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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #54060 on: November 18, 2019, 09:13:36 PM »
The only way to access the site's Discord/rulebook was through deepthroat, sure.

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #54061 on: November 18, 2019, 09:17:18 PM »
He changed his twitter name? :wtf


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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #54063 on: November 18, 2019, 09:20:15 PM »

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #54064 on: November 18, 2019, 09:25:34 PM »
Would Hobbes be okay if that woman died from the attack?

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #54065 on: November 18, 2019, 09:34:07 PM »
These people make me sick. It's infuriating seeing people who think they are progressive shit on pacifism every chance they get. I wonder if they think domestic violence is okay if the guy was provoked?

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #54067 on: November 18, 2019, 09:40:57 PM »
BOOM: https://www.resetera.com/threads/we-need-to-talk-about-responding-to-trans-related-issues.151194/post-26470548
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User banned (permanent): Violating a safe space for minority staff members

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #54068 on: November 18, 2019, 09:41:58 PM »
OFFICIAL STAFF COMMUNICATION

This is being posted on behalf of the team:

Ketkat has been banned for violating a safe space for minorities in a private channel on a staff server, a channel that has very limited access and the expectation of privacy. We have investigated this thoroughly over the past few days, and that she did this is not in dispute. In fact, it confirms a pattern that had been suspected for a long time.

There is no question that Ketkat understood the importance of privacy in safe spaces, as she has championed this herself, a fact that makes this breach all the more frustrating and sad.

The entire staff was given an opportunity to weigh in on this case over the past few days. In light of the violation of their privacy, many expressed that they would not feel comfortable or safe volunteering here if such intrusions were tolerated. For this reason, the ban has been made permanent. This decision was not and could not have been made without careful consideration and large consensus.

Fighting transphobia is an entirely separate issue that we care about deeply. We spend a lot of time and energy on this and are always working to improve our moderation on this subject, including through sincere feedback from our community. This is something that will never change. We would like to thank the many of you in the trans community who have reached out to offer your understanding and support.

Certain individuals have been persistently trying to hijack this thread to fight a ban. Despite the pain it has caused our volunteers, we have been more than patient with the animosity in some of those posts. The decision is now final and it's time to move on. Not everyone is going to be happy with that, and that's okay. Excessive vitriol, however, will be moderated.

Please return to the important topic of trans awareness week.

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #54069 on: November 18, 2019, 09:44:30 PM »
 :beli

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #54070 on: November 18, 2019, 09:44:41 PM »
that ending line :dead

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #54071 on: November 18, 2019, 09:45:17 PM »
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You realize what you're doing with this statement, right?

You just told trans folx, in a thread specifically about listening to trans folx, what YOU think we should focus on.
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^ Trans Awareness Week casually hijacked into ERA Staff Awareness Week.

Fucking. Bullshit. 👎
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Why did the investigation not include talking to KetKat?
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Hijacking the thread? It's our fucking thread.
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" Please return to the important topic of trans awareness week."??

Lmfao go fuck yourselves.
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Did you ever even talk to Ketkat? Maybe get Ket's version of events?

you don't have to answer, I already know the answer is that you cowards didn't.
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Lol, so basically telling us to know our place. Nice message.

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #54072 on: November 18, 2019, 09:46:14 PM »
this website is tearing itself apart impressively fast

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« Reply #54073 on: November 18, 2019, 09:47:05 PM »
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I've heard directly from her that she was not approached by the staff or asked any questions (we share a Discord).
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Wow terrible response.
Quote from: Kitsunelaine
Not banning everyone who questions your decisions shouldn't need to come with an attempt to pat your own back.
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That last line sounds like fucking sarcasm.

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #54074 on: November 18, 2019, 09:48:16 PM »
PLEASE RETURN TO PRODUCTIVE TRANS AWARENESS WEEK DISCUSSION IMMEDIATELY

ATTENTION

YOU ARE ORDERED TO LEAVE THE BRONX

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #54075 on: November 18, 2019, 09:48:43 PM »
JE SUIS JOKER STAIRS

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #54076 on: November 18, 2019, 09:49:17 PM »
OFFICIAL STAFF COMMUNICATION

This is being posted on behalf of the team:

Ketkat has been banned for violating a safe space for minorities in a private channel on a staff server, a channel that has very limited access and the expectation of privacy. We have investigated this thoroughly over the past few days, and that she did this is not in dispute. In fact, it confirms a pattern that had been suspected for a long time.

