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« Reply #1920 on: March 14, 2018, 05:42:56 PM »
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That's awesome. I find the ads can really distract you away from the mod messages.

You can even stream shit on YouTube, how about a transgender counseling channel. I haven't seen those yet. $$$

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You fucking moron.

Jfc. If your response to someone who engaging in a non-obnoxious way with you is that inflammatory, it kind of explains your woes in the labour market.

Oh Go fuck yourself you piece of shit. You’ve done nothing but dehumanize and dismiss me and make an ass of yourself today, but if I said “you must have trouble making friends or keeping a job with that attitude” 20 people in here would laugh at me for assuming anyone acts irl exactly the way they do in here.

the reason why people dislike you and your ilk is because you are egotistical fucks who think the world should stop to address any problems or grievances you have. lots of people have had a shitty life, were bullied, were fucked over, etc. for a multitude of reasons, yet the vast majority of those go on with their lives to the best of their abilities and don't harbor a chip on their shoulder like an edgelord.

wow someone dehumanized you on a message board? oh fucking no

Why do you think a mod told people to stop misgendering and calling people it?

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« Reply #1921 on: March 14, 2018, 05:45:00 PM »
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« Reply #1922 on: March 14, 2018, 05:47:51 PM »
who was it who said that as soon cream got a little power he'd show who he was? As soon as he feels like he has mod leverage, look how he acts. Lol.

Honestly, I didn’t even report anyone until AFTER a mod said don’t do it and they continued. And I’m still expecting it to not even lead to anything.

I legitimately had the thought “it’s more likely that the mod wants to get rid of me too. If he pretends to care, and then someone keeps doing it, and they don’t get disciplined, they might think that’s an easy way to get me to leave.”

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« Reply #1923 on: March 14, 2018, 05:50:33 PM »
lol wtf is wrong with you

Idk I didn’t think it was that far fetched. Was just a thought.

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« Reply #1924 on: March 14, 2018, 05:52:34 PM »
I've been reading bore for a long time, you people bitch about careposting and the thread turning into a toilet and so on but imo it has never been better. This is the peak of human civilization and if you don't agree what the FUCK are you talking about, you brain dead cretin? How the FUCK would you know ANYTHING about threads? You are a sociopathic, ignorant asshole. A complete waste of anyone’s time that REFUSES to consider anyone but yourself.

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« Reply #1925 on: March 14, 2018, 05:53:06 PM »

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« Reply #1926 on: March 14, 2018, 05:53:56 PM »
I've been reading bore for a long time, you people bitch about careposting and the thread turning into a toilet and so on but imo it has never been better. This is the peak of human civilization and if you don't agree what the FUCK are you talking about, you brain dead cretin? How the FUCK would you know ANYTHING about threads? You are a sociopathic, ignorant asshole. A complete waste of anyone’s time that REFUSES to consider anyone but yourself.

Yes that’s like when I said it to you. Good job.

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« Reply #1927 on: March 14, 2018, 05:54:15 PM »
I KNOW that I am both male and female. I do not hate my body  but I have frequent daily experiences of gender dysphoria.

...but the "bi" would imply simultaneously. What you are describing is not simultaneous.

No there are many bigender people  where is not simultaneous.  Or people where it is simultaneous but not all of the time and sometimes it’s one or the other.  For me it is simultaneous most of the time.  And even when it is simultaneous that doesn’t mean I don’t get dysphoria from half of my identity being out of body.  It’s just not as severe dysphoria as it would be if I was completely trans.

Wtf does it mean when it's simultaneous?  :lol Do you feel like pounding a few beers with the boys at the monster truck show but at the same time you feel like mentruating?

I don’t know what to tell you, sorry. I just spend most of the day feeling both male and female at the same time, and sometimes one more than the other.

Exactly, you do not have an intelligible answer to provide me with. How can you expect me to relate to your experience when you cannot even communicate it on any level?

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« Reply #1928 on: March 14, 2018, 05:55:31 PM »
who was it who said that as soon cream got a little power he'd show who he was? As soon as he feels like he has mod leverage, look how he acts. Lol.

Honestly, I didn’t even report anyone until AFTER a mod said don’t do it and they continued. And I’m still expecting it to not even lead to anything.


 :lol

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« Reply #1929 on: March 14, 2018, 05:56:50 PM »
I've been reading bore for a long time, you people bitch about careposting and the thread turning into a toilet and so on but imo it has never been better. This is the peak of human civilization and if you don't agree what the FUCK are you talking about, you brain dead cretin? How the FUCK would you know ANYTHING about threads? You are a sociopathic, ignorant asshole. A complete waste of anyone’s time that REFUSES to consider anyone but yourself.

Yes that’s like when I said it to you. Good job.

I'm copy pasting and giggling like a little girl. I don't know or care if others find it funny, I'm having a blast here.

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« Reply #1930 on: March 14, 2018, 05:57:37 PM »
I KNOW that I am both male and female. I do not hate my body  but I have frequent daily experiences of gender dysphoria.

