of primaries, the bulk of delegates were controlled by the political machines and thus even had RFK not died it would have been tough for him or McCarthy to stop Humphrey at the convention.

Four years later, they attempted to derail McGovern but the new primary system made it so they were able to ward off the attempts. (Hunter S. Thompson's work is oddly one of the few extensive (if biased) records of the Humphrey/machine convention attempt to unseat the McGovern elected delegates.)

The Sanders people, like the Hillary people in 2008, will know ahead of time that they were defeated by the process, even if they consider it unfavorable to them. There's no convention fight to be had. Remember, Hillary almost didn't release her delegates at the 2008 Convention, but was persuaded to halt the roll call. The PUMAs were ultimately insignificant, as was everything prior to Johm McCain's STOP THE DEBATES, WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE, WE NEED TO HEAD TO WASHINGTON IMMEDIATELY AND HOLD MEETINGS FOR SOME REASON abject meltdown, while Obama played it cool.

The GOP is in a different situation because 1.) Donald Trump is involved and B.) No candidate may enter with an obvious path to a majority and iii.) Donald Trump is involved. Also, Ted Cruz is the alternative.

One could expect that any gains Trump gets from anti-establishment/anti-trade/etc. voters who backed Sanders to be countered by Republican-leans who won't accept Trump. And Cruz has none of the crossover potential considering his standard conservative positions across the board.

Also, one shouldn't confuse the Sanders fanboys for the bulk of Sanders' support, anymore than one should confuse YAS QUEEN as Hillary's support. There's a lot of simply anti-Clinton, anti-politics-as-usual, etc. voting there. Maybe even more than there is true "left-wing" voting. It's a harmless protest vote against an believed inevitability. Most of those people will stick to voting D in November because it's less that they hate Hillary than they're just unenthusiastic about her but she's still clearly better than Trump/Cruz.

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« Reply #15860 on: April 17, 2016, 03:13:40 AM »
Also consider that a lot of Ron Paul's support did not consist of standard GOP voters. Especially in 2008 when he said fire doesn't melt steel beams in a debate and Rudy annihilated him.

Sanders can't be getting the support he does (essentially tied with Hillary now in national polls) without lots of regular D voters. You don't have to worry about those people abandoning the party just because he loses. The Ron Paul people were by and large never going to back the GOP nominee, especially Johm McCain, though less so Mitt Romney. Many of them even flopped over to Obama. Most probably didn't even bother to vote.

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« Reply #15861 on: April 17, 2016, 09:09:03 AM »
Hillary is going to win handily regardless of what Sanders fans do. Let's stop inflating their already too-high sense of importance. Obama unified the party after defeating Hillary, despite polls claiming large amounts of Clinton voters would not support him. Hillary will be fine and win big against Cruz or Trump.

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« Reply #15862 on: April 17, 2016, 12:45:54 PM »


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« Reply #15863 on: April 17, 2016, 09:24:24 PM »
The real difference between Bernie and Hillary.

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Buffalo is soon going to be home to the largest solar panel plant in the country. What is your reaction to that?

Sanders: Fantastic. Manufacturing solar panels? Fantastic.

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Buffalo soon will be home to the largest solar panel manufacturing plant in the country. You’ve promised the installation of another half-billion solar panels by the end of your first term. How do you get there?

Clinton: I’m thrilled that SolarCity is setting up an operation in Buffalo. … I’m going to do everything I can to encourage the construction of manufacturing facilities that are necessary (to meet her solar energy goal). I was relieved when the Congress included the investment tax credit and the production tax credit for wind and solar in the year-end budget agreement, but we have to go further. And I think the more we can get these facilities like the SolarCity plant built in New York, the more political support we can build. Because there does seem to be a connection: When you have a wind turbine assembly plant in Iowa, you’ve got the Iowa Republican members of Congress supporting the extension of the tax credit. So the more we can develop these facilities around the country, the quicker we can reach the goal that I have set.

Bernie: "Solar is good, yup."

