US Politics Thread |OT| THE DARKEST TIMELINE

[HyperZoneWasAwesome]

he was a fabulist, but he was also a decorated Navy Seal who had a ridiculously accomplished military career.

Something the movie touched on (briefly), and Kyle's life and book show inadvertently, is that he was a guy who suffered majorly from PTSD, but didn't really have a full grasp on how much it had effected him. Yeah, he got kinda kooky there, and because of his death we'll never know why, but we (okay, maybe just me) sure can take a guess as to why.


anyways the whole controversy would have been avoided if Bradley Cooper had shown up the DNC without wearing that beard.

[Steve Contra]

Can we make that gif Jaydubya's signature?

[Human Snorenado]

Or better yet, just turn all of his posts into that

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Poll fuckery:

http://polling.reuters.com/#!poll/TM651Y15_13/filters/LIKELY:1/type/smallest/dates/20160701-20160729/collapsed/true/spotlight/1
http://polling.reuters.com/#poll/TM651Y15_DS_13/filters/LIKELY:1

Just by altering questions, one has Trump up by nine points and another has Clinton up by six points.

[TakingBackSunday]

poll fuckery indeed.  wait until at least september

538 has ohio and florida leaning red.  I don't find either likely, Ohio in particular.

[Tasty]

http://ashigara.tumblr.com/post/148169184439/velo-were-there-any-good-cosplays-at-the-dnc

[Madrun Badrun]

http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-36927523

what the shit.

You guys are gonna get president Trump.

[Great Rumbler]

http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-36927523

what the shit.

You guys are gonna get president Trump.

Thanks Putin

[TakingBackSunday]

Trump can't win all the swing states: Ohio, Florida, PA, Missouri, Nevada, Colorado, Iowa, Wisconsin, Virginia, NC, and NH.

This is the absolute best I can see him going

http://www.270towin.com/maps/rDx4J

This gives him all the crazy close toss-ups.

But I don't see Ohio going his way, nor do I see Florida doing so.

[Trent Dole]

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/28/politics/donald-trump-dnc-response/

People actually cheered for this.

The fuck.

What, you don't like metaphorical sociopathery?

[benjipwns]

Poll fuckery:

http://polling.reuters.com/#!poll/TM651Y15_13/filters/LIKELY:1/type/smallest/dates/20160701-20160729/collapsed/true/spotlight/1

dat refused number from the start of the month to the end

[benjipwns]

https://twitter.com/McJesse/status/759097584531243008

[Syph]

Trump can't win all the swing states: Ohio, Florida, PA, Missouri, Nevada, Colorado, Iowa, Wisconsin, Virginia, NC, and NH.

This is the absolute best I can see him going

http://www.270towin.com/maps/rDx4J

This gives him all the crazy close toss-ups.

But I don't see Ohio going his way, nor do I see Florida doing so.

yea the math is so difficult for trump
i could see it being like 00 Gore winning pop but losing electoral

lol Al Gore

edit: '00 woops

[Great Rumbler]

https://twitter.com/McJesse/status/759097584531243008

Everything really was better before GWB and 9/11.

[Tasty]

[Tasty]

https://twitter.com/mcclure111/status/759082010484805633

[Phoenix Dark]

https://twitter.com/mcclure111/status/759082010484805633

All it takes is the right question from a concerned mother and she'll be pandering, bro.

[Joe Molotov]

https://twitter.com/McJesse/status/759097584531243008

 

[Tasty]

https://twitter.com/mcclure111/status/759082010484805633

All it takes is the right question from a concerned mother and she'll be pandering, bro.

Innocent until proven guilty.

[VomKriege]

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-father-fallen-soldier-ive-made-lot/story?id=41015051

Trump also said, “If you look at his wife, she was standing there. She had nothing to say. She probably, maybe she wasn't allowed to have anything to say. You tell me.”

What a class act.

It's not difficult to see why Russia would be willing to try to influence the election : The loss of US prestige on the international scene with such a president is bound to be bad, I'd suspect worse than W.Bush, and that's the best case scenario. Even on a short leash, you know the man will have terrible manners.

[Mandark]

Not that I think it will really affect the election, but Trump's inability to let any criticism slide is pretty amazing.

[brob]

https://twitter.com/mcclure111/status/759082010484805633

All it takes is the right question from a concerned mother and she'll be pandering, bro.

“I am committed to make investments to find the causes of autism, including possible environmental causes like vaccines. . . . We don’t know what, if any, kind of link there is between vaccines and autism — but we should find out.”

[Joe Molotov]

Benji burns an American flag at the DNC, gets Gawker to post a Bob Avakian explainer:
http://gawker.com/the-dnc-flag-burner-is-an-american-hero-and-a-member-of-1784492419

“We support an actual revolution, a revolution that overthrows this system, and we in the Revolutionary Communist Party are organizing for that actual revolution at the soonest possible moment. People need to get with that revolution. They need to check out the leader of that revolution, Bob Avakian.”

