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« Reply #18360 on: August 05, 2016, 01:36:09 PM »
They didn't label BLM as a terrorist organization, too, while they were at it? What constraint!
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« Reply #18361 on: August 05, 2016, 01:51:50 PM »
come get your mans, andrex :gurl

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/local_coverage/2016/08/boston_police_unions_demand_more_guns_armor

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“We live in a world where a sitting President has basically ‘fanned the flames of Police hatred’ with political rhetoric and now a sitting Governor is politically afraid to speak,” the letter reads.

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Man wanted to be shot by police, officials say

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A Boston man allegedly jumped in front of a Boston police cruiser Sunday night in Roxbury and acted as if he was pulling a handgun from his waist band in what authorities described as an attempt to incite two officers to shoot him, police said.

Instead, they arrested him.

“Why didn’t you just let me tap out?’’ Bash Jean, 30, allegedly told officers after being taken into custody, according to a police report. “If this was any other place in the country, I’d be dead.

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Boston police officer shot in Dorchester

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“He is out on probation and he is out selling drugs, and that’s why he was pulled over,’’ Evans said in a news conference at the hospital.

Evans said police had boxed Headley’s car in and were moving to arrest him, but still had not unholstered their weapons. Headley jumped out of his vehicle and opened fire “unprovoked,’’ leading the officer to return fire, Evans said.

The other officers accompanying the wounded officer chased Headley on foot across Rosseter Street and onto Geneva Avenue, where he was wrestled to the ground and taken into custody without another shot being fired, Evans said.

The commissioner emphasized that point: Officers who had just seen one of their own shot by an armed suspect took him into custody without using deadly force.

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« Reply #18362 on: August 05, 2016, 03:17:48 PM »
BPD have managed to avoid bad press since they apparently don't murder the few black people in Boston at the rate other city police do, but the 'we need more guns or we can't do our jobs' hand wringing is such bullshit. They shut the whole fucking city down for a week a few years ago, for christ sake

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« Reply #18363 on: August 05, 2016, 03:54:08 PM »
come get your mans, andrex :gurl

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/local_coverage/2016/08/boston_police_unions_demand_more_guns_armor

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“We live in a world where a sitting President has basically ‘fanned the flames of Police hatred’ with political rhetoric and now a sitting Governor is politically afraid to speak,” the letter reads.

:usacry

BPD doesn't like a black guy?
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« Reply #18364 on: August 05, 2016, 04:03:17 PM »
Has Obama even explicitly come out against police violence?  I've always felt his responses have been meek at best. 


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« Reply #18366 on: August 05, 2016, 04:48:15 PM »
Way to fan the flames, Obama.

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« Reply #18367 on: August 05, 2016, 05:41:00 PM »
The FiveThirtyEight "Nowcast"  has Hilary's chances of winning at 91.7%   :lawd

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Their "polls-only" is at 81.5%, and "polls-plus" at 74.9%
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« Reply #18368 on: August 05, 2016, 06:04:29 PM »
What are the historically-red states that would be huge upsets if they turned blue?

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« Reply #18369 on: August 05, 2016, 06:15:11 PM »
What are the historically-red states that would be huge upsets if they turned blue?

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« Reply #18370 on: August 05, 2016, 06:30:37 PM »
Ahh.

Just saw Hillary is leading 4 points in fucking Georgia. :lol

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« Reply #18371 on: August 05, 2016, 06:32:55 PM »
come get your mans, andrex :gurl

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/local_coverage/2016/08/boston_police_unions_demand_more_guns_armor

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“We live in a world where a sitting President has basically ‘fanned the flames of Police hatred’ with political rhetoric and now a sitting Governor is politically afraid to speak,” the letter reads.

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Now read that back in a Boston accent.
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« Reply #18372 on: August 05, 2016, 06:37:45 PM »
What are the historically-red states that would be huge upsets if they turned blue?