Hillary: "I know the name of the company, the tax credits that made them possible, Buffalo's solar budget, and why renewable energy is important to furthering bipartisanism."

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« Reply #15864 on: April 17, 2016, 09:26:58 PM »
That Sanders interview mang :dead

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Have you thought about exactly what your tariff scenario would look like?

No. All I will tell you is that the status quo, what exists today, is not acceptable.

And the proof is in the pudding in that we have lost millions of decent-paying jobs as a result of these trade policies.

Hillary's answer to a similar question:

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What would be your approach to trade with China? Bernie Sanders said he would consider tariffs. Would you consider the same thing?

Look, I think that it’s clear that China has not competed fairly in the global marketplace, and there has to be a stricter, more effective approach toward dealing with China. China is in the World Trade Organization, and that gives us the opportunity to bring actions against China … to enforce provisions under WTO. And there are two benefits to that. One is to have a mechanism to try to prevent or stop Chinese unfair competition and the other is to get some remedies that will hold the Chinese accountable. So I would use the existing enforcement mechanisms. … And I would not need to be asked. If I were president, I would be much more on the offense and aggressive in enforcing the rules we already have.

If there is a continuing misuse of trading opportunities for Chinese goods and services coming into our markets, then I would look at measures of reciprocity. I think that making it clear that we’re not going to let China, for example, dump steel into the American market. It requires not only tough enforcement through the WTO, which sometimes can take awhile, but also may require us to be more aggressive on the front end. So imposing duties, preventing the unloading or the importing of goods while a dispute is being carried out, I think would be an appropriate way to respond.

This just reinforces why I'm for Hillary, she doesn't just know the problems but she also has solutions.

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« Reply #15865 on: April 17, 2016, 10:10:30 PM »
The real difference between Bernie and Hillary.

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Buffalo is soon going to be home to the largest solar panel plant in the country. What is your reaction to that?

Sanders: Fantastic. Manufacturing solar panels? Fantastic.

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Buffalo soon will be home to the largest solar panel manufacturing plant in the country. You’ve promised the installation of another half-billion solar panels by the end of your first term. How do you get there?

Clinton: I’m thrilled that SolarCity is setting up an operation in Buffalo. … I’m going to do everything I can to encourage the construction of manufacturing facilities that are necessary (to meet her solar energy goal). I was relieved when the Congress included the investment tax credit and the production tax credit for wind and solar in the year-end budget agreement, but we have to go further. And I think the more we can get these facilities like the SolarCity plant built in New York, the more political support we can build. Because there does seem to be a connection: When you have a wind turbine assembly plant in Iowa, you’ve got the Iowa Republican members of Congress supporting the extension of the tax credit. So the more we can develop these facilities around the country, the quicker we can reach the goal that I have set.

Bernie: "Solar is good, yup."

Hillary: "I know the name of the company, the tax credits that made them possible, Buffalo's solar budget, and why renewable energy is important to furthering bipartisanism."

That's actually really fucking cool. Buffalo was a sad sack of a city in desperate need of some growth engines when I lived up there, but it seems like the situation has gotten much better in recent years.
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Re: US Politics Thread of Donald Drumpf |OT| Scott Adams is actually the worst
« Reply #15867 on: April 17, 2016, 10:36:43 PM »
Wonder if my $50 donation to Bernie is gonna show up

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« Reply #15868 on: April 17, 2016, 11:12:20 PM »
Wonder if my $50 donation to Bernie is gonna show up

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Or my $25 donation today to Hillary.

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« Reply #15869 on: April 18, 2016, 12:22:53 AM »
If there was a republican one of those it'd read more like a nascar deck.
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« Reply #15870 on: April 18, 2016, 01:22:36 AM »
There is. https://twitter.com/EveryGopDonor Their donations are larger at a quick glance.
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« Reply #15871 on: April 18, 2016, 02:26:22 PM »
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/in-the-virgin-islands-there-is-chaos

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Virgin Islands Republican Party Vice Chairman Herb Schoenbohm told the paper that Brady was “slammed against the wall and thrown to the floor because she objected to the Gestapo-like tactics of the V.I. Chairman John Canegata.”

