Maybe the real NeoGAF was the friends we made along the way...

[benjipwns]

have you ever actually tried reading or listening to any criticism of anita? I'm not saying you have to "hate" ger but honestly I don't think she's very good at her job.There's plenty out there that is valid, especially on youtube. And no, it's not just from angry white male sexist racist gamergaters, which I think is something that is often tossed around by her defenders. I remember in 2011 before she became really well known I thought she put out some poorly thought out videos, and I saw some feminists criticizing her back then.

Here's a couple of feminists in recent years that aren't big fans of hers either. (just to dispute the idea that only angry white males don't thin k too highly of her work)

Obviously stockholm syndrome, they're probably agents under the boot of The Hate Machine.

[agrajag]

the Hate Machine is clearly in league with Disney

[Raist]

Why do people hate anita so much?

have you ever actually tried reading or listening to any criticism of anita? I'm not saying you have to "hate" her but honestly I don't think she's very good at her job.There's plenty of criticism out there that is valid, especially on youtube. And no, it's not just from angry white male sexist racist gamergaters, which I think is something that is often tossed around by her defenders. I remember in 2011 before she became really well known I thought she put out some poorly thought out videos, and I saw some feminists criticizing her back then.

Here's a couple of feminists in recent years that aren't big fans of hers either. (just to dispute the idea that only angry white males don't thin k too highly of her work)

Nice try with the obvious red-pilled, misogyny-internalizing sock puppet videos.

[Momo]

double agents of thebore.com on ricottaEra please stay safe, go into deep hiding from this point forward and build your network of useful idiots and spies so we can topple ricottaEra.com LLC soon. you have your marching orders friends.

[benjipwns]

double agents of thebore.com on ricottaEra please stay safe, go into deep hiding from this point forward and build your network of useful idiots and spies so we can topple ricottaEra.com LLC soon. you have your marching orders friends.

oh look at 11th in command (behind both gamergate founder Etiolate and Dennis) giving orders

[Raist]

agrajag pls

sry, but I outrank you according to Besada

Number of messages in that image about agrajag: 1
Number of messages in that image about Raist: 3

I think we all know who's enemy numbah one here

[agrajag]

double agents of thebore.com on ricottaEra please stay safe, go into deep hiding from this point forward and build your network of useful idiots and spies so we can topple ricottaEra.com LLC soon. you have your marching orders friends.

oh look at 11th in command (behind both Etiolate and Dennis) giving orders

 

[agrajag]

agrajag pls

sry, but I outrank you according to Besada

Number of messages in that image about agrajag: 1
Number of messages in that image about Raist: 3

I think we all know who's enemy numbah one here

"He's not the driving force"

Basically he described you as the Flynn of the Galactic Empire*. A hapless chap that got mixed up with the bad crowd (like Benipwns, Demi and Dennis).

*trademark of Lucasfilm Ltd. LLC and NOT The Walt Disney Company

[Momo]

double agents of thebore.com on ricottaEra please stay safe, go into deep hiding from this point forward and build your network of useful idiots and spies so we can topple ricottaEra.com LLC soon. you have your marching orders friends.

oh look at 11th in command (behind both Etiolate and Dennis) giving orders

 

HOW DID IT COME TO THIS 

[agrajag]

narcosynthesis

[Raist]

I'm just in the shadows, pulling all the strings while others take the main blame. You need to step up your villain game breh.

i.e I'm Palpatine, you're the trade federation schmuck.

[Makai]

https://www.resetera.com/posts/306900/

FWIW, if I were to donate I would not expect any kind of preferential treatment or reward. Another forum I visit has a similar thing every so often.

Having this community is its own reward.

 

[Bore Expert]

Some of you haven’t seen the Beseda PMs? They were posted all over the place.

[agrajag]

If GAF was the only place someone frequented at the time of the PM debacle, I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't know about it. How many people didn't know that Amir0x used to be a mod or about Evilore's European sex(less)capades?