In Presidential elections, the "red/blue" divide is a relatively recent thing.

Look at Clinton's 1996 win:

http://www.270towin.com/1996_Election/index.html

He won Missouri, Arkansas, Louisiana, Kentuky, Tennessee AND West Virginia.

But if we go with how things have been from 2000-on, I think it will be hella impressive, but within the realm of realistic, if Georgia, Missouri, or Arizona go for Hilary.

If any beyond that go Blue, shit will be REALLY crazy.
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« Reply #18373 on: August 05, 2016, 06:55:49 PM »
I don't think Hillary will win Georgia but it's clear the state will be blue in the near future. I'm really interested in the re-migration of blacks back to the south. Georgia's black population has been exploding for years, Atlanta is really thriving right now. Virginia's black population is also increasing, as is North Carolina's. Obama won Virginia twice and Hillary will almost certainly win it this year, whereas Obama won NC once and I think Hillary has a good shot there too.

This is happening very rapidly, whereas the rust belt will take some time to go red. Here in Michigan, Detroit's dwindling population+gentrification will likely result in the state going red in...8 years perhaps? Not sure. PA is another state that will likely go red in the future, but for now it's kept in line for democrats thanks to Philly.
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« Reply #18374 on: August 05, 2016, 07:18:38 PM »
Re: BPD stuff

(Mayor) Walsh “taken aback” by police unions’ demand for more weapons

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“I think there was some language in that letter that didn’t need to be used, and I’m not sure that letter reflects the overall feel of every officer of the city,” Walsh said. He would not support officers walking beats with long guns, he said. “There’s absolutely no need.”

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Regarding the equipment demands, officials said that in recent years, the city replaced $451,000 worth of firearms and $150,000 worth of high-powered tactical weapon vehicles known as “gun cars.” The city is spending $56 million on new radio systems, officials said, and spends $3 million per year on new police vehicles. The city invests $350,000 a year on bullet-resistant vests, officials said, but the union has not agreed to a mandatory wear policy.

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Matthew Segal, legal director of the American Civil Liberties Union of Massachusetts, said that while it is important that police feel safe, it is also important to look at what actually works — such as body cameras, which he noted have been shown to reduce use of force issues and complaints. Boston has a body camera pilot program, but no officers had stepped forward to wear the cameras as of Monday.

“It’s confusing that in Boston, there have been zero volunteers to wear body cameras, and at the same time, there has been this request for more weaponry,” Segal said. :ohhh

Former Boston police officer Thomas Nolan, who spent 27 years on the force and is now a criminology professor at Merrimack College, said the union letter was “shrill if not hysterical.”

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Basically it's union shitheads trying to play political hardball to get cushier gigs. Not really a new phenomenon tbh.

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« Reply #18375 on: August 05, 2016, 07:20:11 PM »
And also, re: Jeb! stuff

Jeb Bush was in Boston — but he wasn’t ‘wandering’



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When asked why he was in town, Bush merely replied, “Business” — and then stopped e-mailing.

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« Reply #18376 on: August 05, 2016, 08:57:45 PM »
This is happening very rapidly, whereas the rust belt will take some time to go red. Here in Michigan, Detroit's dwindling population+gentrification will likely result in the state going red in...8 years perhaps? Not sure. PA is another state that will likely go red in the future, but for now it's kept in line for democrats thanks to Philly.
will it though? The younger generations are trending way liberal, and the GOP is doing their best to be increasingly less inclusive (their efforts are working). I don't see how any state becomes more conservative over time as to how the Republicans seem to be doing anything, anything at all against forestalling their own dinosaur-ness.

W got 40 ought percent of the Latino vote, McCain got 30 ought, Romney bout 20 something, Trump...

I just don't see how they ever regain those people who have left the party until they make some major changes, which they seemingly cant/wont do.