Schoenbohm also blasted the location of the meeting, telling the paper that Canegata was "banging the table with a large ammunition cartridge being used as a gavel" and walking around with a "firearm on his belt."

"People are not used to a Republican meeting being in a combat zone and will avoid future meetings if something isn’t done about his lack of control," Schoenbohm continued.

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« Reply #15872 on: April 18, 2016, 08:05:38 PM »
There's nothing wrong with supporting Hillary because she's more likely to win. Getting starry eyed over interviews isn't required.
This just reinforces why I'm for Hillary, she doesn't just know the problems but she also has solutions.
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there has to be a stricter, more effective approach toward dealing with China.
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to enforce provisions under WTO.
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a mechanism to try to prevent or stop Chinese unfair competition
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get some remedies that will hold the Chinese accountable
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I would be much more on the offense and aggressive in enforcing the rules we already have.
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I would look at measures of reciprocity.
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It requires not only tough enforcement through the WTO, which sometimes can take awhile, but also may require us to be more aggressive on the front end. So imposing duties
So...promise to enforce the existing rules, consider further ones but never enact or enforce them, and do the same about tariffs. In other words, the status quo.

Hillary: "I know the name of the company, the tax credits that made them possible, Buffalo's solar budget, and why renewable energy is important to furthering bipartisanism."
Which doesn't answer the question asked. ("You’ve promised the installation of another half-billion solar panels by the end of your first term. How do you get there?") It just throws out boilerplate gibberish and memorized talking points about Buffalo (before an interview with a Buffalo newspaper?!? I never) rather than explaining how she has and would have no power to achieve he laundry list of recycled promises in her platform.

Her actual answer is better summarized as: "the more we achieve the goals I set, the more we can reach the goals I set."

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« Reply #15873 on: April 18, 2016, 08:08:42 PM »
Wonder if my $50 donation to Bernie is gonna show up

:yeshrug
Or my $25 donation today to Hillary.
Donation totals under $200 don't have to be reported to the FEC and so usually aren't.

This stuff was already searchable and able to be viewed on places like OpenSecrets.


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Re: US Politics Thread of Donald Drumpf |OT| Scott Adams is actually the worst
« Reply #15875 on: April 18, 2016, 08:27:47 PM »
:lol

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« Reply #15876 on: April 18, 2016, 08:33:45 PM »
from today


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« Reply #15877 on: April 18, 2016, 11:47:22 PM »
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2016/04/the-obama-crime-wave-comes-to-minnesota.php
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What could account for an 85% increase in shootings? Liberals predictably will blame guns, but there has been no change in the gun laws. The only plausible explanation is a combination of the Ferguson Effect and the racial hostility promoted by the Obama administration and the Black Lives Matter organization. The Star Tribune’s report documents the Ferguson Effect:
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Lt. Bob Kroll, president of the Police Officers Federation of Minneapolis, blames the crime surge on a shrinking police force and greater scrutiny of police that has left some officers disengaged. The slowdown in policing has been noticeable.

Through April 11, police in north Minneapolis’ Fourth Precinct made 3,706 proactive stops, compared with 7,732 in the same period last year. Citywide, there has also been a dramatic decline in traffic stops and arrests for serious crimes.
Barack Obama and his minions have promoted racial division and a relentless attack on police forces as a means to political power. The inevitable result is now being seen all around the country: the Obama crime wave.

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« Reply #15878 on: April 19, 2016, 01:31:19 AM »

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« Reply #15879 on: April 19, 2016, 02:01:27 AM »




Gonna have some fun tomorrow. :obama

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Re: US Politics Thread of Donald Drumpf |OT| Scott Adams is actually the worst
« Reply #15880 on: April 19, 2016, 02:47:00 AM »
Even if (when) Clinton wins, won't she only end up with a max of ~2/3 of the New York delegates? Not to mention this a primary in New York, I doubt they usually get fired up to go out and vote in April. Or ever. Which benefits the candidate with more die hard supporters.