...but the "bi" would imply simultaneously. What you are describing is not simultaneous.

No there are many bigender people  where is not simultaneous.  Or people where it is simultaneous but not all of the time and sometimes it’s one or the other.  For me it is simultaneous most of the time.  And even when it is simultaneous that doesn’t mean I don’t get dysphoria from half of my identity being out of body.  It’s just not as severe dysphoria as it would be if I was completely trans.

Wtf does it mean when it's simultaneous?  :lol Do you feel like pounding a few beers with the boys at the monster truck show but at the same time you feel like mentruating?

I don’t know what to tell you, sorry. I just spend most of the day feeling both male and female at the same time, and sometimes one more than the other.

Exactly, you do not have am intelligible answer to provide me with. How can you expect me to relate to your experience when you cannot even communicate it on any level?

I don’t expect you to relate. I’d just prefer if you didn’t just straight to “You’re a CRAZY IT”.

It’s very frustrating that I’m unable to articulate my experience in a way that you accept but I have met plenty of cis people that have asked, I’ll say “I’m both a guy and a girl.” And they’ll say “okay. What should I call you then?” And I’ll say “he or she is fine” and they say “ok cool” and then we keep being friends.

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« Reply #1931 on: March 14, 2018, 05:58:59 PM »
cream: I have doubts that you understand how statistics work and what they mean. Do you understand why people dismiss the gender wage gap arguments? Why people find the "women earn 77 cents on the dollar" talking points to be a joke?

Or do you realize why self reporting of discrimination isn't reliable? Or why your study you linked is combining a bunch of studies with varying methodology and aligning them up in a way to make its point makes the argument weak?

If you just want to answer one of the questions, I'm fine with that. I'm not intending to overload you since you are in defense mode. I just want to push you towards a path of breaking down stats at their core.

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« Reply #1932 on: March 14, 2018, 06:01:05 PM »
I have a pal who is bigender and it took a lot of work for me to understand it, but it was worth doing because now I understand them so much better.

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« Reply #1933 on: March 14, 2018, 06:01:49 PM »
cream: I have doubts that you understand how statistics work and what they mean. Do you understand why people dismiss the gender wage gap arguments? Why people find the "women earn 77 cents on the dollar" talking points to be a joke?

Or do you realize why self reporting of discrimination isn't reliable? Or why your study you linked is combining a bunch of studies with varying methodology and aligning them up in a way to make its point makes the argument weak?

If you just want to answer one of the questions, I'm fine with that. I'm not intending to overload you since you are in defense mode. I just want to push you towards a path of breaking down stats at their core.

Motherfucker I’ve seen people on here shit on you for the most brain dead opinions possible. You’re a laughing stock like me. Keep your blind rabid skepticism to yourself.

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« Reply #1934 on: March 14, 2018, 06:03:24 PM »
I'll take that as a no.

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« Reply #1935 on: March 14, 2018, 06:03:40 PM »
I honetly think Cream is a moron for his stupid behavior but this gender stuff is taking things too far. Kinda fucked up that some of you are focusing on that.

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« Reply #1936 on: March 14, 2018, 06:03:51 PM »
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« Reply #1937 on: March 14, 2018, 06:04:49 PM »
nba statistics are my fav type of statistics

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« Reply #1938 on: March 14, 2018, 06:05:38 PM »
I KNOW that I am both male and female. I do not hate my body  but I have frequent daily experiences of gender dysphoria.

...but the "bi" would imply simultaneously. What you are describing is not simultaneous.

No there are many bigender people  where is not simultaneous.  Or people where it is simultaneous but not all of the time and sometimes it’s one or the other.  For me it is simultaneous most of the time.  And even when it is simultaneous that doesn’t mean I don’t get dysphoria from half of my identity being out of body.  It’s just not as severe dysphoria as it would be if I was completely trans.

Wtf does it mean when it's simultaneous?  :lol Do you feel like pounding a few beers with the boys at the monster truck show but at the same time you feel like mentruating?

I don’t know what to tell you, sorry. I just spend most of the day feeling both male and female at the same time, and sometimes one more than the other.

Exactly, you do not have am intelligible answer to provide me with. How can you expect me to relate to your experience when you cannot even communicate it on any level?

I don’t expect you to relate. I’d just prefer if you didn’t just straight to “You’re a CRAZY IT”.

It’s very frustrating that I’m unable to articulate my experience in a way that you accept but I have met plenty of cis people that have asked, I’ll say “I’m both a guy and a girl.” And they’ll say “okay. What should I call you then?” And I’ll say “he or she is fine” and they say “ok cool” and then we keep being friends.

Umm, I've always called you a he or she, but ok.

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« Reply #1939 on: March 14, 2018, 06:05:44 PM »
Don't leper: Moblin

Leper: Everyone else including me of course

etiolate

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« Reply #1940 on: March 14, 2018, 06:05:56 PM »
So let's get back to a topic y'all can discuss.