There is no question that Ketkat understood the importance of privacy in safe spaces, as she has championed this herself, a fact that makes this breach all the more frustrating and sad.

The entire staff was given an opportunity to weigh in on this case over the past few days. In light of the violation of their privacy, many expressed that they would not feel comfortable or safe volunteering here if such intrusions were tolerated. For this reason, the ban has been made permanent. This decision was not and could not have been made without careful consideration and large consensus.

Fighting transphobia is an entirely separate issue that we care about deeply. We spend a lot of time and energy on this and are always working to improve our moderation on this subject, including through sincere feedback from our community. This is something that will never change. We would like to thank the many of you in the trans community who have reached out to offer your understanding and support.

Certain individuals have been persistently trying to hijack this thread to fight a ban. Despite the pain it has caused our volunteers, we have been more than patient with the animosity in some of those posts. The decision is now final and it's time to move on. Not everyone is going to be happy with that, and that's okay. Excessive vitriol, however, will be moderated.

Please return to the important topic of trans awareness week.

Death sentence from the whole jury apparently! Sends a real message.
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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #54077 on: November 18, 2019, 09:50:58 PM »
YOU ARE ORDERED TO LEAVE THE BRONX

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #54078 on: November 18, 2019, 09:53:34 PM »
so how did Morrigan draw the short straw

oh...

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #54079 on: November 18, 2019, 09:54:57 PM »
ROFL they've fucked themselves with this mod trans dictatorship.

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #54080 on: November 18, 2019, 09:55:05 PM »
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Was the evidence collected (that no one is allowed to see) found in the less than a half hour between her message being posted and her banning or in the days of silence while she sat banned with a banner that effectively has caused hate sites to renew their doxxing campaigns against me?

This is why I quit.

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #54081 on: November 18, 2019, 09:55:52 PM »
this website is tearing itself apart impressively fast

I thought it would go under within a year. Not being able to survive to year 3 is a triumph.

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #54082 on: November 18, 2019, 09:56:06 PM »
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out of all the awful responses, that's the most awful

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #54083 on: November 18, 2019, 09:57:08 PM »
If neoGAF is any indication, those trans nazis are gonna be replaced with actual nazis.

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« Reply #54084 on: November 18, 2019, 09:57:28 PM »
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out of all the awful responses, that's the most awful

It's pretty ironic considering that sabrina was banned from gaf for violating a safe space (if they're the poster i'm thinking of)

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #54085 on: November 18, 2019, 09:57:29 PM »
THERE WILL BE NEW TRANS POSTER HOUSING ON A SERVER IN NEW MEXICO

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #54086 on: November 18, 2019, 09:58:43 PM »
Has Morrigan been banned yet for dismissing concerns of transphobia?
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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #54087 on: November 18, 2019, 09:59:27 PM »
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Yeah, a ban 10 minutes after KetKat's post is a really quick investigation. Maybe a suspension while things got worked out would have been, you know, more reasonable and just?

Likewise, was the mod that loathes KetKat part of the decision to ban her?
what part of "duration pending" did you not understand FeistyBoots?

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #54088 on: November 18, 2019, 09:59:37 PM »
Has Morrigan been banned yet for dismissing concerns of transphobia?

With a history of histories of course, whatever the fuck that means

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« Reply #54089 on: November 18, 2019, 10:00:08 PM »
I also want to add to the staff message, from the perspective of a mod who's been here a while, and is somewhat detached from this issue while being part of the Discord channel in question.

As one of the mods who was a part of the initial mod team, I have seen mods come and go, often due to the pressure of doing this job. I have seen my fellow mods be doxxed. I have been privy to the stories of mods receiving threatening tweets on their private accounts, and even threatening phone calls at their jobs. And I want to stress that I'm not expecting sympathy here. We understood this was a risk when we signed up, and I also know that a lot of you understand all too well what it's like to be targeted in this way online. I'm only mentioning this to make the point that, when it comes to the privacy of our designated safe spaces, we value it as much as anybody else. Most of you are members of community Discords that have private channels that function in a similar way. And while I don't expect this to take away the anger and frustration of Ketkat being banned, I sincerely hope that it will allow some of you to consider how important this is to a lot of us.