 

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[Tasty]

https://twitter.com/mcclure111/status/759082010484805633

All it takes is the right question from a concerned mother and she'll be pandering, bro.

“I am committed to make investments to find the causes of autism, including possible environmental causes like vaccines. . . . We don’t know what, if any, kind of link there is between vaccines and autism — but we should find out.”

This in 2008, before much of the truth about vaccines/autism came out in 2010. It's also a different answer than the other three current candidates in that it shows a deference towards the scientific community and the scientific process. Try again.

[Rufus]

Leave that "Try again" nonsense to AiA.

[Tasty]

Leave that "Try again" nonsense to AiA.

That'd mean something to me if you made 1/10 the money I do.

[curly]

http://www.snopes.com/is-green-party-candidate-jill-stein-anti-vaccine/ Believing the lamestream media's lies

She's definitely pandering tho but it's not really different than the hillary quote above

[Syph]

https://twitter.com/CharlotteAlter/status/758882324578570240

 

"did you laugh at them?"

"no, that would be a microaggression"

[Bebpo]

This is election is way too close for comfort.  Like I don't even understand the white male people who are like "well I have nothing at stake here," if Trump starts WWIII, or even some more smaller wars and it's going to effect everyone. 

And before anyone says WWIII is not going to happen.  I think it's very unlikely that a war of that scale would happen, but with Trump I'd put the chance number above 1% and that's still way too high.

[TakingBackSunday]

Make sure you vote then.

[Bebpo]

I'm already voting.  I'm actually trying to look into if there's any kind of democratic event stuff I can do to help spread the word since I live in one of the only goddamn counties in West Coast California that is red.  I'd love it if Orange County could turn blue someday. 

[TakingBackSunday]

Living in Tennessee, it's hard to get jazzed about voting.  I really wish I could've kept my registration in Ohio.

[ToxicAdam]

Trump is an awful racist tyrant demagogue. But at least he presents a real face to what Republicanism has become/is since the civil rights era. At least the distinction is clear. You can't pretend anymore. In that sense its probably the most honest election we've ever had.

Trump is  the death rattle of the worst traits of the Baby Boom generation.

I still wouldn't mind seeing him win for the absurdity of it all. But that's just my disassociation speaking.

[Samson Manhug]

I still wouldn't mind seeing him win for the absurdity of it all.

Stuff white people say™

[bluemax]

https://twitter.com/bdunbar/status/759548061823733760

rekt

[Tasty]

Two 9+ liked posts on a single page

I've become as like-whorey as Dufus

[CatsCatsCats]

After reading that, I had to go back to make sure I didn't like either of them

[Syph]

Like this status if you were part of this forum before Tasty Meat got 9+ liked posts 

[Madrun Badrun]

New page.  Those posts are in the past now.

[Stoney Mason]

[helios]

https://twitter.com/SopanDeb/status/759795923895582720/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

This whole Khan thing is amazing

[helios]

https://twitter.com/SopanDeb/status/759795923895582720/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

This whole Khan thing is amazing

Now with video

https://mediamatters.org/video/2016/07/31/cnns-brian-stelter-shuts-down-trump-campaigns-attempt-spin-attacks-khizr-khan/212045

[recursivelyenumerable]

TBH the whole 3 am thing is only a problem because of cheapskate understaffing, we ought to just hire a couple additional presidents for night shift and graveyard shift, problem solved.

[benjipwns]

TBH the whole 3 am thing is only a problem because of cheapskate understaffing, we ought to just hire a couple additional presidents for night shift and graveyard shift, problem solved.

Look at William Paterson over here.

[benjipwns]

SHE LIED! Hillary’s Tearjerker About Handicapped Girl in Wheelchair in DNC Speech WAS ALL A LIE!

Here’s what I learned; The Mayor of New Bedford in 1973 was a guy I happen to know, Mayor John Markey (81 years old and a lifelong Democrat now living in Dartmouth, MA. Mayor Markey is also a retired judge and a man whose credibility and character are beyond reproach. “Jack” as he is known, is eligible for both court and municipal pension but only accepts one. He is not one to “double dip”. I called Jack and asked him a few questions about handicap services in 1973 at the New Bedford Public Schools, including wheelchair accessibility.

“I took over as Mayor in January of 1973. We had a budget for vans with drivers and provided services to students with disabilities. It was Tremblay Bus. They would pick them up and drop them off at their homes. Now, they may not have been able to go to the local school, depending on whether or not the schools were accessible for wheelchairs but there were many schools then which could and did accommodate our handicapped students in wheelchairs”.

“In fact, we had a local guy who was a paraplegic, injured in a diving accident who came to my office many times to advocate for the disabled and I actually spent an entire day in 1973 in a wheelchair to better understand the challenges they face everyday. Soon after that we were cutting out sidewalks for wheelchairs and doing things in New Bedford before the laws ever compelled us to.”

So despite the progressive and good works of the New Bedford leadership in 1973 to make the city schools and streets more handicap accessible, Hillary (no pun intended) rolled New Bedford local government under the bus last night in front of the world. And needed to lie to do it. It just didn’t seem possible in those days Hillary, because it wasn’t true in 1973 New Bedford.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

https://twitter.com/RealKhizrKhan

Is this real?