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« Reply #18377 on: August 05, 2016, 10:16:22 PM »
Who would have thought that aggressively appealing to a shrinking electorate, at the exclusion of all others, would end up being a bad idea?
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« Reply #18378 on: August 06, 2016, 12:13:38 AM »
This is happening very rapidly, whereas the rust belt will take some time to go red. Here in Michigan, Detroit's dwindling population+gentrification will likely result in the state going red in...8 years perhaps? Not sure. PA is another state that will likely go red in the future, but for now it's kept in line for democrats thanks to Philly.
will it though? The younger generations are trending way liberal, and the GOP is doing their best to be increasingly less inclusive (their efforts are working). I don't see how any state becomes more conservative over time as to how the Republicans seem to be doing anything, anything at all against forestalling their own dinosaur-ness.

W got 40 ought percent of the Latino vote, McCain got 30 ought, Romney bout 20 something, Trump...

I just don't see how they ever regain those people who have left the party until they make some major changes, which they seemingly cant/wont do.

In Michigan's case, the black population in Wayne County (Detroit) is decreasing as young and middle aged whites move in. Yes young voters are more often liberal but the whiter Detroit gets the less of a guarantee dem power base it'll be. Michigan is pretty red already outside of a handful of high population urban areas/university cities. Once that's diluted we'll be a lean red swing state.

Michigan isn't the only Rust Belt state where this is happening. Blacks are moving to suburbs or down south in many cases as white people return to the city.
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« Reply #18379 on: August 06, 2016, 12:42:31 AM »
Younger generations don't stay "way liberal" as they age for whatever reason.

And what constitutes "conservative" is all relative.

The GOP base won't let people like Ryan/Cruz/Paul truly ever touch Social Security/Medicare. The Democrats will have to deal with reforming the entitlement system to get the totalitarian social welfare state they secretly openly want. Republicans will be running on keeping government hands off entitlements and cutting taxes.

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« Reply #18381 on: August 06, 2016, 01:18:21 AM »
Younger religious social conservatives are comparatively easier to placate and more tolerant than their Moral Majority predecessors. That only benefits the GOP as they can widen their tent some on things like gay rights which has greater acceptance even among the very religious than in older generations which made no acceptance.

In some respects the Democrats might have a more difficult time on culture wars within their party as they could be coming back into a cycle of rabid hardliners like the 1970s depending on how much of a factor the campus-left social studies warriors can play in internal party politics.

It's just a shame the Bernie people couldn't get a plank in the platform regarding regulation of imdb scores.

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« Reply #18382 on: August 06, 2016, 01:19:10 AM »
Younger generations don't stay "way liberal" as they age for whatever reason.

And what constitutes "conservative" is all relative.

The GOP base won't let people like Ryan/Cruz/Paul truly ever touch Social Security/Medicare. The Democrats will have to deal with reforming the entitlement system to get the totalitarian social welfare state they secretly openly want. Republicans will be running on keeping government hands off entitlements and cutting taxes.
yeah, but pretty much anybody under 40 doesn't hate gay people, believes in climate change, wants greater economic and social equity...

these aren't necessarily liberal positions, the GOP could take those off the table, or at least address them in some fashion (there are some market based solutions to fighting climate change they could easily be championing). But they're not, they're leaving voters on the table. I mean, holy shit, Ted Cruz was still campaigning on social regression and 'religious liberty' fer crying out loud, which, ironically, wouldn't get him any new converts, so to speak.

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« Reply #18383 on: August 06, 2016, 01:31:10 AM »
This wasn't what I was looking for, but is interesting and close enough:


This one is amusing too, the gap on some of those Democratic ones, also the ones where both parties move towards the extreme as education increases:
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« Reply #18384 on: August 06, 2016, 03:39:03 AM »
Wow. What a terrible, terrible way to visualize that data.
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« Reply #18388 on: August 06, 2016, 08:37:38 AM »
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« Reply #18389 on: August 06, 2016, 12:28:22 PM »


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« Reply #18391 on: August 06, 2016, 01:50:44 PM »
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« Reply #18392 on: August 06, 2016, 02:26:26 PM »
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As of the beginning of August, 265,723 low-income Louisianians have newly signed up for Medicaid, according to state officials.