[Bore Expert]

If GAF was the only place someone frequented at the time of the PM debacle, I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't know about it. How many people didn't know that Amir0x used to be a mod or about Evilore's European sex(less)capades?

I actually saw the PMs for the first time on Gaf in some account suicide I think. But it was obvious way before I saw those screenshots how fucked the moderation team was.

[agrajag]

I'm just in the shadows, pulling all the strings while others take the main blame. You need to step up your villain game breh.

i.e I'm Palpatine, you're the trade federation schmuck.

Bruh please you're Admiral Piet at best, I am Moth Tarkin, Demi is Palpatine and Benji is Vader.

[agrajag]

thats how i knew the "alt-right" was going to win. The left has no gameplan, dirtbag left used their memes (sam hyde was in AS for a year, but that was the year Eric Andre pushed himself to be better than he was because of Hyde) helldump was getting into good graces with some elements of Obama's admin and some lobbies in the left wing, but that was all found out by Veritas and Okeffe, and then the DNC fucked themselves 3 times over by the first lie (that Podesta was hacked), the screwing over of Sanders, and many of the feminists not canvassing the states the Clinton campaign needed to win the election. (and trust me, I saw it with my own eyes. these fat beckys from Temple and LaSalle were pearl clutching in the hood thinking some dude was going to come out of that house with a towel on and hurt them? Half of them inside those houses were females baby sitting other peoples KIDS!

No one seriously disputes that Podesta was hacked. Absolutely nothing was done to Sanders.

However, there should have been more canvassing. And lawn signs.

Here we go, everyone is having a good time laughing about Besada calling us a Hate Machine and you have to shit the thread up with stupid politic shit.

[I'm a Puppy!]

I'm so hurt by this "hate machine" rhetoric. All we ever did was love everyone exactly how much they deserved.


Except for Dennis. He's as bad as they say.

[H.I.V.E.]

Also in reply to Novid who admit he is just trolling 

Good novid keep the fish nibble 

[K]

If GAF was the only place someone frequented at the time of the PM debacle, I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't know about it. How many people didn't know that Amir0x used to be a mod or about Evilore's European sex(less)capades?

Who can blame them. Being on GAF was like being in North Korea. 

[Bore Expert]

I'm so hurt by this "hate machine" rhetoric. All we ever did was love everyone exactly how much they deserved.


Except for Dennis. He's as bad as they say.

I have a confession to make.

There were a couple occasions where I got the impression that the neogaf moderation team was a little corrupt. I don’t want to make any of you literally shake, but i think it happened once or twice.

 

[Optimus]

have you ever actually tried reading or listening to any criticism of anita? I'm not saying you have to "hate" ger but honestly I don't think she's very good at her job.There's plenty out there that is valid, especially on youtube. And no, it's not just from angry white male sexist racist gamergaters, which I think is something that is often tossed around by her defenders. I remember in 2011 before she became really well known I thought she put out some poorly thought out videos, and I saw some feminists criticizing her back then.

Here's a couple of feminists in recent years that aren't big fans of hers either. (just to dispute the idea that only angry white males don't thin k too highly of her work)

Obviously stockholm syndrome, they're probably agents under the boot of The Hate Machine.

It's called internalized misogyny, shitlord. It's 2017, learn the proper feminist buzzwords to shut down criticism without even using an argument please.

[I'm a Puppy!]

I know it sounds dumb but I don't pay attention to any of Anita's detractors. Because either it's angry white men or when I watch a feminist one I sorta get the feeling that most of them are doing to Anita what she's doing to games. Picking a popular target to shit on for e cred.

I don't like Anita's work from a "I just don't like apologists" view which is my own issue. But she's actually created something, taken care to create it and cultivate it and make it popular. Which is far more than most of her detractors can say. Now, maybe there are detractors out there that do more than just shit on people's work, but honestly, I can't be arsed about it. To each their own

[Optimus]

I know it sounds dumb but I don't pay attention to any of Anita's detractors. Because either it's angry white men or when I watch a feminist one I sorta get the feeling that most of them are doing to Anita what she's doing to games. Picking a popular target to shit on for e cred.

