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Pissy F Benny

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #48660 on: September 01, 2021, 09:21:40 AM »
they just want to do the twitter outrage cycle but on a message board, not have actual discussions about things :trumps
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #48661 on: September 01, 2021, 09:22:06 AM »
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The worst part is how black artists are cajoled into this corral of creative stagnancy. I fear that if my career goals line up, I'll still be forced by my bosses to only make pictures pertaining to blackness. What about the recent Afghan situation? What about the War on Terror? What about the ripple effects that has on views on military? Or Islam/Muslims? I'm really interested in the sociology of what makes us human and the webs that we are connected to, and too often it feels like this is an attitude only afforded by non-black artists. 

This could be such an interesting discussion..and the OP has really insightful thoughts..but Nepenthe has to make sure the only engagement on this whack ass site is "Fuck offff".

Well of course. Given that the only notable thing about her is how the color of her skin subjects her to oppression, she’s going to guard that like Cereberus at the gates. And not the cute Hades version either.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #48662 on: September 01, 2021, 09:26:26 AM »
It's amazing to me that her reason for locking it is basically "That people thought your take is interesting shows that this is the wrong place to have this discussion"

Also she basically says that this is a discussion that should only happen amongst black people but then also bans him for anti-black racism...
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Pissy F Benny

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #48663 on: September 01, 2021, 09:29:18 AM »
this is a furry, who is in love with a fictional character, who thinks the height of video game story telling is need for speed heats shitty storyline, just because the police are corrupt and dicks :aweshum
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #48664 on: September 01, 2021, 09:39:22 AM »
It's amazing to me that her reason for locking it is basically "That people thought your take is interesting shows that this is the wrong place to have this discussion"

Also she basically says that this is a discussion that should only happen amongst black people but then also bans him for anti-black racism...
Nepenthe also doesn't understand the optics of telling a black person what to think and say. In this case, a black person with very strange views.

That comes off as paternalistic. The OP had some crazy views--I agree.  But if white people are told to shut up about anything black related, why would Nep and Slayven think that white posters would push back? They've been told it's not something they should participate in.

Clearly, that OP does have issues. That is true.  But why does Nep think it's on white poster to police what a black person thinks? Even if it is problematic. Especially since the narrative is that white people are not allowed to tell black people what to think.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #48665 on: September 01, 2021, 09:40:38 AM »
Nepenthe is like Carlton Banks joined the Black Panthers.
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« Reply #48666 on: September 01, 2021, 09:45:32 AM »
It's amazing to me that her reason for locking it is basically "That people thought your take is interesting shows that this is the wrong place to have this discussion"

Also she basically says that this is a discussion that should only happen amongst black people but then also bans him for anti-black racism...
Nepenthe also doesn't understand the optics of telling a black person what to think and say. In this case, a black person with very strange views.

That comes off as paternalistic. The OP had some crazy views--I agree.  But if white people are told to shut up about anything black related, why would Nep and Slayven think that white poster would push back? They've been told it's not something they should participate in.

Clearly, that OP does have issues. That is true.  But why does Nep think it's on white poster to police what a black person thinks? Even if it is problematic. Especially since the narrative is that white people are not allowed to tell black people what to think.

I don't think it was crazy.  OP was complaining that all the art from his inner circle of black artists is inward-facing and identarian instead of outward-facing and he laid out his concerns with that - specifically ones he fears about his own career.  Seems like a worthwhile discussion.   Maybe he's right, maybe he's wrong, maybe he has a perception bias, and that could've been revealed to him within the conversation.  It would have been interesting, at least.  To just wholesale shut down conversation because Nepenthe is the most sensitive person on earth is really just obnoxious.  They could not have picked a worse forum mod.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #48667 on: September 01, 2021, 09:50:50 AM »
It's amazing to me that her reason for locking it is basically "That people thought your take is interesting shows that this is the wrong place to have this discussion"

Also she basically says that this is a discussion that should only happen amongst black people but then also bans him for anti-black racism...
Nepenthe also doesn't understand the optics of telling a black person what to think and say. In this case, a black person with very strange views.