The mod chat that was violated is not a harbor of the nefarious. It isn't a place where we retreat to say all the evil stuff that would be ban-worthy if any of you said it, or unveil our "true selves." This channel is where we go to share mundane aspects of our lives. Where we gripe about our jobs, share our frustrations about our partners (or...lack of partners), post pictures of our pets, and ask the dumbest fucking questions. It's a place where we go to question ourselves, or uplift each other - about any number of things. It is where go to share things that, while mundane, are personal, and private, and shared under a blanket of trust. We don't stop being Black, or Queer, or Trans, or Women, or NB when we become mods.

And again, many of you are members of community Discords that have private channels for similar purposes. The idea that somebody would violate that and dissect our lives is unforgivable to me. We are not the law. We are not elected officials. We are not paid with tax payer dollars. We are not paid at all. Our status as Resetera Mods does not extend to our real lives when we log off. We leave our computers, and our phones, and our tablets, to live the same lives that you do. We do not owe you our lives in order for you to trust us. We are not undeserving of privacy in order for you to trust us. If that's what it takes for you to trust us, then you weren't ever going to trust us at all.

I didn't really have a relationship with Ketkat, but I respected her. But when she crossed that line, she crossed the line. Banning Ket was not easy and it was not secretive. It was discussed, and in all of my time here, among a team more diverse than any group of people I've worked with in real life, I have never seen a decision with broader support.

We hope you continue to hold us accountable as mods. We hope more threads on trans issues will be created in the future, and we hope to continue to absorb your feedback to be better in addressing and handling trans issues. But Ketkat, unrelated to any of the above, is banned. And that is final.

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #54090 on: November 18, 2019, 10:01:28 PM »
Era Mods just reacting predictably to power.

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #54091 on: November 18, 2019, 10:02:21 PM »
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We hope you continue to hold us accountable as mods.

No worries, chief.
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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #54092 on: November 18, 2019, 10:03:11 PM »
Quote from: FeistyBoots
This isn't about you.

Did the staff forget the entire thing about listening to trans voices and maybe for once not centering things on yourselves?
Quote from: sabrina
Your lives aren't being dissected. Stop being so disingenuous. It's not dissection to call out blatant bigotry that was available for a lot of people to see.

Get the fuck over yourselves. All anyone wanted was for ResetEra to crack down on transphobia, not least by removing any mods with problematic pasts. But instead the "leadership" here has shown their collective asses and doubled down on mistakes.
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Once again, in the Trans Awareness Week thread. "We ERA staff people have it so hard!"

You guys are doing this on purpose, aren't you?

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #54093 on: November 18, 2019, 10:03:28 PM »
Just noticed Trans Awareness Week ends tomorrow  :heh

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #54094 on: November 18, 2019, 10:04:35 PM »
WUT ABOUT MOD HISTORY MONTH?!

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #54095 on: November 18, 2019, 10:04:59 PM »
PLEASE RETURN TO THE IMPORTANT TOPIC OF TRANS AWARENESS WEEK AFTER EACH MODERATOR POST

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #54096 on: November 18, 2019, 10:06:21 PM »
Quote from: BDS
Can you address my question about the diversity of the admin staff
NO, NOW LEAVE THE BRONX

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #54097 on: November 18, 2019, 10:07:59 PM »
They could solve all of this if they just banned the ten or twenty people who keep making everything a problem.
Shame there won't be a convenient thread in which all of these posters are attacking the staff and modwhining and misrepresenting moderator actions and have histories of histories.

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #54098 on: November 18, 2019, 10:08:48 PM »
Question now is whether they lock/reboot the Trans Awareness Thread. Lord knows, if it was ANY other thread with posts like that it in there, its productivity score from FF would be in the gutter.

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #54099 on: November 18, 2019, 10:09:33 PM »
If they insisted on maintaining the community, they would’ve had to have unbanned Ket by now. They’re like 2 PR oopsies too far now.
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« Reply #54100 on: November 18, 2019, 10:10:34 PM »
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Doing what? Being transparent?