Sonic is growing boobs. Will this make him slower? Debate. And are the boobs really just knuckles fists protruding out after a hot vore session?

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« Reply #1941 on: March 14, 2018, 06:06:08 PM »
Way to ruin the one place I didn't have to deal with angry placard-waving nutjobs by engaging with the angriest placard-waving nutjob I know of.

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« Reply #1942 on: March 14, 2018, 06:08:43 PM »

Keep your blind rabid skepticism to yourself.

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« Reply #1943 on: March 14, 2018, 06:08:47 PM »


just looking for an excuse to post this

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« Reply #1944 on: March 14, 2018, 06:09:57 PM »
So let's get back to a topic y'all can discuss.

Sonic is growing boobs. Will this make him slower? Debate. And are the boobs really just knuckles fists protruding out after a hot vore session?

Acting like having female attributes make a person less athletic, what a problematic sociopath cretin!

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« Reply #1945 on: March 14, 2018, 06:16:00 PM »
What even is gender

I've had enough of your rabid biases, you blind freethinker! Ignoring you forever.

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« Reply #1946 on: March 14, 2018, 06:17:35 PM »
this thread got creamed  :taylor
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« Reply #1947 on: March 14, 2018, 06:17:55 PM »
I love that etiolate is pretty much the only poster here who tried to debate Cream in a civilized manner and he was denied because of his "reputation". Remember people, it's not your arguments or behavior that truly matters, it's what side you've chosen.

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« Reply #1948 on: March 14, 2018, 06:18:39 PM »
As for me, I really don’t give much of a fuss over my gender. I get called he or she pretty much 50 50. I can only speak for myself of course, but it only sometimes bothers me. I kinda roll with it. I’m just me trying to get shit done like everyone else. Don’t be an asshole to people and don’t let people be assholes to you. At least that’s how I see it.

IRL, being queer isn’t a big deal to me because I don’t make it a big deal.
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« Reply #1949 on: March 14, 2018, 06:19:10 PM »
Have we freed Creepy Stalker yet?
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« Reply #1950 on: March 14, 2018, 06:20:12 PM »
when huelen is more mature and level headed than you (cream)

 :neogaf

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« Reply #1951 on: March 14, 2018, 06:21:17 PM »
Stufte had a long conversation with Cream and things were civil then. Things didn't deteriorate on their own.

We hit fecal smearing levels real fucking quick once the first rock was thrown. :doge

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« Reply #1952 on: March 14, 2018, 06:22:56 PM »
I love that etiolate is pretty much the only poster here who tried to debate Cream in a civilized manner and he was denied because of his "reputation". Remember people, it's not your arguments or behavior that truly matters, it's what side you've chosen.

Inferring a person is a moron, asserting without supporting evidence that a well regarded study is erroneous, and self-proclaiming intellectual superiority is what constitutes civility?

No wonder both of you struggle with basic socialization.

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« Reply #1953 on: March 14, 2018, 06:27:17 PM »
I love that etiolate is pretty much the only poster here who tried to debate Cream in a civilized manner and he was denied because of his "reputation". Remember people, it's not your arguments or behavior that truly matters, it's what side you've chosen.

Inferring a person is a moron, asserting without supporting evidence that a well regarded study is erroneous, and self-proclaiming intellectual superiority is what constitutes civility?

No wonder both of you struggle with basic socialization.

Well, Cream is a moron but etiolate never even implied that. How do you know I struggle with basic socialization, Freud?

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« Reply #1954 on: March 14, 2018, 06:27:31 PM »
What even is gender
A miserable pile of power relations.

:foucault-laughing

Cream

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« Reply #1955 on: March 14, 2018, 06:31:50 PM »
I love that etiolate is pretty much the only poster here who tried to debate Cream in a civilized manner and he was denied because of his "reputation". Remember people, it's not your arguments or behavior that truly matters, it's what side you've chosen.

Not reputation. Etiolate already tried to argue with me that “white privilege doesn’t exist” so I really don’t plan on taking stock in him trying to tell me I’m the one who needs perspective and to learn to read stats right.

I was able to have a civil conversation with Stufte just fine yesterday.

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« Reply #1956 on: March 14, 2018, 06:33:18 PM »
I never said white privilege doesn't exist. I said its a weak privilege in comparison to all the other traits a person is born into and the focus on white and male privilege in public discourse betrays a bigotry behind the speakers.

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« Reply #1957 on: March 14, 2018, 06:34:21 PM »
I never said white privilege doesn't exist. I said its a weak privilege in comparison to all the other traits a person is born into and the focus on white and male privilege in public discourse betrays a bigotry behind the speakers.

And you’re incredibly wrong about whiteness being a weak privilege.

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« Reply #1958 on: March 14, 2018, 06:38:03 PM »
As for me, I really don’t give much of a fuss over my gender. I get called he or she pretty much 50 50. I can only speak for myself of course, but it only sometimes bothers me. I kinda roll with it. I’m just me trying to get shit done like everyone else. Don’t be an asshole to people and don’t let people be assholes to you. At least that’s how I see it.