That comes off as paternalistic. The OP had some crazy views--I agree.  But if white people are told to shut up about anything black related, why would Nep and Slayven think that white poster would push back? They've been told it's not something they should participate in.

Clearly, that OP does have issues. That is true.  But why does Nep think it's on white poster to police what a black person thinks? Even if it is problematic. Especially since the narrative is that white people are not allowed to tell black people what to think.

I don't think it was crazy.  OP was complaining that all the art from his inner circle of black artists is inward-facing and identarian instead of outward-facing and he laid out his concerns with that - specifically ones he fears about his own career.  Seems like a worthwhile discussion.   Maybe he's right, maybe he's wrong, maybe he has a perception bias, and that could've been revealed to him within the conversation.  It would have been interesting, at least.  To just wholesale shut down conversation because Nepenthe is the most sensitive person on earth is really just obnoxious.  They could not have picked a worse forum mod.

Some of the OP's sentences came off as "all black people" instead of his group.  It could've been a decent discussion if he didn't use blanket statements.

Nep is also an Admin, not just a mod.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #48668 on: September 01, 2021, 10:01:40 AM »
It's amazing to me that her reason for locking it is basically "That people thought your take is interesting shows that this is the wrong place to have this discussion"

Also she basically says that this is a discussion that should only happen amongst black people but then also bans him for anti-black racism...
Nepenthe also doesn't understand the optics of telling a black person what to think and say. In this case, a black person with very strange views.

That comes off as paternalistic. The OP had some crazy views--I agree.  But if white people are told to shut up about anything black related, why would Nep and Slayven think that white poster would push back? They've been told it's not something they should participate in.

Clearly, that OP does have issues. That is true.  But why does Nep think it's on white poster to police what a black person thinks? Even if it is problematic. Especially since the narrative is that white people are not allowed to tell black people what to think.

I don't think it was crazy.  OP was complaining that all the art from his inner circle of black artists is inward-facing and identarian instead of outward-facing and he laid out his concerns with that - specifically ones he fears about his own career.  Seems like a worthwhile discussion.   Maybe he's right, maybe he's wrong, maybe he has a perception bias, and that could've been revealed to him within the conversation.  It would have been interesting, at least.  To just wholesale shut down conversation because Nepenthe is the most sensitive person on earth is really just obnoxious.  They could not have picked a worse forum mod.

Some of the OP's sentences came off as "all black people" instead of his group.  It could've been a decent discussion if he didn't use blanket statements.

Nep is also an Admin, not just a mod.

Yeah, that's a good point.  Definitely would be another good talking point for the thread, but that's an impossible discussion to have on that site.  I don't have any of these experiences, so I'd definitely find it interesting to hear from black artists if they'd only allow the convo.  I'm sure users would even give light to and point out black artists that counter the OP's view, and maybe open his eyes.  That would be something.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #48669 on: September 01, 2021, 10:05:13 AM »
It's amazing to me that her reason for locking it is basically "That people thought your take is interesting shows that this is the wrong place to have this discussion"

Also she basically says that this is a discussion that should only happen amongst black people but then also bans him for anti-black racism...
Nepenthe also doesn't understand the optics of telling a black person what to think and say. In this case, a black person with very strange views.

That comes off as paternalistic. The OP had some crazy views--I agree.  But if white people are told to shut up about anything black related, why would Nep and Slayven think that white poster would push back? They've been told it's not something they should participate in.

Clearly, that OP does have issues. That is true.  But why does Nep think it's on white poster to police what a black person thinks? Even if it is problematic. Especially since the narrative is that white people are not allowed to tell black people what to think.

