Cruncheons 44: Soul Sacrifice,Guacamelee,Riptide,Blood Dragon,Gunslinger,XBONE

[Eel O'Brian]

http://cruncheons.podbean.com/mf/web/u6pznb/Cruncheons44.mp3

SEGMENT ONE

Doug sits in the corner as Robert, Arian, and Kevin discuss the newly announced all-seeing all-knowing doubleplusgood Xbox One. He joins back in for some discussion of the Wii U and Ubisoft's apparent $15 downloadable game initiative.

SEGMENT TWO

(1:15: 20) Puzzle and Dragons, revisited
(1:17:45) Soul Sacrifice + Vita talk
(1:23:10) Guacamelee!
(1:29:50) Dead Island: Riptide
(1:33:55) Call of Juarez: Gunslinger
(1:37:00) Far Cry 3: Blood Dragon
(1:45:35) Don't Starve

We'll talk to you again soon!

[Eel O'Brian]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=566133

[Rufus]

Oh yes.

[Steve Contra]

 :xbone

[Phoenix Dark]

I half want to leave work right now and listen to this. Gonna be a classic.

[Shaka Khan]

This is a must listen.

[Eel O'Brian]

Audio from my end is a bit off, sorry about that. I left something plugged into my USB hub and it caused interference with my headset (didn't hear it while I was recording).

Next time we'll record in the clouds.

[Phoenix Dark]

You did record in the clouds, you just don't know it yet *mind blown*

I'm paying all my bills in the cloud now, it has saved me tons of money.

[Tasty]

[Eel O'Brian]

[Himu]

Listening to this.

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[brob]

 

[Phoenix Dark]

[Human Snorenado]

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andy

[Shaka Khan]

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Omfg

JOE PLEEEEEEAAAAAASE

[Himu]

Now we have an avatar for drinky when he comes back!

[cool breeze]

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[Flannel Boy]

Icon Andrex
Leper Drinky
Ban Malek

[Phoenix Dark]

"The last console I probably will ever buy is a WiiU"
 :xbone

we've come full circle

[Phoenix Dark]

Damn Frag, let someone else talk 

this nicca fillibustering the Xbone discussion

[Van Cruncheon]

omg

[TakingBackSunday]

ANDREX

YOU BEAUTIFUL SON OF A BITCH

[Himu]

omg

he's here

[Van Cruncheon]

never went anywhere, just had work x life to attend to!

[brob]

well, that's a shit excuse not to post on forums if I ever saw one.

[pilonv1]

Completely agree with Robert re: Don't Starve, after a certain period of time the challenge in the game disappears and it becomes like a shitty job without a purpose. You know you've got to get your food, make sure you're prepared for winter, know where to go to deal with the puppies, etc... but you're doing it all with no real end game available. It's just more of the same things you've been doing for the past 40 odd days, with no variation. Even the creator has stated that you're not mean to last past 100 days or so. I've found story mode pretty weak as well since the maps it drops you into are more sadistic than challenging (I had one map with no grass, couldn't build a fire).

I haven't tried any of the caves so I can't comment on that addition but it sounds good, and I would still recommend it. Definitely an interesting work in progress though.

[cool breeze]

Random question for the person (can't match voice with names) who said they might buy a PS3 this year.  In a hypothetical situation where the PS4 could play natively PS3 games, with the PS4 launching between $400 to $500 and the PS3 dropping to $200, would you have bought the PS4 over the PS3?

The others talked about backwards compatibility as it applies to owners looking to upgrade.   

[headwalk]

well, that's a shit excuse not to post on forums if I ever saw one.

i find that the busier i am with responsibilities, the more time i spend on forums.

if i'm not here, i'm probably having a good time.

[Human Snorenado]

Random question for the person (can't match voice with names) who said they might buy a PS3 this year.  In a hypothetical situation where the PS4 could play natively PS3 games, with the PS4 launching between $400 to $500 and the PS3 dropping to $200, would you have bought the PS4 over the PS3?

The others talked about backwards compatibility as it applies to owners looking to upgrade.

That was Robert, but I'm also looking to buy a PS3 at some point this year as a streaming/blu-ray box.  For me the answer is no, as I'm just not really interested in a console beyond a "let's play random crap we missed from last gen for cheap" bonus to the blu-ray/streaming.

[hampster]

I figured the $15-20 spinoff game would take off years ago when that Dead Rising game came out on XBLA but it never did yet DLC has continued to grow. I guess DLC is easier and/or brings in bigger returns than you guys guess.

Anyway this was an excellent episode. I was listening to another podcast and they said there was a $99 360 rumor going around. I could see myself getting than well before a new console to grab some of the stuff I missed (assuming that's not $99 with a two year live subscription). The old consoles are still priced pretty high - I wonder if sony and microsoft plan to drop the price and make them the entry product or just phase them out to get people onto the new consoles

[Human Snorenado]

I think we're all pretty much on the "MS/Sony will continue to support current gen consoles for the next year and a halfish" with big stuff like sports, your CODs, GTAV, etc.  At least I am.  I would expect price drops between now and the release of the new consoles.

[Fragamemnon]

Damn Frag, let someone else talk 

this nicca fillibustering the Xbone discussion

Doug sidelined himself so I had to kind of be even more assertive than normal, and I'm already blabbery enough already.