IRL, being queer isn’t a big deal to me because I don’t make it a big deal.

Cindi, you are fucking awesome. Never change. <3
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« Reply #1959 on: March 14, 2018, 06:39:11 PM »
As for me, I really don’t give much of a fuss over my gender. I get called he or she pretty much 50 50. I can only speak for myself of course, but it only sometimes bothers me. I kinda roll with it. I’m just me trying to get shit done like everyone else. Don’t be an asshole to people and don’t let people be assholes to you. At least that’s how I see it.

IRL, being queer isn’t a big deal to me because I don’t make it a big deal.

 Didn’t you vote for trump?

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« Reply #1960 on: March 14, 2018, 06:40:09 PM »
As for me, I really don’t give much of a fuss over my gender. I get called he or she pretty much 50 50. I can only speak for myself of course, but it only sometimes bothers me. I kinda roll with it. I’m just me trying to get shit done like everyone else. Don’t be an asshole to people and don’t let people be assholes to you. At least that’s how I see it.

IRL, being queer isn’t a big deal to me because I don’t make it a big deal.

 Didn’t you vote for trump?
No. Why would you assume such a thing? Furthermore, what does that have to do with anything I posted about?

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« Reply #1961 on: March 14, 2018, 06:41:25 PM »

 Didn’t you vote for trump?

...at this point, it's like you're just digging for things to get outraged about.
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« Reply #1962 on: March 14, 2018, 06:42:21 PM »
I love that etiolate is pretty much the only poster here who tried to debate Cream in a civilized manner and he was denied because of his "reputation". Remember people, it's not your arguments or behavior that truly matters, it's what side you've chosen.

Not reputation. Etiolate already tried to argue with me that “white privilege doesn’t exist” so I really don’t plan on taking stock in him trying to tell me I’m the one who needs perspective and to learn to read stats right.

I was able to have a civil conversation with Stufte just fine yesterday.

OK, we need to start keeping count. What is this, the 10th time Cream misunderstood someone's argument the last couple of days?

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« Reply #1963 on: March 14, 2018, 06:43:53 PM »
Idk  just heard from a lot of people that you supported Trump.

 If that was true then you saying all this stuff about letting people live would be bullshit but you say that it’s not true so forget it.  It’s just what I heard from a bunch of people

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« Reply #1964 on: March 14, 2018, 06:44:37 PM »
OK, we need to start keeping count. What is this, the 10th time Cream misunderstood someone's argument the last couple of days?

He's doing it on purpose and you're taking the bait.
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« Reply #1965 on: March 14, 2018, 06:45:08 PM »
I never said white privilege doesn't exist. I said its a weak privilege in comparison to all the other traits a person is born into and the focus on white and male privilege in public discourse betrays a bigotry behind the speakers.

Are you trying to say a black man has more privilege than a white, poor, wheelchair-bound man of lower-than-average intelligence?

Tell that to all the black men that can't get facial recognition to work on their new $900 phone with 100% accuracy.

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« Reply #1966 on: March 14, 2018, 06:45:30 PM »

OK, we need to start keeping count. What is this, the 10th time Cream misunderstood someone's argument the last couple of days?

you're expecting reading comprehension from an ERA star poster?

lol you sweet summer child

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« Reply #1967 on: March 14, 2018, 06:48:00 PM »
Why are you all like this

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« Reply #1968 on: March 14, 2018, 06:49:11 PM »
 :stop
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« Reply #1969 on: March 14, 2018, 06:50:19 PM »
I never said white privilege doesn't exist. I said its a weak privilege in comparison to all the other traits a person is born into and the focus on white and male privilege in public discourse betrays a bigotry behind the speakers.

Are you trying to say a black man has more privilege than a white, poor, wheelchair-bound man of lower-than-average intelligence?

Tell that to all the black men that can't get facial recognition to work on their new $900 phone with 100% accuracy.

 This is fucking ridiculous...

WHY do you do this?

Why is it so difficult for people to understand?

All the evidence overwhelmingly supports that racism contributes heavily to massive ubiquitous social inequality!

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« Reply #1970 on: March 14, 2018, 06:51:37 PM »
I love that etiolate is pretty much the only poster here who tried to debate Cream in a civilized manner and he was denied because of his "reputation". Remember people, it's not your arguments or behavior that truly matters, it's what side you've chosen.

Inferring a person is a moron, asserting without supporting evidence that a well regarded study is erroneous, and self-proclaiming intellectual superiority is what constitutes civility?

No wonder both of you struggle with basic socialization.

Well, Cream is a moron but etiolate never even implied that.

 :gurl  There is rarely a post where etiolate isn't trying to imply that. 

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How do you know I struggle with basic socialization, Freud?

You honestly both spend more time than almost anyone else I observe around this place trying to tear down and berate the people around here and the broad identity buckets you subjectively place them in.