I don't think it was crazy.  OP was complaining that all the art from his inner circle of black artists is inward-facing and identarian instead of outward-facing and he laid out his concerns with that - specifically ones he fears about his own career.  Seems like a worthwhile discussion.   Maybe he's right, maybe he's wrong, maybe he has a perception bias, and that could've been revealed to him within the conversation.  It would have been interesting, at least.  To just wholesale shut down conversation because Nepenthe is the most sensitive person on earth is really just obnoxious.  They could not have picked a worse forum mod.

Some of the OP's sentences came off as "all black people" instead of his group.  It could've been a decent discussion if he didn't use blanket statements.

Nep is also an Admin, not just a mod.

Yeah, that's a good point.  Definitely would be another good talking point for the thread, but that's an impossible discussion to have on that site.  I don't have any of these experiences, so I'd definitely find it interesting to hear from black artists if they'd only allow the convo.  I'm sure users would even give light to and point out black artists that counter the OP's view, and maybe open his eyes.  That would be something.

Yeah, there’s a big part of ERA that just shy’s away from discussion.  That’s why there’s never really growth there.  The posting populace remains in arrested development.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #48670 on: September 01, 2021, 10:09:14 AM »
Some of the OP's sentences came off as "all black people" instead of his group.  It could've been a decent discussion if he didn't use blanket statements.

Nep is also an Admin, not just a mod.
Eh, that place is quick to point out that blanket generalisations are OK because if it doesn’t describe you, it isn’t talking about you. Normally I would agree with your point, but those cats set the rules, so I want to see them live by them.

Alternatively, they could stop making stupid generalisations about other groups, but we all know that ain’t happening.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #48671 on: September 01, 2021, 10:10:43 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/went-on-a-first-date-agreed-to-split-the-check-later-got-ghosted.479488/

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I gotta say, I’m pretty sure she ghosted me on the bill.

Took them 48 hours to figure out they paid for everything....when they paid for everything.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #48672 on: September 01, 2021, 10:16:34 AM »
Some of the OP's sentences came off as "all black people" instead of his group.  It could've been a decent discussion if he didn't use blanket statements.

Eh, this shit is why there's barely any proper discussions happening anymore nowadays. Instead of engaging with the points being brought up people are just looking for things to get offended about.

If it came across that way, refute it. Show they guy that his way of thinking is wrong and he's too stuck in his own bubble. Maybe he'd have grown as a person after the thread.

Nah, just shut it down because I didn't like the way they said it.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #48673 on: September 01, 2021, 10:22:24 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/roe-v-wade-technically-planned-parenthood-v-casey-effectively-overturned-in-texas.480031/post-72452956

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At least the Taliban are pretending they are becoming more accepting of women.

In America it is a race to the bottom and you get celebrated for being the most awful guy in the room.

"Correction, you do not, in fact, have to hand it to them".

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« Reply #48674 on: September 01, 2021, 10:27:30 AM »
Yes, American women are treated on the same level as women having to deal with the fucking Taliban every day of their lives. Spot on.

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« Reply #48675 on: September 01, 2021, 10:32:56 AM »
Lmao what bubble? I'm not in a bubble. It's my job as a black artist to know black artists and black art. Also, as a black person I have lived my entire life observing this.

Who is the most famous black director? Spike Lee? His entire career is nothing but about blackness  as a topic. Ever since Inside Man he regurgitates more stories about blackness. Is blackness important? Absolutely. But is that all there is?

Does black art exist outside of the confines of blackness? Sure. But it's a small minority of work.

Look at the current crop of film black directors coming up. Jordan Peele. Regina King. What do their films talk about? Blackness. Blackness is boring when it's all you have to articulate. I was going to say before the thread was locked that focusing stories solely on black pain benefits nobody but white people. These days black visual media is full of black pain porn. Lovecraft Country. Them;etc. are just reminders of black people's place in society. It's a way for white people to treat black people like animals that need help rather than expressing a full spectrum of human experience which further creates a victim mentality in black people.