I'm just saying don't be disappointed if you get flashbacks of the Mass primary. This is going to be drawn out until us Californians allow your queen to bumble into the presidency.

You're welcome by the way. :snob

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« Reply #15881 on: April 19, 2016, 03:12:18 AM »


typical 1% tourist behavior

on a weekday no less

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« Reply #15882 on: April 19, 2016, 03:49:39 AM »
Even if (when) Clinton wins, won't she only end up with a max of ~2/3 of the New York delegates? Not to mention this a primary in New York, I doubt they usually get fired up to go out and vote in April. Or ever. Which benefits the candidate with more die hard supporters.

I'm just saying don't be disappointed if you get flashbacks of the Mass primary. This is going to be drawn out until us Californians allow your queen to bumble into the presidency.

You're welcome by the way. :snob

It was over after Super Tuesday II when she swept all five states that day IMO, but I'm hoping a 10-14% loss for Sanders (in a 247 delegate state) will make his saner supporters wake up (if there's any left.) The "he has momentum, we still have a majority of states left, X state Hillary won doesn't count cause reasons" will hopefully die tomorrow. Clinton will have won the four largest states delegate-wise to-date (Florida, Texas, Illinois, and now New York.) How can you argue with that?

But I might be giving Sanders fans too much credit. :P
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« Reply #15883 on: April 19, 2016, 05:48:22 AM »
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« Reply #15884 on: April 19, 2016, 08:52:18 AM »
How come every time I see one of these Trump rally vids all the Trump dudes have southern accents

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Re: US Politics Thread of Donald Drumpf |OT| Scott Adams is actually the worst
« Reply #15885 on: April 19, 2016, 09:00:45 AM »
Well, I did my part and voted for Sanders. Granted, I got there early but the few people I saw at the voting station were all old white women. (Not surprising considering the demographics of my district - I'm the youngest one living in my townhome complex by about 30 years).
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Re: US Politics Thread of Donald Drumpf |OT| Scott Adams is actually the worst
« Reply #15886 on: April 19, 2016, 09:35:01 AM »
I'm guessing (okay, betting 🤑) Hilldawg wins by <15%

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« Reply #15887 on: April 19, 2016, 09:53:19 AM »
I'm betting >10% and <15%. Hoping for more.

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Re: US Politics Thread of Donald Drumpf |OT| Scott Adams is actually the worst
« Reply #15888 on: April 19, 2016, 10:00:45 AM »
You know Bernie's response is gonna be

-we were down 60 points last year and only lost by 10
-we would have won if it was an open primary
-Bernie won his home state by 60 points
-but we're gonna do really well in California

Lmao

Hillary should clench after California. I'm guessing Sanders won't concede and will question the results, then continue to the convention.
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Re: US Politics Thread of Donald Drumpf |OT| Scott Adams is actually the worst
« Reply #15889 on: April 19, 2016, 10:18:03 AM »
Depending on how PA and CA go Hillary might hit the 2,383 delegates needed before the convention even happens. At that point Sanders' only hope is to sway (see: harass) the superdelegates to go against the will of the people and switch to him.

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Re: US Politics Thread of Donald Drumpf |OT| Scott Adams is actually the worst
« Reply #15890 on: April 19, 2016, 10:59:10 AM »
Even if (when) Clinton wins, won't she only end up with a max of ~2/3 of the New York delegates? Not to mention this a primary in New York, I doubt they usually get fired up to go out and vote in April. Or ever. Which benefits the candidate with more die hard supporters.

I'm just saying don't be disappointed if you get flashbacks of the Mass primary. This is going to be drawn out until us Californians allow your queen to bumble into the presidency.

You're welcome by the way. :snob

It was over after Super Tuesday II when she swept all five states that day IMO, but I'm hoping a 10-14% loss for Sanders (in a 247 delegate state) will make his saner supporters wake up (if there's any left.) The "he has momentum, we still have a majority of states left, X state Hillary won doesn't count cause reasons" will hopefully die tomorrow. Clinton will have won the four largest states delegate-wise to-date (Florida, Texas, Illinois, and now New York.) How can you argue with that?

