It has been 4... 0 days since the last mass shooting official shooting thread

[Human Snorenado]

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/san-bernardino-shooting-multiple-victims

Let's wait for all the facts

thoughts and prayers

they're with god now

nothing can be done

Ok, good talk. See everyone next mass shooting thread.

[Boogie]

Mass Shootings in America:  It's a Feature, not a Bug.

[Joe Molotov]

If only a good guy open-carrying an A-10 Warthog had been there.

Also you forgot "possibly multiple gunmen" for Mass Shooting Bingo.

[CatsCatsCats]

Hitler had gun control, you guys, Hitler.

[tiesto]

Why in gods name would anyone attack a center for those with developmental disabilities? Hits even more close to home considering how many clients I deal with and people I know at agencies much like this one.

[brob]

Why in gods name would anyone attack a center for those with developmental disabilities?

considering how common mass shootings are you gotta get creative to stand out

[TakingBackSunday]

Strict gun laws, now.

[Mr. Gundam]

Why in gods name would anyone attack a center for those with developmental disabilities? Hits even more close to home considering how many clients I deal with and people I know at agencies much like this one.

It doesn't make it better, but the shooters targeted a county agency's holiday party who was renting out the space.

[chronovore]

At this point, Obummer SHOULD be coming fer yer guns, shitbirds.

[TakingBackSunday]

Oh how I would love if Obama instituted an executive action to halt commercial gun sales for the time being.

The salt.  The tremendous salt.

[Madrun Badrun]

That would never hold and totally fuck dems in the election. 

[Am_I_Anonymous]

That would never hold and totally fuck dems in the election.

This.

[benjipwns]

Alan Colmes ✔ @AlanColmes
Planned Parenthood Clinic Across Street From San Bernardino Shooting http://colm.es/1Tw8tpd  #p2

Sam Stein ✔ @samsteinhp
Planned Parenthood is about 1.3 miles from site of shooting. CNN, however, is reporting that the shooting didn’t take place there

[ToxicAdam]

At least this will distract us from the latest toddler that finds a gun and accidently kills his sibling/self/parent.

Across the state (Tennessee) there have been more than 20 accidental shootings (of children), eight of those resulted in the death of a child.

Just one state in our great land.





 

[Human Snorenado]

At least this will distract us from the latest toddler that finds a gun and accidently kills his sibling/self/parent.

Across the state (Tennessee) there have been more than 20 accidental shootings (of children), eight of those resulted in the death of a child.

Just one state in our great land.

Responsible gun owners don't need to be told how to secure their weapons! 

[benjipwns]

Prayer Shaming After a Mass Shooting in San Bernardino
Following the murder of at least 14 people in California, the reaction against calls for prayer has been sharp.
 

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

I saw the name of one of the suspects of the shooting: Syed Farook

This could get pretty ugly.

[seagrams hotsauce]

Prayer Shaming After a Mass Shooting in San Bernardino
Following the murder of at least 14 people in California, the reaction against calls for prayer has been sharp.
 

https://twitter.com/NYDailyNews/status/672234341800521728

[Phoenix Dark]

Yup this has turned in a way liberals on my timeline didn't expect. I'm out.

thankfully republicans are gonna fuck this up because a competent candidate could ride this shit to the WH.

[drew]

Strict gun laws, now.

big dicks in ya ass, asap.

[benjipwns]

They shot some people, who may or may not be involved:

Hours after the mass shooting, a man and woman armed with assault rifles and handguns were involved in a pursuit that led to an exchange of gunfire with officers, police said. The two suspects, who were wearing “assault-style clothing,” were dead, San Bernardino Police Department Chief Jarrod Burguan said Wednesday evening.

A call of multiple shots fired first came in at 10:59 a.m. from the area of 1365 S. Waterman Ave. The Police Department’s SWAT team was training nearby and was suited, “ready to roll” and responded rapidly, Lt. Richard Lawhead said.

Up to three suspects were believed to have fled the scene, possibly in a dark-colored SUV, Burguan initially said.

Several hours later, authorities were investigating tips that led them to a home in Redlands. A vehicle that was seen leaving was suspected of being involved, and police chased the vehicle to San Bernardino, about 2 miles from the initial shooting scene. In the 1700 block of San Bernardino Avenue, the vehicle stopped and officers fired upon it, Burguan said.

The two people who were in the vehicle — the man and the woman — were dead, Burguan said. One officer was injured in the shootout, but his wounds were not life threatening, the chief said.