Often, so oblivious to the antagonistic behavior you engage in you find yourself claiming the victim. Like when you ran out of the the politics thread for months because people finally called you on your shit arguments after showing up every other day post election passive aggressively berating anyone you conjured up as sympathetic to the vague catch-all neoliberal cabal.

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« Reply #1972 on: March 14, 2018, 06:58:41 PM »
I never said white privilege doesn't exist. I said its a weak privilege in comparison to all the other traits a person is born into and the focus on white and male privilege in public discourse betrays a bigotry behind the speakers.

And you’re incredibly wrong about whiteness being a weak privilege.

White privilege is majority privilege in America since the majority of people are white. This is where you get into familiarity bias. However, that can go both ways. For every neophobe there may be a neophile.

Instead of using a term like privilege, let's use a words like advantage and disadvantage because those are imo more relevant to discussions about life experience.

Let's look at a stronger advantage: Physical Attractiveness

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Effects of perceived attractiveness and academic performance on 9th graders' ratings of peers' popularity were investigated. Participants were 270 9th graders (152 girls, 118 boys) who read a vignette describing a hypothetical same-sex peer with whom the student had been assigned to complete a project. The partner's attractiveness and academic performance were systematically varied in four conditions: high attractiveness/high grades, high attractiveness/low grades, low attractiveness/high grades, and low attractiveness/low grades. After reading the vignette, the students rated the partner's popularity. As hypothesized, analyses of variance revealed that attractive partners were significantly more popular than unattractive partners, regardless of whether the partner had high or low grades. Contrary to expectation, attractiveness was not more important to girls than to boys. Integration with past research and suggestions for future research are offered.
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00221329809596155

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We report the findings of a meta-analytic review of experimental studies concerned with the biasing effect of physical attractiveness on a variety of job-related outcomes. In support of implicit personality theory, attractive individuals were found to fare better than unattractive individuals in terms of a number of such outcomes. The weighted mean effect size, d, was .37 for all studies. In addition, tests for moderating effects showed that (a) the attractiveness bias did not differ between studies that provided low versus high amounts of job-relevant information about the targets, (b) the same bias was greater for within-subjects research designs than for between-subjects designs, (c) professionals were as susceptible to the bias as were college students, (d) attractiveness was as important for men as for women, and (e) the biasing effect of attractiveness has decreased in recent years. Implications of these findings are considered.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/229517285_The_effects_of_physical_attractiveness_on_job-related_outcomes_A_meta-analysis_of_experimental_studies

And this is a rundown of the various ways physical attractiveness benefits people in the workplace:

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/00224540903365414

I can't break down the studies in these because they are behind paywalls, but there are multiple studies on this showing the advantage of being physically attractive. Now that's a pretty strong factor on its own, but what makes it stronger is that it travels.

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This field experiment found that Hong Kong human resources management specialists were influenced by the attractiveness bias in evaluating short-listed candidates for an entry-level trainee position. Zero order, stepwise and hierarchical regressions showed that perceived attractiveness of the candidates was more related to their work experience and work-related skills than to grade-point average and public examination results. Women candidates were generally preferred over male candidates. Further research is suggested to determine if the influence of attractiveness extends over a wider range of jobs and to measure more precisely the influence of attractiveness in different cultures and for men and women.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/09585190110092857

So in Hong Kong, if you're Chinese then you have a majority group advantage, but if you move to America then you become a minority group. However, if you're attractive in Hong Kong then you have the same advantage in America.

Attractiveness continually has positive influence. Whiteness has a huge variance of outcomes because its less important a trait than something like attractiveness. Whiteness doesn't travel. You are no longer the majority when you move to Hong Kong or Mumbai or Tokyo. That's why white skin is a weak advantage. It won't overcome a low IQ and an unattractive form. It won't overcome low conscientiousness and high agreeableness. It won't overcome an addictive personality. It won't overcome very poor physical health.

Stephen Hawking just died. He was white. That's not why he succeeded. He had a debilitating disease. That mattered more than his skin color. So why did he overcome that? Extreme intelligence and a good personality, along with a period of his life with decent health and decent attractiveness. His intelligence and his other personality traits kept him relevant and able to communicate while his body simply could not accomplish these tasks on its own.

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« Reply #1973 on: March 14, 2018, 07:00:35 PM »
I never said white privilege doesn't exist. I said its a weak privilege in comparison to all the other traits a person is born into and the focus on white and male privilege in public discourse betrays a bigotry behind the speakers.

And you’re incredibly wrong about whiteness being a weak privilege.

White privilege is majority privilege in America since the majority of people are white. This is where you get into familiarity bias. However, that can go both ways. For every neophobe there may be a neophile.

Instead of using a term like privilege, let's use a words like advantage and disadvantage because those are imo more relevant to discussions about life experience.