I don't like Anita's work from a "I just don't like apologists" view which is my own issue. But she's actually created something, taken care to create it and cultivate it and make it popular. Which is far more than most of her detractors can say. Now, maybe there are detractors out there that do more than just shit on people's work, but honestly, I can't be arsed about it. To each their own

Yes, she created something, an unnecessary dumpster fire within the gaming community that has made the majority of gamers not even listen to legitimate criticism about games anymore. Hell, after the last few years I'm also guilty of that to a degree, I just don't want to hear every moron's social commentary about fucking games even if there might be some hidden gems there.

[I'm a Puppy!]

I've always said that looking to games for social commentary is like writing a thesis on the nutritional value of most gums.

[HardcoreRetro]

. Now, maybe there are detractors out there that do more than just shit on people's work, but honestly, I can't be arsed about it. To each their own

Isn't that basically what she herself did? Her good points get drowned out by the bunch of added bullshit.

[Snoopycat_]

"I walked into Remoulade on Bourbon Street tonight and thought of you fellas. A table full of gorgeous women, every shade from cafe au lait to deep mocha. All drunk, wearing scraps. I could feel your thirst all the way from here. Then I ate jambalaya and gumbo."

 

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=166639188&postcount=12756

[agrajag]

And then the restaurant had to 86 the jumbalaya and gumbo from the menu for the rest of the week 

[HardcoreRetro]

I've always said that looking to games for social commentary is like writing a thesis on the nutritional value of most gums.

Games like No More Heroes (Most of Grasshopper's stuff has social commentary.) and the new Mafia game have social commentary. Basically just gotta know where to look. But I guess feeding outrage culture is more interresting than taking a deeper look at stuff that might actually have something to say.

[OathToOrder]

Over 9000 hours in paint

[Optimus]

Oh shit I didn't notice that the crazy fuck mentioned me too in that post. Tag changed, I'm one of you guys now!

Also, good luck to any unlucky motherfucker that decides to use optimus as part of his username in that shithole.

[Jenkem]

hey besada put down the candy and let the little boy go
you know what I'm sayin?

punk motherfucker

[VomKriege]

Don't know what exactly happened in here but got a message about some falling out happening between RE mods and ex-GAF mods. Basically RE mods cut ties with all GAF mods and are forbidden to talk to them(Not sure how that works but ok).

No deets on why the argument happened, all I got is "there was a big-ass falling out because the GAF mods felt the ResetEra mods were being too lenient and the RE mods felt the GAF mods were way over the line with zealous banning over different points of view". So bore favorite Besada sneaking his way back into modship won't be a nightmare y'all will see come to fruition.

Who is my source? Can they elaborate more on the subject? Don't really give a shit. Don't @ me.

Hilarious if true. 

[agrajag]

Don't know what exactly happened in here but got a message about some falling out happening between RE mods and ex-GAF mods. Basically RE mods cut ties with all GAF mods and are forbidden to talk to them(Not sure how that works but ok).

No deets on why the argument happened, all I got is "there was a big-ass falling out because the GAF mods felt the ResetEra mods were being too lenient and the RE mods felt the GAF mods were way over the line with zealous banning over different points of view". So bore favorite Besada sneaking his way back into modship won't be a nightmare y'all will see come to fruition.

Who is my source? Can they elaborate more on the subject? Don't really give a shit. Don't @ me.

it's called a disconnection, the ex-mods are now considered suppressive persons, SP for short

[benjipwns]

And then the restaurant had to 86 the jumbalaya and gumbo from the menu for the rest of the week 

ya know, i've been on the internet too long, i initially assumed sexual food tampering was the root of this joke, not that he had eaten it all

[VomKriege]

As of today, ResetEra LLC rescinded non formal contracts for advisory positions with former Moderation Captains associated with NeoGAF LLC.

Aren't videogames fun ?

[benjipwns]

Don't know what exactly happened in here but got a message about some falling out happening between RE mods and ex-GAF mods. Basically RE mods cut ties with all GAF mods and are forbidden to talk to them(Not sure how that works but ok).

