US Politics Thread |OT| THE DARKEST TIMELINE

[Am_I_Anonymous]

Yeah, he's not winning, but I'm still voting for him in my state's primary.

And the next day you'll still be broke. This guy is a fucking clown.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

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[Human Snorenado]

Yup, #itshappening

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/huntsman-donald-trump

“We've had enough intraparty fighting. Now's the time to stitch together a winning coalition,” Huntsman told Politico. “And it's been clear almost from the beginning that Donald Trump has the ability to assemble a nontraditional bloc of supporters. … The ability to cut across traditional party boundaries — like '80, '92 and 2008 — will be key, and Trump is much better positioned to achieve that.”

AiA ARE YOU OK? CRY UNCONTROLLABLY IF YOU'RE OK.

[Joe Molotov]

NO LABELS™

[CatsCatsCats]

They really have no way forward but Trump. Sry try again in 4 yeara

[Trent Dole]

Yup, #itshappening

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/huntsman-donald-trump

“We've had enough intraparty fighting. Now's the time to stitch together a winning coalition,” Huntsman told Politico. “And it's been clear almost from the beginning that Donald Drumpf has the ability to assemble a nontraditional bloc of supporters. … The ability to cut across traditional party boundaries — like '80, '92 and 2008 — will be key, and Drumpf is much better positioned to achieve that.”

AiA ARE YOU OK? CRY UNCONTROLLABLY IF YOU'RE OK.

The candidate the party deserves.

[Phoenix Dark]

https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/727192606589886464

for the first time in my life....I feel bad for Ted Cruz. jeeeesus

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Ted Cruz's campaign fell apart in just one week.  Amazing.

[Human Snorenado]

Right before he had to win the Indiana primary, too.

Also- why the fuck don't we have a Trump smilie?

[Mandark]

Cruz now has a negative net favorability rating among Republicans.  Sheesh.

[Trent Dole]

Fail at being a viable alternate to a literal fascist brehs.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

One other thing to note: John Kasich has no events planned on his website or his Eventbrite.  I wonder if he is going to withdraw after tomorrow night.  He was campaigning in California and Oregon but not anymore.

Edit: even people in his own home state want him to drop out: http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/politics/blogs/2016/05/02/poll-ohioans-want-john-kasich-drop-out/83814886/

[Atramental]

Ted is a mess.
*mic hit*
Ted is a waste.
*air horn*

[Joe Molotov]

Ted is a big fat mistake.

[Oblivion]

https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/727192606589886464

for the first time in my life....I feel bad for Ted Cruz. jeeeesus

I don't. 

[benjipwns]

CARMEL, Ind. — Heidi Cruz knows that her husband, Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, is not the Zodiac Killer, no matter what people online say.

Heidi spent Monday morning traveling across Indiana in support of her husband’s presidential campaign. At a cafe in Carmel, Yahoo News asked for her reaction to a series of jokes that Comedy Central host Larry Wilmore made at the White House Correspondents’ dinner on Saturday night, where he repeatedly called her husband “the Zodiac Killer.”

“Well, I’ve been married to him for 15 years, and I know pretty well who he is, so it doesn’t bother me at all. There’s a lot of garbage out there,” Heidi said.

Yahoo News asked Heidi about his remarks after a pair of supporters she met with marveled at her ability to “deal with” the “smearing and the scorched-earth stuff going on” during this heated GOP primary.

“Well, it’s amazing how a lot of people are swayed by it,” Heidi said. “Part of it is, the news media is 24/7, and they don’t let up.”

Note that she doesn't specifically deny he's the Zodiac killer.

[Joe Molotov]

[Am_I_Anonymous]

CARMEL, Ind. — Heidi Cruz knows that her husband, Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, is not the Zodiac Killer, no matter what people online say.

Heidi spent Monday morning traveling across Indiana in support of her husband’s presidential campaign. At a cafe in Carmel, Yahoo News asked for her reaction to a series of jokes that Comedy Central host Larry Wilmore made at the White House Correspondents’ dinner on Saturday night, where he repeatedly called her husband “the Zodiac Killer.”

