Author Topic: THE FOOTBALL/SOCCER THREAD (Read 198864 times)

Himu · « **Reply #120 on:** July 02, 2014, 04:33:24 PM »

Quote from: Esch on July 02, 2014, 04:22:12 PM

How could you fuck with Real Madrid or Barca, these bastards are loading up their roster like the Heat

Real Madrid is the Yankees of soccer. It's like the team that every soccer player would want to play for. Easily the most prestigious club, in my opinion.

Himu · « **Reply #121 on:** July 02, 2014, 04:34:16 PM »

Quote from: Karakand on July 02, 2014, 04:30:48 PM

Quote from: Esch on July 02, 2014, 04:22:12 PM
How could you fuck with Real Madrid or Barca, these bastards are loading up their roster like the Heat

If you're a fan of another team in La Liga you just accept that you won't win the league unless your team does some 2008 financial crisis shit on the books and implodes financially down the road or hope for a Copa del Rey final or Champions League appearance.

Watching Athletic in the Champions League this coming season is going to rule.

I was really hoping for that double, but I'm good with them winning league.

Momo · « **Reply #122 on:** July 02, 2014, 04:40:45 PM »

Quote from: Esch on July 02, 2014, 04:22:12 PM

How could you fuck with Real Madrid or Barca, these bastards are loading up their roster like the Heat

Luckily, especially in the case of Real, they often have personality clashes and refuse to play as a team properly and implode. I much prefer Barca, they at least tend to get players that work with their play style (the best play style in the world imo) while Real sign people like Beckham, Bale and the like not because they fit, but because they sell shirts and stuff. (not to take anything away from their talent). Real is a clown's football team. Best to avoid.

I hate Barca for beating us in the champs league final, but if it had to be anyone, I'm okay with it being them.

Momo · « **Reply #123 on:** July 02, 2014, 04:43:02 PM »

the last Real team i liked had Guti, Hierro, Zidane, Figo, Raul. There was an actual team there + crazy amounts of skill in the midfield

Himu · « **Reply #124 on:** July 02, 2014, 04:44:35 PM »

Quote from: Momo on July 02, 2014, 04:40:45 PM

I much prefer Barca, they at least tend to get players that work with their play style (the best play style in the world imo)

Completely fucking agreed.

1:01

Momo · « **Reply #125 on:** July 02, 2014, 04:48:45 PM »

Yup thats Barca, they will kill you with passing. The same reason I love Arsenal. (Of course I've been an Arsenal fan from 1 -0 to the Arsenal days though

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Himu · « **Reply #126 on:** July 02, 2014, 04:53:02 PM »

I'm split on tiki taka. I think it really depends on the match, club, and even players.

Momo · « **Reply #127 on:** July 02, 2014, 04:59:26 PM »

It depends on the long term vision. tika taka takes a lot from total football, and so does the style Arsenal plays, from viewing its immediately evident they both share common ancestry but is also very different in execution and function. It's not something any club can pull off though, from memory only Ajax, Arsenal and Barcelona has ever so beautifully played a total derivative (and thats due to long term coaching, no one doing this without at least a decade with a team)

Himu · « **Reply #128 on:** July 02, 2014, 05:01:16 PM »

Quote from: Momo on July 02, 2014, 04:59:26 PM

It depends on the long term vision. tika taka takes a lot from total football, and so does the style Arsenal plays, from viewing its immediately evident they both share common ancestry but is also very different in execution and function. It's not something any club can pull off though, from memory only Ajax, Arsenal and Barcelona has ever so beautifully played a total derivative (and thats due to long term coaching, no one doing this without at least a decade with a team)

That's why I'm split on it. Spain WC 2010 for example used it and it was far from beautiful.

Momo · « **Reply #129 on:** July 02, 2014, 05:05:25 PM »

Spain's still my favorite national team, I know they can play that style well, something really fucked up has been going on with them for about two years though. I blame the racist idiot coach

Momo · « **Reply #130 on:** July 02, 2014, 05:13:10 PM »

p.s. I really love that you guys all feel like football bros to me now

Kara · « **Reply #131 on:** July 02, 2014, 05:19:52 PM »

Quote from: Momo on July 02, 2014, 04:43:02 PM

the last Real team i liked had Guti, Hierro, Zidane, Figo, Raul. There was an actual team there + crazy amounts of skill in the midfield

imo it's hard to hate a team Zizou was on.

jakefromstatefarm · « **Reply #132 on:** July 02, 2014, 05:20:40 PM »

Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on July 02, 2014, 04:44:35 PM

Quote from: Momo on July 02, 2014, 04:40:45 PM
I much prefer Barca, they at least tend to get players that work with their play style (the best play style in the world imo)

Completely fucking agreed.