The state’s former governor, Republican Bobby Jindal, was a fierce foe of expanding Medicaid eligibility, however, calling universal health coverage a “liberal shibboleth” and warning that expansion would “jeopardize the care of the most vulnerable in our society.”

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Other states that have expanded Medicaid through Obamacare are seeing a similar flood of low-income patients seeking insurance. Medicaid sign-ups in Montana are already double what the state expected, just seven months after expansion began there. In Michigan, enrollment last year surpassed what state officials projected it would be in 2020.

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But Jindal’s mismanagement of the state’s budget helped Democrat John Bel Edwards sweep into office in November on the promise to reverse Jindal’s policies and expand Medicaid eligibility.

The outpouring since sign-ups began in June has surprised even the program’s biggest advocates.

Though Louisiana set up a system to automatically enroll thousands, many more low-income Louisianians came forward on their own, seeking help that many had put off for years because they couldn’t afford it.
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-obamacare-medicaid-expansion-20160804-snap-story.html
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« Reply #18393 on: August 06, 2016, 02:31:35 PM »
Man I'm neeeeever gonna stop clowning white liberals who opposed the ACA cause it was "corporatist."

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« Reply #18394 on: August 06, 2016, 02:35:06 PM »
But think how much better it would be with a public option. Or had Obama pushed for single payer instead of folding immediately.

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« Reply #18395 on: August 06, 2016, 03:53:16 PM »
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/newt-gingrich-campaign-debt_us_57a4d293e4b03ba6801241c7
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Gingrich filed a document with the Federal Election Commission this week detailing a debt settlement plan to finally terminate his 2012 presidential campaign committee. The document shows that “Newt 2012” plans to stiff 114 businesses and consultants that are altogether owed $4.6 million.

The former House speaker, failed presidential candidate and Donald Trump vice president runner-up was forced to file the debt settlement plan with the FEC as part of its alternative dispute resolution process. Gingrich was the subject of a complaint alleging that his campaign had illegally commingled campaign funds with corporate funds from a company controlled by Gingrich and his wife Callista.

While the FEC general counsel found reason to believe the allegations in the complaint, the six commissioners split along ideological lines in a 3-3 vote, it did not penalize Gingrich. Instead, the campaign agreed to file a debt settlement plan and terminate in 2016. The plan was originally due on May 23, but Gingrich was granted an extension until August 1.

The debt settlement plan document indicates the “total amount to be paid to creditors” is zero dollars.   

Gingrich did not respond to a request for comment made through two spokespeople.

It’s common for political campaigns to wind up in debt that takes years to pay off ― President Barack Obama’s 2012 campaign still owes $725,583, down from nearly $2 million two years ago ― but Gingrich owes an unusually large amount from his battle with Mitt Romney in the 2012 Republican primary.

The debts are owed to small firms that helped the Gingrich campaign knock on doors, call voters, produce TV ads and distribute yard signs. In 2012, The Huffington Post interviewed several vendors who were pretty mad about getting stiffed. The sums involved ― tens, even hundreds of thousands of dollars ― weren’t chump change for a small business.

“We got burned,” a Las Vegas graphics company owner said then.