One of the deceased suspects was identified as Syed Farook, an American citizen, the Los Angeles Times reported, citing two law enforcement sources.

A Syed R. Farook was employed by the San Bernardino County as an environmental health specialist, public records showed, according to the Times.

http://ktla.com/2015/12/02/authorities-respond-to-20-victim-shooting-incident-in-san-bernardino-fire-dept/

[benjipwns]

welp

Syed R. Farook has been identified by multiple news outlets as one of the suspects in the San Bernardino mass shooting that ended in the death of one male and one female suspect in a gunfight with police.

A source told NBC News that Mr. Farook’s brother also is believed to be a suspect.

...

According to the New York Daily News, Mr. Farook’s father, whom the paper did not name, confirmed in an interview that his son inspected restaurants and hotels for health violations, and was married with a child.

He also identified his son as “very religious. He would go to work, come back, go to pray, come back. He’s Muslim.”

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/dec/2/syed-farook-identified-san-bernardino-shooting-sus/

[TakingBackSunday]

Ugh.  This will give the GOP so much shitty ammo.

[drew]

get yer carry permits boys, and remember - a .380 stuffed in your pocket is better than nothing at all

[Mods Help]

Please don't let it be a black Muslim. I feel sorry for the Muslims and Arabs I know already. This is gonna add more wood to that fire unfortunately.

14 people dead. Christ.

[ToxicAdam]

https://www.linkedin.com/in/raheel-farook-b2815867

This guy apparently?

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Is this some kind of Islamic ritual thing?

[Samson Manhug]

It's really confusing because even news outlets are using the one "R" spelling on Twitter.

[VomKriege]

Obviously derived from Bernard too, of course there's a second R  .

The reports on this are very confusing as well, or the story itself is ?
Unfortunately, there's no doubt on the casualties 

[benjipwns]

A few reports make it sound like a workplace dispute gone batshit crazy. Could have a pretty interesting and weird story behind it once everyone moves on like the Boston bombers did.

[benjipwns]

Just weird so far:

Syed Rizwan Farook joined dozens of his colleagues from San Bernardino County's public health department. Farook, an inspector, seemed quiet during the early hours of the event, then vanished just as a group photo was about to be taken.

Shortly afterward, gunfire erupted at the Inland Regional Center where the employees filled a conference room. By the end of the day, police had identified Farook, 28, as a suspect in the massacre and said he was one of two people shot to death in a gun battle with officers. The other was 27-year-old Tashfeen Malik, who a family member said was Farook's wife.

Police officials said Farook had worked for the county for five years. San Bernardino Police Chief Jarrod Burguan said that there were reports of a dispute before Farook left the party.

...

They said Farook recently traveled to Saudi Arabia and returned with a new wife he had met online. The couple had a baby and appeared to be "living the American dream," said Patrick Baccari, a fellow health inspector who shared a cubicle with Farook.

Baccari and Christian Nwadike said Farook, who worked with them for several years, rarely started a conversation. But the tall, thin young man with a full beard was well liked and spent much of his time out in the field.

...

Reisinger said she heard that the office recently threw a baby shower for Farook and that he had taken paternity leave.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-syed-farook-had-traveled-to-saudi-arabia-married-appeared-to-live-american-dream-co-workers-say-20151202-story.html

[VomKriege]

Smart move would be to wait a couple days to let the police figure what's what. I somehow doubts the politicos will wait that long.



 

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

> Media
> Smart

[Great Rumbler]

I'm fine with ordinary people sending thoughts and prayers. But when it's GOP politicians sending out the same canned response over and over, while doing absolutely nothing to actually tackle the problem of  gun violence [of even allowing the CDC to study the effects of gun violence], that's what I have a problem with.

[Brehvolution]

I can't find the tweet, but it basically said this:

Thoughts and prayers for the victims. Policies and actions for the murderers.

[Atramental]

[drew]

get out of here, stalker.

[octopushover]

someone should propose outfitting every employee at every business with a flak jacket and helmet by contract.

when you picture everyone in defensive gear all the time, suddenly outfitting more people with guns to solve the gun problem seems a little crazy.

[drew]

No, it doesn't.  I don't see the correlation.  The only way to stop these people is by actually physically shutting their CNS down with supersonic pieces of metal.

Also flak jackets?! wtf is this, the Vietnam era? lol

[Steve Contra]

Never stop being the hero in your head rather than the loser you are drew.