“Well, I’ve been married to him for 15 years, and I know pretty well who he is, so it doesn’t bother me at all. There’s a lot of garbage out there,” Heidi said.

Yahoo News asked Heidi about his remarks after a pair of supporters she met with marveled at her ability to “deal with” the “smearing and the scorched-earth stuff going on” during this heated GOP primary.

“Well, it’s amazing how a lot of people are swayed by it,” Heidi said. “Part of it is, the news media is 24/7, and they don’t let up.”

Note that she doesn't specifically deny he's the Zodiac killer.

[Madrun Badrun]

Is it really murder if you are a fish monster or just nature?

[Joe Molotov]

Also, Ted Cruz's dad did the JFK assassination.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/donald-trump-rafael-cruz-lee-harvey-oswald

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Ted Cruz had another meltdown this morning.

[Joe Molotov]

"Donald Trump is such a narcissist that Barack Obama looks at him and says, 'Dude, what's your problem?' " Cruz said.

[Brehvolution]

http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/george-will-is-a-haughty-dipshit-1774449290

[Phoenix Dark]

George Will should have been left unemployed and starving ages ago.

A Green Shinobi Joint

[Mandark]

It's pretty amazing the career George Will has built by cosplaying a smart person.

[Human Snorenado]

Even more amazing: the careers of Mark Halperin and Bill Kristol.

[Great Rumbler]

People are still convinced that the GOP establishment is going to be able to successfully pull off a hail mary at the convention, even if Trump far surpasses the number of delegates he needs to win.

[VomKriege]

You say that but just wait for Trump's name to be associated with the FBI inquiry into Clinton's emails. 

[I'm a Puppy!]

Cruz has lost all momentum. Fiorina was a flash in the pan.

[Great Rumbler]

"If Indiana does not act, this country could well plunge into the abyss. I don't believe that's who we are. We are not a proud, boastful, self-centered, mean-spirited, hateful, bullying nation," Cruz later added.

Okay, dude.

[brawndolicious]

Fucking Indiana steals our glory and ends this primary. It also feels like Trump finally defeated somebody I really idolized once. I mean Nate Silver.

Does this mean that if he gets 1237 though then there's no way he can't be the nominee? Like besides Mitt Romney sicking some Illuminati assassins on him or something.

[Oblivion]

Cruz has lost all momentum. Fiorina was a flash in the pan.

[Human Snorenado]

More like Windiana. LET'S MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!

[Oblivion]

  LYIN' TED DROPS OUT

This also means that Fiorina is officially the first person in history to lose a primary battle TWICE. 

[nachobro]

[brob]

shout out to kasich coming in second 

[Human Snorenado]

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:trump plz mods

[Oblivion]

https://twitter.com/iamjoonlee/status/727661900989931521

[Phoenix Dark]

https://twitter.com/Green_Footballs/status/727662413051371520

the gift that keeps on giving

[Kara]

No Diablos, but Trump is giving me horrible deja vu of the Arnold running in the recall election variety.

Hate to say I told you so, but I told you so.

Karakandamus

[Kara]

BTW Cajole, I'm blocking Nate Pyrite and 538 (out of 6.02 * 10 ^ 23) dot com on the family internet. You'll thank me when you're older.

[Great Rumbler]

Won't he drop like a rock once we get in the real political machine though ?

"Drop like a rock" implies that he'll ever actually be at a point high enough to fall from.

[CatsCatsCats]

Lol won a bunch of money on the margin of error in Indiana. Not gonna lie, thought it was gonna be Hillary but >+4 is a win either way

[I'm a Puppy!]

I thought Cruz was in it til the end. I'm so confused. Apparently running with Fiorina was more terrible than I thought.

[ToxicAdam]

How does Kasich look at the results in Indiana (7 percent), a state which borders his home state, and think he's still "in the race"?

If you can't even make border states competitive, you need to gtfo.

[Mandark]

BTW Cajole, I'm blocking Nate Pyrite and 538 (out of 6.02 * 10 ^ 23) dot com on the family internet. You'll thank me when you're older.