But by last year, several vendors seemed to accept the fact that Newt would never pay, so they had given up contacting the campaign in an effort to collect.
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« Reply #18396 on: August 06, 2016, 05:58:10 PM »
Why can't anyone in this election cycle apparently put together a decent visualization of data :stahp
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« Reply #18397 on: August 06, 2016, 06:33:08 PM »
Why can't anyone in this election cycle apparently put together a decent visualization of data :stahp

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Trump = :donot

Johnson =  :hans1

Stein =    :idont
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« Reply #18398 on: August 06, 2016, 07:09:45 PM »
Hillary: :larry

Trump:  :donot

Johnson/libertarians:  :comeon

Stein:  :oreilly
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« Reply #18399 on: August 06, 2016, 07:15:14 PM »
Hillary:  :rejoice

Trump: :sheik

Johnson: :paul

Stein:  :hans1

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« Reply #18400 on: August 06, 2016, 09:56:02 PM »
The New York Times: "As Donald Trump Incites Feuds, Other G.O.P. Candidates Flee His Shadow"

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In the world of Republican “super PACs,” strategists are going even farther: discussing advertisements that would treat Mr. Trump’s defeat as a given and urge voters to send Republicans to Congress as a check on a Hillary Clinton White House. The discussions were described by officials familiar with the deliberations, several of whom spoke on the condition of anonymity about confidential planning.

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What stops Republicans from disavowing Mr. Trump en masse is that they fear alienating his voters, who may be crucial to the party’s efforts to retain its congressional majorities. In an era in which fewer voters split their tickets, it is important to Republican leaders that Mr. Trump at least run competitively with Mrs. Clinton to avert a down-ballot wipeout.

“Do we run the risk of depressing our base by repudiating the guy, or do we run the risk of being tarred and feathered by independents for not repudiating him?” asked Glen Bolger, a Republican pollster working on many of this year’s races. “We’re damned if we do and damned if we don’t.”



Republicans already bracing for a Hillary victory and desperately flailing around to prevent a congressional wipeout...


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« Reply #18402 on: August 06, 2016, 11:40:00 PM »
 :doge :doge :doge

That man REALLY wants to bone his daughter.  :doge

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« Reply #18403 on: August 06, 2016, 11:40:31 PM »
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« Reply #18404 on: August 06, 2016, 11:45:29 PM »
holy shit  :donot

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« Reply #18405 on: August 07, 2016, 12:08:00 AM »
the only thing I've seen from Johnson that's legit embarrassing is the AUDIT THE FED!! + goldbuggery that's more of a sine qua non for his libertarded constituency than a substantive policy proposal. guy's for cap and trade, right? how bad can he be? :lupe

if Stein were in Bernie's place I don't think Glen would've survived this primary

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lmao, what the fuck is wrong with this guy?

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« Reply #18406 on: August 07, 2016, 12:55:10 AM »
the only thing I've seen from Johnson that's legit embarrassing is the AUDIT THE FED!! + goldbuggery that's more of a sine qua non for his libertarded constituency than a substantive policy proposal. guy's for cap and trade, right? how bad can he be? :lupe

if Stein were in Bernie's place I don't think Glen would've survived this primary

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lmao, what the fuck is wrong with this guy?
He's never had anyone tell him no his entire life. Trump is white het cis male privilege incarnate, and it pains me to bust out the tumblr speak but dude just fucking is. :yuck
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« Reply #18407 on: August 07, 2016, 01:18:38 AM »
Johnson is a libertarian, jakefromstatefarm. That alone infers a variety of problems. I'm going to assume he would not have voted for the Civil Rights Act or the Voting Rights Act, doesn't really support the Civil War, thinks businesses should be able to discriminate against gay people, and a host of other dirtperson views.

Stein believes vaccines cause autism. As Nas said when Nature moved to Marcy: nothing else to say.
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« Reply #18408 on: August 07, 2016, 01:22:20 AM »
Apparently he said at the LP convention he would have voted for the Civil Rights act (and was booed for it)
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/05/gary_johnson_needs_to_leave_the_libertarian_party_behind.html
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« Reply #18409 on: August 07, 2016, 01:40:08 AM »
Johnson is a libertarian, jakefromstatefarm. That alone infers a variety of problems. I'm going to assume he would not have voted for the Civil Rights Act or the Voting Rights Act, doesn't really support the Civil War, thinks businesses should be able to discriminate against gay people, and a host of other dirtperson views.