1:01

This is absolutely beautiful. Reminds me of the Spurs' offense with a lot of quick ball movement and give and go action. As a total soccer pleb, can anyone direct me to where I can read up about play styles/player archetypes and the general landscape of the game today?

Kara · « **Reply #133 on:** July 02, 2014, 05:46:33 PM »

Quote from: jakefromstatefarm on July 02, 2014, 05:20:40 PM

As a total soccer pleb, can anyone direct me to where I can read up about play styles/player archetypes and the general landscape of the game today?

With the caveat that I haven't read them ever since they had the gall to call Greece 2004 their #1 team of the 2000s, Zonal Marking might be just the site you're looking for.

http://www.zonalmarking.net/

Momo · « **Reply #134 on:** July 03, 2014, 01:09:43 AM »

Quote from: Esch on July 02, 2014, 05:21:42 PM

tiki-taka seems like Bernard Hopkins or Mayweather, can be really awesome and technical but depending on the opponent/user it seems like it can be reaaally negative and boring. It's like a super glorified game of keep away

Quote from: Momo on July 02, 2014, 05:05:25 PM
Spain's still my favorite national team, I know they can play that style well, something really fucked up has been going on with them for about two years though. I blame the racist idiot coach
I mean, aren't they kind of all old? It seems like Xavi was the key to that plan and now he's a bit

You don't necessarily have to drop too much with age playing that style of football. It's not like in England or Africa where the tempo is so high that you look like a fossil by 32. Continentals get to play till they are older specifically cause their styles arent England dumb.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #135 on:** July 03, 2014, 05:38:50 AM »

Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on July 02, 2014, 04:33:24 PM

Quote from: Esch on July 02, 2014, 04:22:12 PM
How could you fuck with Real Madrid or Barca, these bastards are loading up their roster like the Heat

Real Madrid is the Yankees of soccer. It's like the team that every soccer player would want to play for. Easily the most prestigious club, in my opinion.

no

Momo · « **Reply #136 on:** July 03, 2014, 10:40:08 AM »

Quote from: Exodust SoulBurn on July 03, 2014, 05:29:23 AM

Quote from: Momo on July 02, 2014, 04:43:02 PM
the last Real team i liked had Guti, Hierro, Zidane, Figo, Raul. There was an actual team there + crazy amounts of skill in the midfield

And motherfucking Ronaldo!

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Mr Calcio

Momo · « **Reply #137 on:** July 03, 2014, 11:12:07 AM »

Fat Ronaldo had entertainment value too

Momo · « **Reply #138 on:** July 03, 2014, 12:59:46 PM »

We're all extremely fortunate to be able to watch a player like Messi in his prime

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #139 on:** July 03, 2014, 06:10:37 PM »

Quote from: Exodust SoulBurn on July 03, 2014, 06:10:41 AM

Quote from: Premium Lager on July 03, 2014, 05:38:50 AM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on July 02, 2014, 04:33:24 PM
Quote from: Esch on July 02, 2014, 04:22:12 PM
How could you fuck with Real Madrid or Barca, these bastards are loading up their roster like the Heat

Real Madrid is the Yankees of soccer. It's like the team that every soccer player would want to play for. Easily the most prestigious club, in my opinion.

no

She's not wrong, though. Who would you say is the Yankees of soccer then?

Yankees of soccer is a pretty silly term anyway

Himu · « **Reply #140 on:** July 03, 2014, 06:58:24 PM »

Lager: is there a more prestigious soccer club than Real?

Himu · « **Reply #141 on:** July 03, 2014, 07:04:32 PM »

I'm curious why he disagrees. Who does he put above Real?

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #142 on:** July 04, 2014, 01:26:32 AM »

Well for one Barca has won as many Euro 1 trophies in the past 25 years.

Also Real is a hale billion pounds in debt so fuck them and their recent victories. Fake ass football rigging assholes

Should banned from CL play until they are in the green.

All of their success is based bending the rules

Mandark · « **Reply #143 on:** July 04, 2014, 01:30:07 AM »

So you're saying they recklessly spend money to acquire top stars and try to buy championships, haven't really lived up to their reputation in recent years, and that they're widely hated by people who aren't fans...

and they're not the Yankees?