[benjipwns]

He's going against the Twitter Champion with this material? https://twitter.com/RealKhizrKhan/status/759848972714381313

[Joe Molotov]

TRUMP: Well, look, you know, I have my own ideas. He’s not going into Ukraine, OK?

Just so you understand. He’s not going to go into Ukraine, all right?

You can mark it down and you can put it down, you can take it anywhere you want.

STEPHANOPOULOS: Well, he’s already there, isn’t he?

TRUMP: OK, well, he’s there in a certain way, but I’m not there yet. You have Obama there. And frankly, that whole part of the world is a mess under Obama, with all the strength that you’re talking about and all of the power of NATO and all of this, in the meantime, he’s going where — he takes — takes Crimea, he’s sort of — I mean…

STEPHANOPOULOS: But you said you might recognize that.

TRUMP: I’m going to take a look at it. But, you know, the people of Crimea, from what I’ve heard, would rather be with Russia than where they were. And you have to look at that, also.

Now, that was under — just so you understand, that was done under Obama’s administration. And as far as the Ukraine is concerned, it’s a mess. And that’s under the Obama’s administration, with his strong ties to NATO.

So with all of these strong ties to NATO, Ukraine is a mess. Crimea has been taken. Don’t blame Donald Trump for that.

[Phoenix Dark]

It's pretty clear Trump hasn't benefited from any of the briefings and crash courses his staff and RNC officials are (presumably) giving him on foreign and domestic policy. He constantly sounds like someone who hasn't thought about this shit for 5 minutes.

No wonder he doesn't want to debate. And unlike in 08 with Biden/Palin, Hillary won't have to use kid gloves.

[benjipwns]

I liked the Biden/Palin debate. It made me like both candidates more.

Actually, except for Biden/Ryan, I've liked the VP debates more back to at least "Who am I? Why am I here?"

Pence/Kaine feels like it has fail written all over it.

[Great Rumbler]

It's pretty clear Trump hasn't benefited from any of the briefings and crash courses his staff and RNC officials are (presumably) giving him on foreign and domestic policy. He constantly sounds like someone who hasn't thought about this shit for 5 minutes.

No wonder he doesn't want to debate. And unlike in 08 with Biden/Palin, Hillary won't have to use kid gloves.

Trump basically has to get out of the one-on-one debates by any means possible. His bully tactics worked in the GOP primary, in large part because that's the kind of thing the audience wanted to hear, but to undecideds and independents in the general? Nah, he's going to look like an ignorant bully in front of a prime-time audience. Hillary's best tactic, if he tries to back out, is to just hit him over and over on being a coward for not wanting to debate, that would probably make him angry to change his mind.

[benjipwns]

I think you can't just do one debate with Trump. You probably want a second.

Chances are too high that he can steamroll for that first one and get away with it. Hillary will do better simply because you know it's coming and its just her but that's how he bumrushed the GOP and the moderators without consequence initially.

[Phoenix Dark]

Trump benefited from a billion people being on stage during the GOP debates. He was pretty forgettable in the debate he did with just Kasich, Rubio, and Cruz. I agree he can bullshit through some of the debate with Hillary but overall he's going to look bad.

Hillary's best move would be to get Trump angry and also ask him direct questions.

[benjipwns]

Allowing the candidates to ask each other questions would be amazing.

[Syph]

Pence/Kaine feels like it has fail written all over it.

in what way?

[benjipwns]

Just not very interesting, a combination of personalities that I've seen. Plus I feel like it'd be a lot of tightroping their running mates positions on stuff. More so than usual even because of the outsized base issues.

I guess maybe if Kaine snorts a bunch of coke like he did before his DNC speech. Though then maybe it'd be like Pumped-Up Biden vs. Ryan. They both got more annoying as it went on and it lost its luster for me in hindsight.

[Joe Molotov]

I wonder who's going to play Trump in Hillary's debate prep. Maybe they can get Mark Cuban to do it.

[benjipwns]

I wonder who's going to play Trump in Hillary's debate prep. Maybe they can get Mark Cuban to do it.

Why don't the campaigns ever hire Darrell Hammond?

http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/dominos-ad-shoot/n11961

[Cerveza mas fina]

You know I like to make fun of Trump but Crimeans do want to be with Russia and they weren't happy with the Pro-Europe government on the other side of the country, so he is not really wrong there.

These people don't need to be saved from Russia.

[VomKriege]

Meh. The problem isn't really whether Crimeans ultimately want to be part of Ukraine or Russia (which I don't think anyone will dispute they have a theorical right to), it's that Russia more or less covertly lent an hand in forcing the issue to provoke a quick, messy and violent secession from an established nation-state in a region in need of stability then grabbed for itself a region with some strategical value. All that a few years after doing some of the same in Georgia.

At the risk of going Godwin, you could say the same for the dispute over the Sudetenland.