Stein believes vaccines cause autism. As Nas said when Nature moved to Marcy: nothing else to say.
https://twitter.com/DrJillStein/status/760092116085190656
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« Reply #18410 on: August 07, 2016, 02:01:30 AM »
God dammit.
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« Reply #18411 on: August 07, 2016, 02:20:11 AM »
I don't really have anything against third parties, in fact, should American democracy ever see some much needed structural changes they may in fact become useful and effective parts of our system and government. As of right now, they ain't. My entire lifetime has seen a slew of highly principled egoists that changed the system all for naught, excepting of course if you think Clinton/Bush owes their presidencies to Perot/Nader. There's been no significant third party growth as far as I can tell, at least to the point where they can do anything but prop up people who have no friggin chance of doing what they say they want to do. My first Presidental vote was for Nader, if you had told me 16 years later the Green Party would be no better off then it was now I'd probably go back and pull that lever for Gore (hey, I was in a solid red state, he wasn't winning anyway).

Its enough to make a guy cynical, but I have in fact seen a highly successful and very transformative political movement in my lifetime. The Tea Party has been so very good at effecting change, and within a relatively short window of time also, a very vocal and passionate minority was able to seize the reins of a entrenched party and successfully battle not only their own party but the opposing one as well and has been hugely successful in many ways in passing their agenda.

That their agenda is a nihilist, intellectually disingenuous con-job on their constituents and the country at large doesn't really matter. They've been able to push local, state, and federal governments far to the right with surprising efficacy.

Third parties will never matter in this country until we get some very solid election/campaign reform, guess which party supports that now? If people want to continue wasting their time on their lost cause so they can feel better about themselves, fine, okay, sure buddy, knock yourself out. Your actually working counter to your own interest, real and rapid change can happen, but it won't happen without engaging with the entrenched system that's already in place.

Tasty

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« Reply #18412 on: August 07, 2016, 02:24:10 AM »
I'm perfectly fine with a two-party system, with some caveats.

Basically I like all these videos. :doge








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« Reply #18413 on: August 07, 2016, 02:34:40 AM »
Johnson is a libertarian, jakefromstatefarm. That alone infers a variety of problems. I'm going to assume he would not have voted for the Civil Rights Act or the Voting Rights Act, doesn't really support the Civil War, thinks businesses should be able to discriminate against gay people, and a host of other dirtperson views.
I don't see much use in chastising someone for views they don't (and couldn't possibly) hold. The appeal to dogmatic partisanship* falls especially flat here, given that the staunchest opposition to the civil rights voting act of 1957 and the civil rights act of 1964 was fielded by Dixiecrats. I've found johnson to be a palatable candidate and his campaign seems to represent a positive shift away from the quackery that's become synonymous with the LP. I'm glad that an empirically justified proposal to climate change -cap and trade- is finally being endorsed (albeit half-heartedly) during a time when people are actually paying attention to political discourse. And that's it. I don't prefer him over $hillary, at all, but I acknowledge that he's a step in the right direction.

Steins platform is pants on head crazy. We can agree on that.


*There is plenty of room to write off a party because of the constituency and interests they appeal to. Despite being a bourgeois edomite supercac, I don't in principle think Mitt wouldve been a poor president in a vacuum, but in practice i would never hand the keys to the executive branch over to the madhouse that is the current GOP. This doesn't apply to my thoughts on the LP in 2016 though. I don't actually want johnson in the white house.

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« Reply #18414 on: August 07, 2016, 01:11:43 PM »
God dammit.

Probably supports vaccinations for everyone because autistics are more likely to vote for her. 

benjipwns

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« Reply #18415 on: August 07, 2016, 03:18:36 PM »
Social Media Patterns Show Trump Is Looking at a Landslide Victory
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Current polls show the race for President is much tighter than it really is.  Ann Coulter warned us years ago in her best seller Slander that Democrats and the liberal media always use polls to manipulate and discourage conservatives from voting.  Thanks to social media there is more and more evidence that the polls are way off and if things stay as they are, Trump will win in a landslide!