My favorite subplot is how many people have apparently been seething mad at Nate Silver and waiting literally years to say "NOT SO SMART NOW, HUH!?"

[Mandark]

How does Kasich look at the results in Indiana (7 percent), a state which borders his home state, and think he's still "in the race"?

From the pictures of him on the trail, his campaign is an elaborate ruse to eat deli meals across the country with other people's money.  Making him the GOP candidate I can relate to the most.

[Kara]

I've been crusading against baseball atheism for like a decade now on GAF + its descendants.

[Kara]

Time to make my exit to New Zealand. Bye yall

I don't think Geert will let you go to Old Zealand, good choice.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

I honestly thought that Kasich would drop out tonight.  This is a surprise.

Since Cruz is suspending his campaign, his 565 delegates may be redistributed or become unbound, depending on state party rules.  So Trump could very well go from 1059 delegates currently to well past the 1237 point in the next couple days.

For example, all of the delegates Cruz picked up in the Colorado caucus are now unbound: https://twitter.com/ByJohnFrank/status/727662476322480129

[Syph]

Wow what a nightmare
it's actually gonna be Trump and Clinton how fucked is that lol

oh wait reddit says bernie still has a chance
yea and Kasich will win cali lol

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

BTW Cajole, I'm blocking Nate Pyrite and 538 (out of 6.02 * 10 ^ 23) dot com on the family internet. You'll thank me when you're older.

My favorite subplot is how many people have apparently been seething mad at Nate Silver and waiting literally years to say "NOT SO SMART NOW, HUH!?"

Ah yes, I suppose it doesn't have anything to do with making multiple incorrect forecasts and predictions.  No, it was just years of ruminating and plotting, waiting for the moment to strike...

[Mandark]

Dude, being resentful is your brand on here.  Embrace it.

[nachobro]

What a fucking dunce 

[Great Rumbler]

There was also the moment a few days ago where Fiorina fell down right in front of him and he deliberately ignored it.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Also this:

[benjipwns]

It's pretty amazing the career George Will has built by cosplaying a smart person.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/04/15/AR2009041502861.html

On any American street, or in any airport or mall, you see the same sad tableau: A 10-year-old boy is walking with his father, whose development was evidently arrested when he was that age, judging by his clothes. Father and son are dressed identically -- running shoes, T-shirts. And jeans, always jeans. If mother is there, she, too, is draped in denim.

This is not complicated. For men, sartorial good taste can be reduced to one rule: If Fred Astaire would not have worn it, don't wear it. For women, substitute Grace Kelly.

Edmund Burke -- what he would have thought of the denimization of America can be inferred from his lament that the French Revolution assaulted "the decent drapery of life"; it is a straight line from the fall of the Bastille to the rise of denim -- said: "To make us love our country, our country ought to be lovely." Ours would be much more so if supposed grown-ups would heed St. Paul's first letter to the Corinthians, and St. Barack's inaugural sermon to the Americans, by putting away childish things, starting with denim.

Even more amazing: the careers of Mark Halperin and Bill Kristol.

http://billkristoltheory.blogspot.com/
http://www.thewire.com/politics/2011/06/giuliani-bill-kristol-and-bad-predictions-timeline/38655/
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/01/bill-kristol-urges-the-republican-party-to-dump-ron-paul/251619/
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/01/bill-kristol-declares-peak-trump-again.html

Like the time in 2006 when he predicted on Fox News that Barack Obama wouldn’t win a single primary against Hillary Clinton. Or when he predicted that Obama would appoint then-Michigan Gov. Jennifer Granholm to the Supreme Court. Or when he said repeatedly in October that Vice President Biden was about to jump into the 2016 presidential race. Or when he predicted a victory by Marco Rubio in New Hampshire earlier this month.