But I might be giving Sanders fans too much credit. :P

The saner Sanders fans stopped giving a shit long ago and just want this nonsense to be over with. I've unfollowed all of my Bernie bro fb friends so I don't see their increasingly embarrassing nonsense in my newsfeed, and I voted for Bernie and gave him money. FEELS GOOD, MAN.
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« Reply #15891 on: April 19, 2016, 11:01:52 AM »
If she doesn't have the delegates needed well before the convention happens then it'll be a bigger disaster than 2008. She only needs 601 out of the remaining 1845 delegates. And there's more than a month after the last primary (D.C.) to the convention.

It's not like the GOP race, no other candidates than these two have pledged delegates. One will have won beforehand. The GOP has 190 or so delegates floating around pledged to Rubio, Jeb, etc. And 260-ish not attached to one of the remaining candidates. Plus Kasich could roll in with another 200 or so despite not being able to win.

Sanders would need an unpledged, uncommitted AND superdelegate stampede. On top of obliterating her in the remaining primaries.

As I mentioned the other day I think this is playing a role in his increasing polling. Hillary's clearly won, so more progressive yet pragmatic voters feel they can now vote for Bernie in the primary and try to move the party in general left without harming her. And people who have already voted for Hillary can say they now support Sanders to pollsters as well.

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« Reply #15892 on: April 19, 2016, 11:05:00 AM »
Of course, this assumes Obama doesn't agree to finally indict Hillary (especially with Doris Roberts now dead) in exchange for a vote on Garland.

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« Reply #15893 on: April 19, 2016, 11:11:25 AM »
The Sanders campaign is arguing a bizarre double standard, wherein Hillary must hit the 2,383 number using only pledged delegates won in caucuses and primaries out of one side of their mouth, and complaining about the existence of super delegates out of the other, yet still hoping that the super delegates come around and give him the win even though he's behind in every conceivable metric.

That particular bit of shit reasoning is a large part of why I want to throw most Bernie supporters into a fucking woodchipper.
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« Reply #15894 on: April 19, 2016, 11:19:19 AM »

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« Reply #15895 on: April 19, 2016, 11:42:55 AM »
Yeah, I really wanted Bernie to be the candidate but now that I'm betting on politics I'm forced to be more realistic :yeshrug

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« Reply #15896 on: April 19, 2016, 11:50:01 AM »
Of course, this assumes Obama doesn't agree to finally indict Hillary (especially with Doris Roberts now dead) in exchange for a vote on Garland.

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« Reply #15897 on: April 19, 2016, 12:16:35 PM »
If she doesn't have the delegates needed well before the convention happens then it'll be a bigger disaster than 2008. She only needs 601 out of the remaining 1845 delegates. And there's more than a month after the last primary (D.C.) to the convention.

It's not like the GOP race, no other candidates than these two have pledged delegates. One will have won beforehand. The GOP has 190 or so delegates floating around pledged to Rubio, Jeb, etc. And 260-ish not attached to one of the remaining candidates. Plus Kasich could roll in with another 200 or so despite not being able to win.

Sanders would need an unpledged, uncommitted AND superdelegate stampede. On top of obliterating her in the remaining primaries.

As I mentioned the other day I think this is playing a role in his increasing polling. Hillary's clearly won, so more progressive yet pragmatic voters feel they can now vote for Bernie in the primary and try to move the party in general left without harming her. And people who have already voted for Hillary can say they now support Sanders to pollsters as well.
This is basically me.  Hillary was always the eventual nominee and I like the gist of Bernie's policies so might as well vote for him.  It's not like either of them are going to win Texas anyways so who gives a shit?  I'd like to just be part of the Dem party looking to push it a little farther left. 

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« Reply #15898 on: April 19, 2016, 12:36:45 PM »


she's been doing it for decades....
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« Reply #15899 on: April 19, 2016, 12:49:34 PM »
Andykun? Will you please load me up with HillGifs so I can troll people into giving me their money?