Let's look at a stronger advantage: Physical Attractiveness

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Effects of perceived attractiveness and academic performance on 9th graders' ratings of peers' popularity were investigated. Participants were 270 9th graders (152 girls, 118 boys) who read a vignette describing a hypothetical same-sex peer with whom the student had been assigned to complete a project. The partner's attractiveness and academic performance were systematically varied in four conditions: high attractiveness/high grades, high attractiveness/low grades, low attractiveness/high grades, and low attractiveness/low grades. After reading the vignette, the students rated the partner's popularity. As hypothesized, analyses of variance revealed that attractive partners were significantly more popular than unattractive partners, regardless of whether the partner had high or low grades. Contrary to expectation, attractiveness was not more important to girls than to boys. Integration with past research and suggestions for future research are offered.
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00221329809596155

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We report the findings of a meta-analytic review of experimental studies concerned with the biasing effect of physical attractiveness on a variety of job-related outcomes. In support of implicit personality theory, attractive individuals were found to fare better than unattractive individuals in terms of a number of such outcomes. The weighted mean effect size, d, was .37 for all studies. In addition, tests for moderating effects showed that (a) the attractiveness bias did not differ between studies that provided low versus high amounts of job-relevant information about the targets, (b) the same bias was greater for within-subjects research designs than for between-subjects designs, (c) professionals were as susceptible to the bias as were college students, (d) attractiveness was as important for men as for women, and (e) the biasing effect of attractiveness has decreased in recent years. Implications of these findings are considered.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/229517285_The_effects_of_physical_attractiveness_on_job-related_outcomes_A_meta-analysis_of_experimental_studies

And this is a rundown of the various ways physical attractiveness benefits people in the workplace:

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/00224540903365414

I can't break down the studies in these because they are behind paywalls, but there are multiple studies on this showing the advantage of being physically attractive. Now that's a pretty strong factor on its own, but what makes it stronger is that it travels.

Quote
This field experiment found that Hong Kong human resources management specialists were influenced by the attractiveness bias in evaluating short-listed candidates for an entry-level trainee position. Zero order, stepwise and hierarchical regressions showed that perceived attractiveness of the candidates was more related to their work experience and work-related skills than to grade-point average and public examination results. Women candidates were generally preferred over male candidates. Further research is suggested to determine if the influence of attractiveness extends over a wider range of jobs and to measure more precisely the influence of attractiveness in different cultures and for men and women.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/09585190110092857

So in Hong Kong, if you're Chinese then you have an majority group advantage, but if you move to America then you become a minority group. However, if you're attractive in Hong Kong then you have the same advantage in America.

Attractiveness continually has positive influence. Whiteness has a huge variance of outcomes because its less important a trait than something like attractiveness. Whiteness doesn't travel. You are no longer the majority when you move to Hong Kong or Mumbai or Tokyo. That's why white skin is a weak advantage. It won't overcome a low IQ and an unattractive form. It won't overcome low conscientiousness and high agreeableness. It won't overcome an addictive personality. It won't overcome very poor physical health.

Stephen Hawking just died. He was white. That's not why he succeeded. He had a debilitating disease. That mattered more than his skin color. So why did he overcome that? Extreme intelligence and a good personality, along with a period of his life with decent health and decent attractiveness. His intelligence and his other personality traits kept him relevant and able to communicate while his body simply could not accomplish these tasks on its own.

Jfc

There really is no amount of proof about racial inequality that will ever change your mind, huh?

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« Reply #1974 on: March 14, 2018, 07:00:57 PM »
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How do you know I struggle with basic socialization, Freud?

You honestly both spend more time than almost anyone else I observe around this place trying to tear down and berate the people around here and the broad identity buckets you subjectively place them in.

Often, so oblivious to the antagonistic behavior you engage in you find yourself claiming the victim. Like when you ran out of the the politics thread for months because people finally called you on your shit arguments after showing up every other day post election passive aggressively berating anyone you conjured up as sympathetic to the vague catch-all neoliberal cabal.


Goddamn, you're fucking delusional. Not only I don't spend time that much time here but often I stop posting for days or weeks. Plus I never play the victim, I shit on Clinton shills like you, I sometimes act like an asshole but I never play the victim. The reason I don't visit that thread often is because it's nothing but annoying Trump drama I'm not interested in. The big picture is more important to me than whining pointlessly about the idiot, it's been more than a year get over it.

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« Reply #1975 on: March 14, 2018, 07:02:29 PM »
....okay then etoilet, now explain to me how Hawking managed to fuck his nurse, despite only being able to move his cheek.
woke

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« Reply #1976 on: March 14, 2018, 07:03:08 PM »
Idk  just heard from a lot of people that you supported Trump.

 If that was true then you saying all this stuff about letting people live would be bullshit but you say that it’s not true so forget it.  It’s just what I heard from a bunch of people
1. So hearing stuff makes it true?
2. Even if allegations were true, let’s merely entertain the thought for sake of argument, your claim would still make no sense. The president, last I checked, certainly hasn’t killed citizens based on thier queerness. Did a “bunch of people” say the president was doing this?
3. Again, what does this have to do with anything? With the latter part of “all this stuff about letting people live would be bullshit” in your post, it would be valid to make the assumption that you are trying to derail or demonize someone. Not making any claims of that nature of course, but certainly such a claim could be valid.
4. Again, respectfully, what does this have anything to do with my original post?