One thing I'll compliment Peele for is that unlike the others he appears to be smart. The film Us doesn't bring up the topic of blackness. Frankly, I almost no longer care about the topic. Instead, it's a horror film that stars a nearly all black cast. Do what white people do and treat black as normal by making films that star black people without bringing up the fact they're black. More Love and Basketball less Lovecraft Country.

When is a black film director going to make films like Parasite that have things to say about society without bringing up the topic of blackness? I challenge them to do this.
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #48676 on: September 01, 2021, 10:36:50 AM »



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« Reply #48677 on: September 01, 2021, 10:41:48 AM »
Nepenthe also doesn't understand the optics of telling a black person what to think and say. In this case, a black person with very strange views.

That comes off as paternalistic. The OP had some crazy views--I agree.  But if white people are told to shut up about anything black related, why would Nep and Slayven think that white posters would push back? They've been told it's not something they should participate in.

This is honestly one of the most unsettling things around the culture Era has cultivated to me--there is only one acceptable way to be a part of any marginalized group. People not in the group shouldn't talk about it, at all, and just listen to people in that group. But if your opinions don't align with Era's sanctioned view of what you should think/feel as a member of that group, you are extremely discouraged from presenting an alternate viewpoint because reasons.

I get why they need it--it's easier to do their ranking-of-grievances when trying to figure out how to navigate situations where different marginalized groups come in conflict if you can boil each group down to just 1 thing--but it effectively creates situations where you can't do anything but reinforce whatever the current admin-approved take on things.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #48678 on: September 01, 2021, 10:51:28 AM »
I don't believe that Incel has ever gone on a date. Morrigan may have though.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #48679 on: September 01, 2021, 10:56:55 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/went-on-a-first-date-agreed-to-split-the-check-later-got-ghosted.479488/page-13#post-72453730

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Some of y’all will stay “progressive” and single for the rest of your lives. Every game has rules - that’s life. Many folks here understand that and some don’t.


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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #48680 on: September 01, 2021, 11:03:59 AM »
Morrigan definitely didnt like that reply.

Pissy F Benny

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #48681 on: September 01, 2021, 11:07:42 AM »
bmw eh? :success
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #48682 on: September 01, 2021, 11:20:15 AM »
When is a black film director going to make films like Parasite that have things to say about society without bringing up the topic of blackness? I challenge them to do this.

Steve McQueen did some of those with Shame and Hunger.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #48683 on: September 01, 2021, 11:26:39 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-atlantics-anne-abblebaum-cancel-culture-is-destroying-democracy.480208/

Boy howdy, the plate is full today. Time to dig up some of Anne's old tweets and cancel deplatform her.

Oh, and if anyone from Era reads this, here's one to wring your hands over: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/16/uk-academic-sues-university-losing-role-critical-race-theory-row-leeds-beckett

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Who has been canceled?


White people love fearing the thought they might actually be called out on something
Oop, there's one already. Read my second link, Slay ;)

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #48684 on: September 01, 2021, 11:35:15 AM »


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« Reply #48685 on: September 01, 2021, 11:44:13 AM »
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Just remember how long it took Disney to fire that dumbass Gina Carano. This situation really fucking sucks, because Black Panther needs to continue to do well as a movie franchise but not by highlighting such a dangerous actor.
What Letitia tweeted is nothing compared to the bile Carano spewed over and over again on a regular basis.

And again I will say there are perfectly good, decent people that have concerns, doubts, anxiety of the vaccines and it doesn't make them shitty people. It means they might be poorly educated and need someone to explain through their doubts.
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Just because someone is famous it doesn't mean they're smart, and just because someone has concerns it doesn't mean they're malicious. Stop viewing everything as black and white, us and them.
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« Reply #48686 on: September 01, 2021, 11:51:07 AM »
“Any examples”? Try every thread where someone says something you don’t agree with  :lol

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« Reply #48687 on: September 01, 2021, 11:55:26 AM »
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Era meta-commentary:

Fuck Kanye, he has nothing good to add to society. We should adopt authoritarian tactics and pretend he does not exist on Era, that’ll surely cut off his main stream of income because the world will stop buying albums and Yeezys so he’ll pay for the bad things he’s done. Also, IDGAF if he’s mentally ill, just get him off of my screen. If you acknowledge mental illness, that only means your using it as an excuse, and it’s better to just ignore it. No, I will not use ignore thread features because I think restricting the amount of topics/perspectives/nuance we have on topics anyone can discuss on this platform is how we solve problems. If you talk about Kanye, that means you support every single thing he has done and I’m just going to assume your sending direct deposits to Kanye because you love him so much. I am, of course, above this because I am made of 100% pure morality and would not be caught dead engaging with anything morally ambiguous or complicated. No, you cannot purity test me, but I will purity test you. If you acknowledge anything good he could possibly do, that means your an enabler because you should be dehumanizing him instead.

Actual Kanye discussion on Era:

Damn this song about his marriage collapsing is really emotional. I can’t imagine what he’s going through but I can feel it and has me thinking. He put DaBaby on a song? We all agree that’s a bad look, he shouldn’t be doing that, he knows better and is irresponsibly grifting off of controversy, which is harmful to the LGBTQ+ community. This is difficult and hypocritical, given that Kanye broke down barriers with his outwardly supportive of gay people earlier in his career and helped enable their careers. He should know better, but is this due to unresolved trauma, or is it narcissism/attention-seeking, or does it have to do with his complex relationship with Christianity across his career? It’s probably all of the above, let’s discuss all the evidence related to each. How can we reconcile such a conflicting figure, and how does this mean we should treat celebrities? How can we reinforce the positive things they do while reprimanding them for the bad? Kanye won’t stop existing, so what can we do about it?

This is also why Hip-Hop-Era discussions are so much better, because the Etcetera shitposters who have no meaningful ideas to contribute are quarantined in OT where they can virtue-signal and stereotype to one another about what they think Kanye discussion is like without taking a single glance at the thing they’re outraged about.

Thread after thread it’s all about “can’t believe the stans are defending them” while in the thread EVERYONE is condemning him. KTT collapsed under the weight of his Trump bullshit. Many stans outright stopped listening to his music in protest or won’t give him a dime for it anymore.

No wonder they want all discussion gone if it threatens to expose they’re just posturing about stuff they don’t want to take 10 seconds to verify. God forbid inflammatory drive-by reactions ever get moderated against though, right?
Now this is what you call a nuanced discussion that most people on Era are on too high of a horse to engage with. Look it’s okay to speak out against the stuff Kanye does and says and the people he associates with, but if you want to turn to virtue signalling just to prove how much of a better person you are, sorry, drop the ego and and get off of Era and get out in the real world and make a difference a and be the change you’d like to see in the world. In the real world, you can’t block out and cancel people/topics you disagree with, you have to engage with them or just walk away and leave it at that. But regardless, people you disagree with will still be around and you’ll still run into them whether it be at a grocery store or in a work environment. It’s okay to have discussion on topics that are uncomfortable and I’m saying all this as a queer person who was once also trying to virtue signal to everyone around me about how morally good I am by calling out every little thing that bothered or triggered me. But I grew up and matured and see now that life is not as black and white or simple as we’d like to imagine. I promise you life is far more interesting and rewarding being pushed outside your own comfort zone and exploring beyond that binary perspective of “good vs bad”, “light vs dark” on everything.
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« Reply #48688 on: September 01, 2021, 11:55:48 AM »
When is a black film director going to make films like Parasite that have things to say about society without bringing up the topic of blackness? I challenge them to do this.

Steve McQueen did some of those with Shame and Hunger.

I notice that Black Britons are afforded this type of creativity more than Americans or are more willing to go after it. I'm a fan. So they definitely exist, but within a limited stratum within black America.