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #144 on:** July 04, 2014, 01:51:09 AM »

Yankees never had a fascist dictator as a sugar daddy though who made sure real was on top

Kara · « **Reply #145 on:** July 04, 2014, 02:23:12 AM »

Quote from: Premium Lager on July 04, 2014, 01:51:09 AM

Yankees never had a fascist dictator as a sugar daddy though who made sure real was on top

cold blooded

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #146 on:** July 04, 2014, 02:39:13 AM »

Quote from: Premium Lager on July 04, 2014, 01:51:09 AM

Yankees never had a fascist dictator as a sugar daddy though who made sure real was on top

george steinbrenner was pretty close, though

Fifstar · « **Reply #147 on:** July 04, 2014, 04:14:48 AM »

Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on July 03, 2014, 07:04:32 PM

I'm curious why he disagrees. Who does he put above Real?

There is no club above Real, but I'd say Barcelona is almost as prestigious, because they were so successful and especially because of their style and dominance they had over the last couple of years. It's also different situation as the youth from the european countries adores the clubs from their countries the most. So Bayern München is like the Real Madrid of Germany. Although I guess from a pro player point of view it's still has some truth, as even players from München, Milan or Manchester probably get second thoughts if they get a call from Real or Barca.

Himu · « **Reply #148 on:** July 04, 2014, 12:08:02 PM »

Quote from: The Business on July 04, 2014, 12:06:32 PM

Kaká is playing for Orlando City SC:

http://touch.orlandosentinel.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-80689823/

Impressive.

Momo · « **Reply #149 on:** July 04, 2014, 12:13:04 PM »

Yeah I read about Kaka, congrats 'merica he's a pretty good player

Momo · « **Reply #150 on:** July 05, 2014, 05:44:07 AM »

Iker Cassilas isnt a goalkeeper with legs I dont think. Don't think he will be able to make it to 40 like other keepers.

Kara · « **Reply #151 on:** July 06, 2014, 02:15:58 PM »

Florida has already lost a team because it's a shit sports market and they're going to get 2 high price DPs in their first season?

GJ MLS. Smart, strategic thinking with this expansion. Could we get an Atlanta team next?

Himu · « **Reply #152 on:** July 06, 2014, 04:38:29 PM »

Quote from: Karakand on July 06, 2014, 02:15:58 PM

Florida has already lost a team because it's a shit sports market and they're going to get 2 high price DPs in their first season?

GJ MLS. Smart, strategic thinking with this expansion. Could we get an Atlanta team next?

No. The Orlando expansion makes sense. Orlando has an avid soccer market, the Majic suck, and that's all there is to do in Orlando because Orlando is shit. Miami is the city that didn't deserve expansion.

headwalk · « **Reply #153 on:** July 06, 2014, 07:57:50 PM »

it's a drag that the one MLS player who made a name for himself playing for USA this year is already being packaged up for a trip to rome.

Himu · « **Reply #154 on:** July 06, 2014, 08:00:24 PM »

Quote from: headwalk on July 06, 2014, 07:57:50 PM

it's a drag that the one MLS player who made a name for himself playing for USA this year is already being packaged up for a trip to rome.

?

headwalk · « **Reply #155 on:** July 06, 2014, 08:27:58 PM »

Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on July 06, 2014, 08:00:24 PM

Quote from: headwalk on July 06, 2014, 07:57:50 PM
it's a drag that the one MLS player who made a name for himself playing for USA this year is already being packaged up for a trip to rome.

?

yedlin.

pool were interested (there's nobody they aren't interested in with suarez money coming in), but it looks like he's heading to serie a.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #156 on:** July 06, 2014, 09:57:37 PM »

Good for Deandre but fuck that shit.

Kara · « **Reply #157 on:** July 07, 2014, 01:07:51 AM »

Quote from: Esch on July 07, 2014, 12:47:54 AM

These are super fucking awesome and I may have to purchase one:

http://shop.rincks.co.uk/

If I decorated any space I spent appreciable time in, I would buy the Dean Windass one in a heartbeat just to laugh at seeing the word Windass every day.

Momo · « **Reply #158 on:** July 07, 2014, 03:27:32 AM »

You're going to love David Seaman then

Himu · « **Reply #159 on:** July 07, 2014, 10:26:36 AM »

Sky now covers mls

Momo · « **Reply #160 on:** July 07, 2014, 11:15:56 AM »

Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on July 07, 2014, 10:26:36 AM

Sky now covers mls

Sky football coverage is really neat. If you have Sky streaming or some other source, use it

Himu · « **Reply #161 on:** July 07, 2014, 11:18:31 AM »

Told you Orlando fucks with soccer

Momo · « **Reply #162 on:** July 07, 2014, 02:50:45 PM »

oh man, RIP one of the greatest of all time.