[Boogie]

The only way to stop these people is by actually physically shutting their CNS down with supersonic pieces of metal.

Good plan.  And......how do we do this preemptively, exactly?

[drew]

shoot them when they walk in the door like they did in Texas.

[Madrun Badrun]

that's so dumb 

[drew]

Never stop being the hero in your head rather than the loser you are drew.

You don't know me , sir.  I win all the time, just won a pickup game @ the YMCA this past weekend, even.

its not about being a hero its about not being a cuckhold.  If you still refuse to even accept the idea of carrying a weapon at this point in time that's what you are (or much worse yet, other people doing so, in which case you should probably be gassed)

[brawndolicious]

Okay Drew, let's say you're a disgruntled employee and you want to shoot up a workplace holiday party and I'm a legally armed coworker there. How should I know to use deadly force to stop you prior to any innocents dying?

[Boogie]

shoot them when they walk in the door like they did in Texas.

Ah, yes, the old "The United States has more total firearms and firearms per capita than any other nation on earth, and also has more gun deaths per capita than any other developed country, but somehow the solution to lowering the number of gun deaths in the country is more guns" argument.

[drew]

gotta break a few eggs to make an omelette, I guess...

the eggs being the dead or soon to be dead innocents and the omelette being the dead bad guy on the floor.

Like I've alluded to before, its not unheard of, they got lucky in Texas.  I'm sure there would be more examples if I cared to look (I don't)

What are you guys implying exactly?  Even if we suddenly infringed the shit out of the Second Amendment it wouldn't change anything.

[drew]

Ah, yes, the old "The United States has more total firearms and firearms per capita than any other nation on earth, and also has more gun deaths per capita than any other developed country, but somehow the solution to lowering the number of gun deaths in the country is more guns" argument.

the only logical conclusion if you actually break down the statistics would be to somehow remove black people from the equation.  But this is 2015 not 1941

[Boogie]

Like I've alluded to before, its not unheard of, they got lucky in Texas.

So, your policy prescription for reducing gun violence is to admit that, even in your ideal scenario, success means "getting lucky" every once in a while.   

Even if we suddenly infringed the shit out of the Second Amendment it wouldn't change anything.

You're right.  Firearms literally don't exist in other countries, so there are no possible points of comparison.  There is no possible solution to high homicide rates, at least while maintaining America's special snowflake status as the only country on earth with Freedom (TM).  It's a Feature, not a Bug.

[Madrun Badrun]

Not suddenly but yes of course it would change things 20-50 years down the line.


I never understand the idea of having guns to protect you from the government anyways.  Your modified m16s will not help against black hawks or tanks, if the government wanted to kill you.  Its basically that American's like guns and think that these deaths are an ok ticket price to the entertainment they provide. 

[drew]

So, your policy prescription for reducing gun violence is to admit that, even in your ideal scenario, success means "getting lucky" every once in a while.   

OK, fine, I take that back.  The guys who put them down didn't really get lucky, all the people in the building behind them did because the right men were by the front door.

[CatsCatsCats]

Defriended someone for posting a Spider-Man meme that something along the lines of "they already banned assault weapons and high capacity magazines in California, how'd that work out?"

She works as a bikini barista.

[Madrun Badrun]

bikini barista?  I would not have defriended. 

[CatsCatsCats]

Total butterface

[Human Snorenado]

It's good to know that Drew didn't get any smarter in his time away

[Madrun Badrun]

Total butterface

O, defriend away, 

[drew]

It's good to know that Drew didn't get any smarter in his time away

dude don't you have a handgun?  Like an HK or some other equally douchey equivalent? (i.e. sig)

[Boogie]

It's good to know that Drew didn't get any smarter in his time away

dude don't you have a handgun?  Like an HK or some other equally douchey equivalent? (i.e. sig)

ITT, drew finally learns that gun ownership, and desiring stronger gun control laws and regulation, are not mutually exclusive!

spoiler (click to show/hide)

just kidding, we know he won't.

[close]

[ToxicAdam]

Guns, God and the slippery slope fallacy. The three main tenants of all gun lovin Americans.

[Stoney Mason]

The gun owners in this country essentially became so paranoid and nuts years ago that this is the current state of things and the debate. You can't logic them out of it with any sort of discussion. They need their assault rifles and automatics and probably rocket launchers because of the "goverment" and or the dark hordes that would descend on them without them. It's perfect fit for a lot of the irrational thinking that is essentially dominant in this country.