I think in the past black people in America were more willing to transplant our culture in more creative ways without directly referencing blackness itself. For a random answer let's take a spurious example The Last Dragon: it doesn't speak to blackness and yet is blackness defined. It just is. it does not drown itself in the politics of being black. It's just a kung fu martial arts cast that mostly features black people.
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #48689 on: September 01, 2021, 11:56:29 AM »
It's amazing to me that her reason for locking it is basically "That people thought your take is interesting shows that this is the wrong place to have this discussion"

Also she basically says that this is a discussion that should only happen amongst black people but then also bans him for anti-black racism...
Nepenthe also doesn't understand the optics of telling a black person what to think and say. In this case, a black person with very strange views.

That comes off as paternalistic. The OP had some crazy views--I agree.  But if white people are told to shut up about anything black related, why would Nep and Slayven think that white poster would push back? They've been told it's not something they should participate in.

Clearly, that OP does have issues. That is true.  But why does Nep think it's on white poster to police what a black person thinks? Even if it is problematic. Especially since the narrative is that white people are not allowed to tell black people what to think.

I don't think it was crazy.  OP was complaining that all the art from his inner circle of black artists is inward-facing and identarian instead of outward-facing and he laid out his concerns with that - specifically ones he fears about his own career.  Seems like a worthwhile discussion.   Maybe he's right, maybe he's wrong, maybe he has a perception bias, and that could've been revealed to him within the conversation.  It would have been interesting, at least.  To just wholesale shut down conversation because Nepenthe is the most sensitive person on earth is really just obnoxious.  They could not have picked a worse forum mod.

also shutting it down so heavy handedly just leads the OP becoming more confident that they're correct, as well as observers getting an inkling that there might be a grain of truth there

if it's truly wrong, it wouldn't survive the crucible of actual debate and conversation

now? you know it's right just because you can't talk about it



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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #48690 on: September 01, 2021, 12:04:34 PM »
It's amazing to me that her reason for locking it is basically "That people thought your take is interesting shows that this is the wrong place to have this discussion"

Also she basically says that this is a discussion that should only happen amongst black people but then also bans him for anti-black racism...
Nepenthe also doesn't understand the optics of telling a black person what to think and say. In this case, a black person with very strange views.

That comes off as paternalistic. The OP had some crazy views--I agree.  But if white people are told to shut up about anything black related, why would Nep and Slayven think that white poster would push back? They've been told it's not something they should participate in.

Clearly, that OP does have issues. That is true.  But why does Nep think it's on white poster to police what a black person thinks? Even if it is problematic. Especially since the narrative is that white people are not allowed to tell black people what to think.

I don't think it was crazy.  OP was complaining that all the art from his inner circle of black artists is inward-facing and identarian instead of outward-facing and he laid out his concerns with that - specifically ones he fears about his own career.  Seems like a worthwhile discussion.   Maybe he's right, maybe he's wrong, maybe he has a perception bias, and that could've been revealed to him within the conversation.  It would have been interesting, at least.  To just wholesale shut down conversation because Nepenthe is the most sensitive person on earth is really just obnoxious.  They could not have picked a worse forum mod.

also shutting it down so heavy handedly just leads the OP becoming more confident that they're correct, as well as observers getting an inkling that there might be a grain of truth there

if it's truly wrong, it wouldn't survive the crucible of actual debate and conversation

now? you know it's right just because you can't talk about it

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I was talking to PD about this months ago and we both came to the conclusion that "blackness" whatever that is, is just a fashion statement now.

I'm now convinced blackness within black art at this era at least is a grift. It's a way to get paid.
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #48691 on: September 01, 2021, 12:10:42 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/pc-gamer-epic-has-sunk-500m-into-the-epic-games-store-doesnt-expect-to-make-a-profit-until-2027.468012/page-13#post-71171874

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Calling out the guy that literally spoke for us, then said "I don't speak for devs because they have no fucking clue", about their very jobs, is "absolutely disgusting"? What the fuck!?