PS he played more for Spain than Argentina (and Colombia)

Himu · « **Reply #163 on:** July 07, 2014, 03:06:18 PM »

Nice goals and footwork in that vid. Favorite one is where he makes a penalty, goes in, so he goes in for a second kick for no reason.

Momo · « **Reply #164 on:** July 07, 2014, 03:17:02 PM »

Quote from: Exodust SoulBurn on July 07, 2014, 03:01:00 PM

Damn, R.I.P.

He was one of the biggest legends in the history of the sport.

Pele and a lot of other people thought he was the best player ever.

Kara · « **Reply #165 on:** July 07, 2014, 03:20:19 PM »

Yeah but could he play away at Stoke on a rainy night?

Himu · « **Reply #166 on:** July 11, 2014, 12:50:15 AM »

Barca and real making moves :lupe

Himu · « **Reply #167 on:** July 11, 2014, 12:52:29 PM »

wrong thread

Himu · « **Reply #168 on:** July 11, 2014, 01:02:34 PM »

omg why did he choose to go to la liga? the suarez epl fuckery will be missed

and seriously that is the most dapper shirt.

Himu · « **Reply #169 on:** July 11, 2014, 01:06:48 PM »

atletico and the rest of la liga

Kara · « **Reply #170 on:** July 11, 2014, 02:10:51 PM »

Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on July 11, 2014, 01:06:48 PM

atletico and the rest of la liga

Who cares about winning the league when I get to look forward to Athletic being sucked off by English football commentators in the Champions League for playing football "the right way"?

headwalk · « **Reply #171 on:** July 11, 2014, 07:03:04 PM »

Quote from: Esch on July 11, 2014, 01:06:25 PM

Brehs

Messi, Neymar, Suarez up front

sounds like a mess. a good squad is about balance, not putting a cheat code into football manager, arranging by value and going down the list.

Kara · « **Reply #172 on:** July 11, 2014, 10:28:54 PM »

Quote from: The Business on July 11, 2014, 05:38:25 PM

Edit: Pretty big fan of Crusader kits too:

Our resident vet of foreign wars in the Muslim world is a fan of Crusader kits?

You don't say.

Himu · « **Reply #173 on:** July 12, 2014, 11:52:06 AM »

Everyone try to watch the Portland v Seattle match tomorrow! It's going to be on ESPN2! This is probably the biggest rivalry in MLS, GOGOGOGO

Kara · « **Reply #174 on:** July 12, 2014, 12:31:52 PM »

They'd been saddled with a lot of debt due to self-funding Emirates.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #175 on:** July 13, 2014, 12:20:47 AM »

Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on July 12, 2014, 11:52:06 AM

Everyone try to watch the Portland v Seattle match tomorrow! It's going to be on ESPN2! This is probably the biggest rivalry in MLS, GOGOGOGO

I'll be at the game.

Himu · « **Reply #176 on:** July 13, 2014, 12:22:35 AM »

Quote from: Mr. Gundam on July 13, 2014, 12:20:47 AM

Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on July 12, 2014, 11:52:06 AM
Everyone try to watch the Portland v Seattle match tomorrow! It's going to be on ESPN2! This is probably the biggest rivalry in MLS, GOGOGOGO

I'll be at the game.

take pics

Himu · « **Reply #177 on:** July 13, 2014, 12:22:59 AM »

Quote from: The Business on July 12, 2014, 11:49:10 PM

Went and saw my local USL Pro team play. Was worried I wouldn't be entertained after a month of world class soccer, but I was pleasantly surprised. Neither team looked too bad out there. They were probably on the level of at least the Brazil national team.

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you take pics next time too!

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #178 on:** July 13, 2014, 11:21:43 AM »

We've been in the 90s all week. Gonna rain tonight, starting at game time.

Momo · « **Reply #179 on:** July 13, 2014, 02:26:11 PM »

Quote from: Esch on July 12, 2014, 12:28:57 PM

Watching a replay of Jose vs. DC United now and Wondolowski just scored one from outside the box

Made me so salty :'(

Khedira probably going to Arsenal or Chelsea. Wenger seems to be willing to spend a lot of money this year. I thought they were a fiscally conservative club?

Quote from: Karakand on July 12, 2014, 12:31:52 PM

They'd been saddled with a lot of debt due to self-funding Emirates.

This, we've been playing the long game for a while now. I'm okay with this. Rather setup the team to be financially successful for the long run than glory hunt in the short. That and Arsene gave me the invincibles, thats enough to keep me for another decade lol

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