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« Reply #1977 on: March 14, 2018, 07:05:11 PM »
I never said white privilege doesn't exist. I said its a weak privilege in comparison to all the other traits a person is born into and the focus on white and male privilege in public discourse betrays a bigotry behind the speakers.

And you’re incredibly wrong about whiteness being a weak privilege.

White privilege is majority privilege in America since the majority of people are white. This is where you get into familiarity bias. However, that can go both ways. For every neophobe there may be a neophile.

Instead of using a term like privilege, let's use a words like advantage and disadvantage because those are imo more relevant to discussions about life experience.

Let's look at a stronger advantage: Physical Attractiveness

Quote
Effects of perceived attractiveness and academic performance on 9th graders' ratings of peers' popularity were investigated. Participants were 270 9th graders (152 girls, 118 boys) who read a vignette describing a hypothetical same-sex peer with whom the student had been assigned to complete a project. The partner's attractiveness and academic performance were systematically varied in four conditions: high attractiveness/high grades, high attractiveness/low grades, low attractiveness/high grades, and low attractiveness/low grades. After reading the vignette, the students rated the partner's popularity. As hypothesized, analyses of variance revealed that attractive partners were significantly more popular than unattractive partners, regardless of whether the partner had high or low grades. Contrary to expectation, attractiveness was not more important to girls than to boys. Integration with past research and suggestions for future research are offered.
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00221329809596155

Quote
We report the findings of a meta-analytic review of experimental studies concerned with the biasing effect of physical attractiveness on a variety of job-related outcomes. In support of implicit personality theory, attractive individuals were found to fare better than unattractive individuals in terms of a number of such outcomes. The weighted mean effect size, d, was .37 for all studies. In addition, tests for moderating effects showed that (a) the attractiveness bias did not differ between studies that provided low versus high amounts of job-relevant information about the targets, (b) the same bias was greater for within-subjects research designs than for between-subjects designs, (c) professionals were as susceptible to the bias as were college students, (d) attractiveness was as important for men as for women, and (e) the biasing effect of attractiveness has decreased in recent years. Implications of these findings are considered.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/229517285_The_effects_of_physical_attractiveness_on_job-related_outcomes_A_meta-analysis_of_experimental_studies

And this is a rundown of the various ways physical attractiveness benefits people in the workplace:

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/00224540903365414

I can't break down the studies in these because they are behind paywalls, but there are multiple studies on this showing the advantage of being physically attractive. Now that's a pretty strong factor on its own, but what makes it stronger is that it travels.

Quote
This field experiment found that Hong Kong human resources management specialists were influenced by the attractiveness bias in evaluating short-listed candidates for an entry-level trainee position. Zero order, stepwise and hierarchical regressions showed that perceived attractiveness of the candidates was more related to their work experience and work-related skills than to grade-point average and public examination results. Women candidates were generally preferred over male candidates. Further research is suggested to determine if the influence of attractiveness extends over a wider range of jobs and to measure more precisely the influence of attractiveness in different cultures and for men and women.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/09585190110092857

So in Hong Kong, if you're Chinese then you have an majority group advantage, but if you move to America then you become a minority group. However, if you're attractive in Hong Kong then you have the same advantage in America.

Attractiveness continually has positive influence. Whiteness has a huge variance of outcomes because its less important a trait than something like attractiveness. Whiteness doesn't travel. You are no longer the majority when you move to Hong Kong or Mumbai or Tokyo. That's why white skin is a weak advantage. It won't overcome a low IQ and an unattractive form. It won't overcome low conscientiousness and high agreeableness. It won't overcome an addictive personality. It won't overcome very poor physical health.

Stephen Hawking just died. He was white. That's not why he succeeded. He had a debilitating disease. That mattered more than his skin color. So why did he overcome that? Extreme intelligence and a good personality, along with a period of his life with decent health and decent attractiveness. His intelligence and his other personality traits kept him relevant and able to communicate while his body simply could not accomplish these tasks on its own.

Nothing in any of that concludes physical attractiveness is somehow a superior advantage to race in terms of social or economic advantages in countries with long histories of structural racial disadvantage. Or that racial advantages in countries such as ours are comparatively weak to all others, as you asserted earlier.

Frankly I am not even sure how one could ever come to a definitive conclusion on a question like that. Or establish a workable framework to definitively measure it?

This is a good example though of how your thinking process is so ridiculous.






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« Reply #1978 on: March 14, 2018, 07:05:28 PM »
Idk  just heard from a lot of people that you supported Trump.

 If that was true then you saying all this stuff about letting people live would be bullshit but you say that it’s not true so forget it.  It’s just what I heard from a bunch of people
1. So hearing stuff makes it true?
2. Even if allegations were true, let’s merely entertain the thought for sake of argument, your claim would still make no sense. The president, last I checked, certainly hasn’t killed citizen based on thier queerness. Did a “bunch of people” say the president was doing this?
3. Again, what does this have to do with anything? With the latter part of “all this stuff about letting people live would be bullshit” in your post, it would be valid to make the assumption that you are trying to derail or demonize someone. Not making any claims of that nature of course, but certainly such a claim could be valid.
4. Again, respectfully, what does this have anything to do with my original post?