You asked for it, so I ask you: why is it ok for Kwt to hack our chats to get private information?

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« Reply #54101 on: November 18, 2019, 10:12:12 PM »
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Doing what? Being transparent?

You asked for it, so I ask you: why is it ok for Kwt to hack our chats to get private information?

Now that's some fire right there. Some winning Royalan Deescalating Tactics there.

 :phil :win :preach

Realtime re-enactment of that post...


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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #54102 on: November 18, 2019, 10:12:48 PM »
I want to know more about this safe space discord for mods. What are the chances it was considered a “safe space” before this episode? A safe space in a safe space... deep safe space.
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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #54103 on: November 18, 2019, 10:13:09 PM »
all this hacking and doxxing going on, no wonder it's not safe

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #54104 on: November 18, 2019, 10:13:42 PM »
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Can you address my question about the diversity of the admin staff
The admin team is fairly diverse, and includes LGBTQ people and PoCs, so please don't make assumptions. Admins also prioritize minority staff for those topics, and have plans to promote more minority admins in the near future.

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #54105 on: November 18, 2019, 10:15:46 PM »
As the Mod Admiral, I wish to express that I was not aware of any of these chats, I had no idea the moderators were doing any of this or discussing anything outside of official channels.

Except for the Feedback Weekend™ thread which was moved to the moderator forum so that it could be better analyzed of course.

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #54106 on: November 18, 2019, 10:16:09 PM »
Oh, so KitKat knew the cyber like Baron Trump

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #54107 on: November 18, 2019, 10:16:46 PM »
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Produce the receipts. Put up or shut up, instead of libeling one of the most brightly-shining beacons on this site.

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #54108 on: November 18, 2019, 10:17:22 PM »
As the Mod Admiral, I wish to express that I was not aware of any of these chats, I had no idea the moderators were doing any of this or discussing anything outside of official channels.

Except for the Feedback Weekend™ thread which was moved to the moderator forum so that it could be better analyzed of course.

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #54109 on: November 18, 2019, 10:17:56 PM »
I want to know more about this safe space discord for mods. What are the chances it was considered a “safe space” before this episode? A safe space in a safe space... deep safe space.

Is this like an Amir0x and Opiate safe space?  :doge
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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #54110 on: November 18, 2019, 10:18:18 PM »
The bore's admin team is fairly diverse. There's a dog, a fat guy, and uh, whatever bork is.

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #54111 on: November 18, 2019, 10:21:26 PM »
The bore's admin team is fairly diverse. There's a dog, a fat guy, and uh, whatever bork is.

Hey, only one cis white guy. 33% compared to ERA, Bore looks like Detroit...

Though Mos Eisley would be more accurate, I guess.

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« Reply #54112 on: November 18, 2019, 10:21:55 PM »
Now that's some fire right there. Some winning Royalan Deescalating Tactics there.
But wait, there's more:


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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #54113 on: November 18, 2019, 10:22:06 PM »
Can we end the thread here? At a relatively good number?

666 was our peak thread, but all these ones that blow past 1000 are fucking lame.

Shorter seasons with more identity pl0x

Why don't you shut the fuck up and go back to the very important topic of trans awareness week you little bitch  :steiner

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #54114 on: November 18, 2019, 10:23:30 PM »
Editing this out to protect private information.

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« Reply #54115 on: November 18, 2019, 10:27:48 PM »
put professor jiggly in the op you cowards :steiner

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #54116 on: November 18, 2019, 10:28:17 PM »

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #54117 on: November 18, 2019, 10:28:24 PM »
There is apparently an acephobic staff member who is getting away with being trash and all we get is being told to shut up and move on from cis mods.
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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #54118 on: November 18, 2019, 10:29:04 PM »
put professor jiggly in the op you cowards :steiner

Is that what we're calling Rah's dick? :thinking

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« Reply #54119 on: November 18, 2019, 10:29:15 PM »
Oh shit, have they lost The Kree:

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This trans awareness thread is going to be locked soon because the site staff is upset about vague nameless accusations of bigoted attitudes.

This looks bad.

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