No deets on why the argument happened, all I got is "there was a big-ass falling out because the GAF mods felt the ResetEra mods were being too lenient and the RE mods felt the GAF mods were way over the line with zealous banning over different points of view". So bore favorite Besada sneaking his way back into modship won't be a nightmare y'all will see come to fruition.

Who is my source? Can they elaborate more on the subject? Don't really give a shit. Don't @ me.

i hope this doesn't cross the line of disclosing info for some who have talked to me and i'll understand if it does, but to add to this scuddlebutt as second in command (and keytarist) of Demi and The Hate Machine, i heard there was a discord chat (obviously as seen in that image) basically just getting advice from a few former GAF mods about moderating a "large" gaming forum which is a sensible thing to do imo (even from besada considering he put in 15-300 hours a week), something happened to cause this argument and the ERA mods in the chat were kicked out and locked out from that one, from what you say I guess that led to them all getting warned further

and considering that they named the super secret level discord pre-site launch as The Bunker, I'm half imaging they actually would name a secret level shadow admins discord The Star Chamber

[cityhunter]

"Internet hate machine" huh? Haven't heard that term used in a serious manner in a long time

[benjipwns]

to be fair, we do end every show by blowing up a van on stage

[benjipwns]

I only know Anita from gifs, but she looks like she is the type to laugh at her own jokes and then make a cocky face about it.

Finally, someone posts some legitimate criticism of her.

[benjipwns]

This image always owns me which is why I've never critiqued her because what am I gonna do, print out my Steam, Origin, uPlay and GOG lists? It'd still be just some sheets of paper on the floor, I couldn't even lean on them from the couch, I'd have to lay on the floor!

spoiler (click to show/hide)

I've always wondered if that Wii stack is really that tall of all Wii games or if they're all her Wii games on top of something else.

Because I might own more Wii games than Anita versus zero 360 and PS3 games.

[close]

[Rufus]

I only know Anita from gifs, but she looks like she is the type to laugh at her own jokes and then make a cocky face about it.

I'm glad we're not like that here. 

[benjipwns]

also the giant version of that image triggers me due to the lack of order the games are stacked in, except the Gears of War series

edit: okay, guess a few more series are also together, it's still less than 5% of them and there's no real order to things: https://g33kp0rn.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/sarkeesian-video-games.jpg

[benjipwns]

Pretty Hate Machine

our Hate Machine has fewer r's in it

[Raist]

How can one person even play that many games? That's literally thousands of hours.

Well she obviously didn't.

[Rufus]

Ask Demi.

[Jenkem]

How can one person even play that many games? That's literally thousands of hours.

Well she obviously didn't.

BESADA WAS RIGHT

[Novid]

Why do people hate anita so much?

she doesnt know the difference between race and religion for one.

[OathToOrder]

Don't know what exactly happened in here but got a message about some falling out happening between RE mods and ex-GAF mods. Basically RE mods cut ties with all GAF mods and are forbidden to talk to them(Not sure how that works but ok).

No deets on why the argument happened, all I got is "there was a big-ass falling out because the GAF mods felt the ResetEra mods were being too lenient and the RE mods felt the GAF mods were way over the line with zealous banning over different points of view". So bore favorite Besada sneaking his way back into modship won't be a nightmare y'all will see come to fruition.

Who is my source? Can they elaborate more on the subject? Don't really give a shit. Don't @ me.

Can't be true because some mods are still in discord. #fakenews

[Jenkem]

Don't know what exactly happened in here but got a message about some falling out happening between RE mods and ex-GAF mods. Basically RE mods cut ties with all GAF mods and are forbidden to talk to them(Not sure how that works but ok).

No deets on why the argument happened, all I got is "there was a big-ass falling out because the GAF mods felt the ResetEra mods were being too lenient and the RE mods felt the GAF mods were way over the line with zealous banning over different points of view". So bore favorite Besada sneaking his way back into modship won't be a nightmare y'all will see come to fruition.