Or that time he said in the Weekly Standard that Rudy Giuliani would run in 2012. Or that time on Fox when he said convicted Sen. Ted Stevens would be re-elected. Or when he said in 1993 that a march on Washington that year would be “the high-water mark” for the gay and lesbian rights movement

As an advocate of the Bush administration’s decision to invade Iraq, he said, among other things, that the war “could have terrifically good effects throughout the Middle East”; that Saddam Hussein was “past that finish line” in developing nuclear weapons; that “if we free the people of Iraq we will be respected in the Arab world.” He also said, “Very few wars in American history were prepared better or more thoroughly than this one by this president.” He predicted on C-SPAN that it would be a “two-month war, not an eight-year war.”

When Bill Maher mentioned to Kristol on his HBO program in 2014 that Kristol had made “some bad predictions” about the war, Kristol neither explained nor apologized. “I certainly did,” he said.

“With Kristol what I love are not so much the big, grand predictions that are always wrong, but the smaller ones that really demonstrate how poor his actual grasp of politics is,” says Alex Pareene, the editor of Gawker, one of Kristol’s regular tormentors. “He is sort of ideologically motivated to make certain ridiculous claims — Iraq will be a huge success, Romney will win — and even his ‘peak Trump’ predictions are based on the fact that he can’t abide the ongoing rejection of his entire ethos by Republican voters. But it’s when he makes claims that are just wrong but not motivated by the advancement of his worldview . . . that we see just how bad he is at his ostensible job.”

Kristol says he sometimes sees the pushback his predictions draw on Twitter or on the Internet. But usually he doesn’t. “I don’t look at the [Twitter] notifications,” he says. “I don’t get Google alerts on it, so I’m a little oblivious.”

January 19, 1998:
...abortion is likely to emerge as the central issue in the presidential campaign of 2000. Or, more precisely, the status of Roe v. Wade is likely to emerge as the central issue.

November 6, 1995:
Lamar Alexander. Bill Clinton. Bob Dole. Newt Gingrich. Phil Gramm. Colin Powell. One of these six will almost certainly be our next president. Which will it be? Not, I think, Clinton... Clinton is weak and untrustworthy at a time when Americans crave strength and honesty.

September 8, 1995:
Suddenly, Bob Dole's nomination no longer seems inevitable. Having won less than a quarter of the vote in the Iowa straw poll, he now trails Bill Clinton in national surveys. Focus groups suggest that the age issue is beginning to bite, and the return of a campaign contribution to a group of gay Republicans indicates a touch of panic. Maybe the Dole campaign will shake off these troubles and cruise to victory. But maybe not... If I had to bet today on one person for the Republican presidential nomination, I'd put my money on Colin Powell.

the king

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

http://www.theatlantic.com/daily-dish/archive/2009/09/anecdote-of-the-day/196337/

"I remember back in the late 1990s, when Ira Katznelson, an eminent political scientist at Columbia, came to deliver a guest lecture. Prof. Katznelson described a lunch he had with Irving Kristol during the first Bush administration.

The talk turned to William Kristol, then Dan Quayle's chief of staff, and how he got his start in politics.

Irving recalled how he talked to his friend Harvey Mansfield at Harvard, who secured William a place there as both an undergrad and graduate student; how he talked to Pat Moynihan, then Nixon's domestic policy adviser, and got William an internship at the White House; how he talked to friends at the RNC [Republican National Committee] and secured a job for William after he got his Harvard Ph.D.; and how he arranged with still more friends for William to teach at Penn and the Kennedy School of Government.

"With that, Prof. Katznelson recalled, he then asked Irving what he thought of affirmative action. 'I oppose it,' Irving replied. 'It subverts meritocracy.' "

[benjipwns]

"Donald Trump is such a narcissist that Barack Obama looks at him and says, 'Dude, what's your problem?' " Cruz said.

"If Indiana does not act, this country could well plunge into the abyss. I don't believe that's who we are. We are not a proud, boastful, self-centered, mean-spirited, hateful, bullying nation," Cruz later added.

Okay, dude.

the manners and grace that should lubricate the nation’s civic life

[benjipwns]

How does Kasich look at the results in Indiana (7 percent), a state which borders his home state, and think he's still "in the race"?

If you can't even make border states competitive, you need to gtfo.