Well Considering Trump is an incredibly racist, homophobic, sexist abusing money-stealing traitor that tried to ban trans people from serving in the military, supporting him and “letting people live” is completely incompatible.

But you said you don’t support Trump.

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« Reply #1979 on: March 14, 2018, 07:07:18 PM »
I never said white privilege doesn't exist. I said its a weak privilege in comparison to all the other traits a person is born into and the focus on white and male privilege in public discourse betrays a bigotry behind the speakers.

And you’re incredibly wrong about whiteness being a weak privilege.

White privilege is majority privilege in America since the majority of people are white. This is where you get into familiarity bias. However, that can go both ways. For every neophobe there may be a neophile.

Instead of using a term like privilege, let's use a words like advantage and disadvantage because those are imo more relevant to discussions about life experience.

Let's look at a stronger advantage: Physical Attractiveness

Quote
Effects of perceived attractiveness and academic performance on 9th graders' ratings of peers' popularity were investigated. Participants were 270 9th graders (152 girls, 118 boys) who read a vignette describing a hypothetical same-sex peer with whom the student had been assigned to complete a project. The partner's attractiveness and academic performance were systematically varied in four conditions: high attractiveness/high grades, high attractiveness/low grades, low attractiveness/high grades, and low attractiveness/low grades. After reading the vignette, the students rated the partner's popularity. As hypothesized, analyses of variance revealed that attractive partners were significantly more popular than unattractive partners, regardless of whether the partner had high or low grades. Contrary to expectation, attractiveness was not more important to girls than to boys. Integration with past research and suggestions for future research are offered.
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00221329809596155

Quote
We report the findings of a meta-analytic review of experimental studies concerned with the biasing effect of physical attractiveness on a variety of job-related outcomes. In support of implicit personality theory, attractive individuals were found to fare better than unattractive individuals in terms of a number of such outcomes. The weighted mean effect size, d, was .37 for all studies. In addition, tests for moderating effects showed that (a) the attractiveness bias did not differ between studies that provided low versus high amounts of job-relevant information about the targets, (b) the same bias was greater for within-subjects research designs than for between-subjects designs, (c) professionals were as susceptible to the bias as were college students, (d) attractiveness was as important for men as for women, and (e) the biasing effect of attractiveness has decreased in recent years. Implications of these findings are considered.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/229517285_The_effects_of_physical_attractiveness_on_job-related_outcomes_A_meta-analysis_of_experimental_studies

And this is a rundown of the various ways physical attractiveness benefits people in the workplace:

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/00224540903365414

I can't break down the studies in these because they are behind paywalls, but there are multiple studies on this showing the advantage of being physically attractive. Now that's a pretty strong factor on its own, but what makes it stronger is that it travels.

Quote
This field experiment found that Hong Kong human resources management specialists were influenced by the attractiveness bias in evaluating short-listed candidates for an entry-level trainee position. Zero order, stepwise and hierarchical regressions showed that perceived attractiveness of the candidates was more related to their work experience and work-related skills than to grade-point average and public examination results. Women candidates were generally preferred over male candidates. Further research is suggested to determine if the influence of attractiveness extends over a wider range of jobs and to measure more precisely the influence of attractiveness in different cultures and for men and women.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/09585190110092857

So in Hong Kong, if you're Chinese then you have an majority group advantage, but if you move to America then you become a minority group. However, if you're attractive in Hong Kong then you have the same advantage in America.

Attractiveness continually has positive influence. Whiteness has a huge variance of outcomes because its less important a trait than something like attractiveness. Whiteness doesn't travel. You are no longer the majority when you move to Hong Kong or Mumbai or Tokyo. That's why white skin is a weak advantage. It won't overcome a low IQ and an unattractive form. It won't overcome low conscientiousness and high agreeableness. It won't overcome an addictive personality. It won't overcome very poor physical health.

Stephen Hawking just died. He was white. That's not why he succeeded. He had a debilitating disease. That mattered more than his skin color. So why did he overcome that? Extreme intelligence and a good personality, along with a period of his life with decent health and decent attractiveness. His intelligence and his other personality traits kept him relevant and able to communicate while his body simply could not accomplish these tasks on its own.

Nothing in any of that concludes physical attractiveness is somehow a superior advantage to race in terms of social or economic advantages in countries with long histories of structural racial disadvantage. Or that racial advantages in countries such as ours are comparatively weak to all others, as you asserted earlier.

Frankly I am not even sure how one could ever come to a definitive conclusion on a question like that. Or establish a workable framework to definitively measure it?

This is a good example though of how your thinking process is so ridiculous.

Thank you! I feel like I’m in fucking crazy town here.