Who is my source? Can they elaborate more on the subject? Don't really give a shit. Don't @ me.

Can't be true because some mods are still in discord. #fakenews
(Image removed from quote.)

uhh nothing in that picture disproves anything given the dates

[benjipwns]

Can't be true because some mods are still in discord. #fakenews
(Image removed from quote.)

look at that community management skill, you can't just learn that anywhere

[Makai]

No way this hasn't been posted.

https://kotaku.com/should-forum-moderators-be-paid-some-dont-even-want-to-1820047518

Forum moderators are the unsung heroes of the internet, but a lot of the time, they’re treated more like high school hall monitors than skilled workers. For no money and little thanks, moderators sift out the festering, useless gunk of online culture from the amazing shit that got us hooked on the internet in the first place.

NeoGAF’s stringent and discerning cast of moderators were what made the forum’s culture so appealing to gamers who weren’t seduced by harsher forum climates.

Really, every sentence in this article is gold. Super-flowery language to describe something barely interesting.

 

[OathToOrder]

Don't know what exactly happened in here but got a message about some falling out happening between RE mods and ex-GAF mods. Basically RE mods cut ties with all GAF mods and are forbidden to talk to them(Not sure how that works but ok).

No deets on why the argument happened, all I got is "there was a big-ass falling out because the GAF mods felt the ResetEra mods were being too lenient and the RE mods felt the GAF mods were way over the line with zealous banning over different points of view". So bore favorite Besada sneaking his way back into modship won't be a nightmare y'all will see come to fruition.

Who is my source? Can they elaborate more on the subject? Don't really give a shit. Don't @ me.

Can't be true because some mods are still in discord. #fakenews
(Image removed from quote.)

uhh nothing in that picture disproves anything given the dates

I am in the discord and screencapped it just minutes ago.

[Raist]

How can one person even play that many games? That's literally thousands of hours.

Well she obviously didn't.

BESADA WAS RIGHT

 

[Makai]

One long-time NeoGAF moderator, Besada, agreed that moderation qualifies as work, but said that a Christmas gift or, at best, a tiny share in profits would be ideal.

[benjipwns]

I am in the discord and screencapped it just minutes ago.

But are you in The Bunker or Star Chamber?

Sending your IP along to Emily Rogers as we speak.

[Jenkem]

Don't know what exactly happened in here but got a message about some falling out happening between RE mods and ex-GAF mods. Basically RE mods cut ties with all GAF mods and are forbidden to talk to them(Not sure how that works but ok).

No deets on why the argument happened, all I got is "there was a big-ass falling out because the GAF mods felt the ResetEra mods were being too lenient and the RE mods felt the GAF mods were way over the line with zealous banning over different points of view". So bore favorite Besada sneaking his way back into modship won't be a nightmare y'all will see come to fruition.

Who is my source? Can they elaborate more on the subject? Don't really give a shit. Don't @ me.

Can't be true because some mods are still in discord. #fakenews
(Image removed from quote.)

uhh nothing in that picture disproves anything given the dates

I am in the discord and screencapped it just minutes ago.

and the last entry is dated Oct. 30 2017

please tell me where on Earth it is currently that date

edit: oh I scrolled over to the right and see the list of the names nvm sorry

[who is ted danson?]

One long-time NeoGAF moderator, Besada, agreed that moderation qualifies as work, but said that a Christmas gift or, at best, a tiny share in profits would be ideal.

What about some Yum Brands vouchers for Christmas?

[OathToOrder]

Jen "I don't know how Discord works" kem.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

The member list is separate from the messages and is updated every microsecond

[close]

[benjipwns]

No way this hasn't been posted.

https://kotaku.com/should-forum-moderators-be-paid-some-dont-even-want-to-1820047518

Dennis alt spotted:

bullshooter4040
11/01/17 3:18pm
Moderation, like many volunteer work is a thankless job that most of us really take for granted.

Thank you mods everywhere for taking the time to wade through the sea of garbage us as a people produce.

Moral of the story: Be excellent to each other, otherwise, there are alternatives.