It’s evident Hillary has a hard time filling a Union Hall while Trump regularly turns people away from his stadium and arena venues.

Now this – Analysis from social media provides additional support that Trump is likely to win in a landslide.

So how bad is it?
Evidence from ‘The Truth Division’ shows that if you look at social media, Trump is killing Hillary!
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Hillary is proving that she is a terrible candidate. No one likes her and no one trusts her. Based on turnouts at campaign events and on social media, if the election were today… Trump would likely win in a Landslide!

SPREAD THIS: Media RIGGING The Polls, Hiding New Evidence Proving Trump Is WINNING
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Facebook

Trump: 10,174,358 Likes
Clinton: 5,385,959 Likes

Trump nearly doubles the amount of Likes than Clinton Now — some people follow Trump who don’t like him, so let’s look at some posts. Here’s the stats for his latest Facebook live stream:

Trump Live Stream Post — 21 hours ago: 135,000 likes, 18,167 shares, 1.5 million views
Clinton Live Stream Post — 25 hours ago: 11,000 likes, 0 shares, 321,000 views

Since Clinton has zero shares, here’s the next best original post I could find from Clinton, albeit it’s not a live stream post:

Clinton post — 30 hours ago: 22,000 Likes, 7241 Shares, 773,000 views

Any way you slice it, Trump is crushing Clinton on Facebook interaction. One quick note regarding Facebook — you’ll find that on almost half of Clinton FB posts, the top comments are from Trump supporters, whereas the the top comments on Trump’s page are hardcore supporters only.

Twitter

Trump: 10.6 million followers
Hillary: 8.1 million followers

Trump has 30% more Twitter followers — and they translate into real votes. A recent study confirmed that 70% of his followers are real supporters, and 90% of those real followers have a voting history.

Hillary’s “twitter army” is likely made up of dead voters and illegals.

Youtube Live Stream

Trump: Averages 30,000 live viewers per stream
Clinton: Averages 500 live viewers per stream

Trump has 5900% more live viewers than Clinton.

Instagram

Trump: 2.2 million followers
Clinton: 1.8 million followers

Trump has 22% more Instagram followers — which is impressive considering it’s a liberal cesspool consisting of college hipsters who can’t seem to take enough selfies.

Reddit

Trump: 197,696 subscribers
Hillary: 24,429 subscribers
Hillary for Prison: 55,228 subscribers

Hillary for Prison’s Reddit feed has more than double subscribers of Hillary’s reddit page, equating to Trump having 700% more Reddit subscribers.

Don’t listen to the lying media — the only legitimate attack they have left is Trump’s poll numbers. Social media proves the GOP nominee has strong foundation and a firm backing.

SHARE on Facebook and Twitter and let us know what you think of this proof showing Trump dominating social media!

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« Reply #18416 on: August 07, 2016, 03:23:54 PM »
:lol

Joe Molotov

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| NO BABIES ALLOWED
« Reply #18417 on: August 07, 2016, 04:19:31 PM »
Retweet this and Bill Gates will pay you $1,000,000.
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Trent Dole

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« Reply #18418 on: August 07, 2016, 04:24:02 PM »
'Do Your Research': Four Drumpf Surrogates Insist On CNN Polls Are 'Skewed' For Hillary
http://crooksandliars.com/2016/08/do-your-research-four-trump-surrogates

Reality is biased! :lol
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Tasty

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« Reply #18419 on: August 07, 2016, 05:22:24 PM »
Wait, why would polls showing your chosen candidate losing be a bad thing for you?

Losing polls energize the voter base. Winning polls make constituents complacent.

Am I missing something here or is it that the conservative media can't see past "GOP nominee is losing"? ???