I also, as someone who is at the point in their career where business unit strategy is something I have to help plan and execute, have some strong opinions about the MS conference and really wanted to drive home that while the Xbox is about revenue and that is going to come from games and subs, the product itself has to be poised in such a way to push MS' real corporate competitors, which in no way include Sony and Nintendo.

Older consoles are great for revenue. Both PS3 and 360 have an upsell subscription service with continuity to their new product line and have digital purchases that are also direct revenue with very little overhead.

[Cerveza mas fina]

Holy shit andrex.

10/10

[Phoenix Dark]

Damn Frag, let someone else talk 

this nicca fillibustering the Xbone discussion

Doug sidelined himself so I had to kind of be even more assertive than normal, and I'm already blabbery enough already.

I also, as someone who is at the point in their career where business unit strategy is something I have to help plan and execute, have some strong opinions about the MS conference and really wanted to drive home that while the Xbox is about revenue and that is going to come from games and subs, the product itself has to be poised in such a way to push MS' real corporate competitors, which in no way include Sony and Nintendo.

Older consoles are great for revenue. Both PS3 and 360 have an upsell subscription service with continuity to their new product line and have digital purchases that are also direct revenue with very little overhead.

Good point. Based entirely on the conference, I can't say I'm convinced Microsoft can compete with Apple, Samsung, etc. Or Roku.

[Steve Contra]

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[Brehvolution]

Steve Contra should be a guest on the show sometime.

[Steve Contra]

Steve Contra is horribly awkward on the phone, skype, or any other device that requires him to talk not in person.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

He can also be awkward in person

[close]

[Phoenix Dark]

I would be interested in Words of Wisdom segment from Contra, if he does it while drunk on an alcohol The Bore chooses.

[Human Snorenado]

I would be interested in Words of Wisdom segment from Contra, if he does it while drunk.

Shit, I could do that.  And would be glad to.  Anyone else want to hear from Uncle Triumph on a future episode?  (Robert obviously doesn't, but anything that makes him shake his head sadly is funny in my book)

[Flannel Boy]

Steve Contra is horribly awkward on the phone, skype, or any other device that requires him to talk not in person.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

He can also be awkward in person

[close]

Why did malek change his name to Steve Contra?

[Fragamemnon]

Damn Frag, let someone else talk 

this nicca fillibustering the Xbone discussion

Doug sidelined himself so I had to kind of be even more assertive than normal, and I'm already blabbery enough already.

I also, as someone who is at the point in their career where business unit strategy is something I have to help plan and execute, have some strong opinions about the MS conference and really wanted to drive home that while the Xbox is about revenue and that is going to come from games and subs, the product itself has to be poised in such a way to push MS' real corporate competitors, which in no way include Sony and Nintendo.

Older consoles are great for revenue. Both PS3 and 360 have an upsell subscription service with continuity to their new product line and have digital purchases that are also direct revenue with very little overhead.

Good point. Based entirely on the conference, I can't say I'm convinced Microsoft can compete with Apple, Samsung, etc. Or Roku.

They are in a weird position where on one end they have good business with huge margins catering to corporate information technology, and on the other end they have all of these services and products fighting for every damn nickel and dime in the consumer space (outside of Office and Windows, the cornerstone of the entire company whose interest spans all business units).

I actually think they are much better positioned than either Apple or Samsung for the long term. Neither company has the kind of broad unified services offerings that MS does (Google is the only real competitor there). The problem with MS is finding a consumer product that will electrify consumers to adopt that services platform. Xbone is obviously part of that strategy. Nokia is part of that too, but that hasn't worked out very well. Same for the current releases of Windows RT.

Samsung is going to wake up one day and find out that Huawei or some other Chinese company just destroyed them or they will destroy themselves with trying to tread too far away from Google. Apple has the crushing need to keep innovating a new consumer product regularly to stay relevant and has done nothing to develop a full services platform like MS and Google have despite having literally infinite money.

[Cerveza mas fina]

I wonder how hard it is for drinky not to talk about the xboner

[Himu]

I wonder how hard it is for drinky not to talk about the xboner

pretty easy if he wants to keep his job.

[Oblivion]

Glad you guys are still making these, even though I haven't heard any for a while.

But what is the deal with Robert doing the intro instead of Kevin? Blasphemy!

[D3RANG3D]

Need an ETA on the E3 edition.

[Human Snorenado]

"See Mirror's Edge 2 release date"

spoiler (click to show/hide)

this weekend maybe

[close]

[headwalk]

"See Mirror's Edge 2 release date"

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this weekend maybe

[close]

seems a good time for another episode of indefensible.

[Rufus]

Took you a while to catch that.

Frag, your new avatar on GAF is adorable. Hummingbirds are amazing.

[Brehvolution]

"Maybe this weekend" leaves to much to chance. Please edit it to "Definitely this weekend" to reflect your true intentions.

[Human Snorenado]

...I might have said non-horrible things about Nintendo.  Clearly I'm getting soft in my old age.

[Eel O'Brian]

I will try to get it up tomorrow evening.

[Rufus]

Aw yeah. 

[hampster]

...I might have said non-horrible things about Nintendo.  Clearly I'm getting soft in my old age.

There is a lot of shit you could throw at Nintendo but I'm happy at least one company is trying to make games for family & kids even if most of that market has moved on to iOS and F2P PC games.

[D3RANG3D]

I will try to get it up tomorrow evening.

 

...I might have said non-horrible things about Nintendo.  Clearly I'm getting soft in my old age.