I'm done here; putting this thread and every single one of you armchair napkin mathematicians on ignore. Keep the circlejerk defending of your favorite megacorporation and taking over devs over stuff you have only hearsay experience about, then wonder why "devs aren't more open".
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What an odd post to be perma’d over, especially when so many people didn’t seem to have an issue with it. I’ve seen far worse in this forum get punished much less but I guess we shouldn’t poke fun at the Gamers.
This forum's mods are ridiculously, and I mean ridiculously, pro-Steam, in ways that completely lopside the moderation in any thread that even remotely includes Steam. There was some user claiming that devs are fine with the Steam cut; then, when proven wrong through a poll stating the opposite, said (and I quote) "I do not speak for devs because they have no fucking idea". This sort of dev-bashing would be an easy ban in literally any other context; but because it's in support of Steam, the post didn't even get a warning. Dev voices and opinions calling out for a reduction of Steam's cut or criticising Steam in any way are consistently and systematically ridiculed and insulted (even though many of the most prominent pro-developer figures in the industry, like Rami Ismail, constantly raise it). "If you don't like Steam, sell it on your website" is a recurrent cop-out that rarely gets called out, let alone moderated.

Frankly PC-moderating mods need to take a long, hard look at their pro-Steam bias and realize they're engaging in the very same platform wars that are explicitly against the TOS, except they of course wield a disproportionate amount of power that empowers aggressive pro-Steam users to get exemptions from the TOS, while intimidating people with any criticism of Steam (or straight up banning them for making even the most innocent of jokes), making any semblance of "civil discourse" impossible, let alone "triumphant". There can't be any discourse when the rules clearly only apply to one side.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #48692 on: September 01, 2021, 12:16:25 PM »
either benji went out of his way to reproduce the links in the quoted post, or he has a secret era account and he was able to hit "reply" to copy paste the message as originally formatted
 :thinking
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #48693 on: September 01, 2021, 12:16:37 PM »
I'm guessing this guy's game wasn't a hot seller on the Steam marketplace. 

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #48694 on: September 01, 2021, 12:20:42 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/surprised-by-unexpected-racist-stereotypes-and-depictions-in-psychonauts-2-late-game-level-spoilers.479416/page-3#post-72398593

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Stop overthinking stuffs, as an Asian this is annoying
I'm not Asian at all but I agree with you. My wife is Asian however and I know that she would be scratching her head at some of the replies here.

Good thread:
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If she was from present day Hong Kong and cared about democracy then i think she'd be right to do so

Edit: In general i agree with you that this games imagery is coming across as racist, I just can't bring myself to defend modern china as an institution.
User Banned (Duration Pending Admin Review): Dismissing concerns of racism.

I'm gonna be honest, this seems like a "Can we be offended by this somehow?" situation to me.
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Oh brother this feels like somebody getting offended on someone's behalf.

I hope one day we can move past labelling anything as racist cause good lord even for the most simplest stuff this heavy word gets thrown around lately.
User banned (duration tbd by admin review): Justifying racist stereotypes as "accurate" over multiple posts. Account in junior phase.

But aren't countefeit goods coming in large part from Asia?

Because if I have to represents some "Mafia" character I would make it Italian, because Mafia came from there.
So maybe it's not really about being racist (did they offend the culture?) but trying to connect the game fiction with some kind of connection to the world's present-time problems?

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No, this is what happens on Era whenever a minority group comes out and tells people to chill when something is being blown out of proportion regarding their own race / ethnicity. Whenever a minority tries to give a dissenting opinion or their own perspective, they're immediately shot down by the 'White Allies" who know better.
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"I don't care so you shouldn't care!"

This thread is fucking gross. No wonder lots of prominent Asian members left this site.
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Plus, there are also bad actors claiming they're x or y and it doesn't bother them so they can shut down the argument.
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Also Asian, and yes I agree with this. This is supposed to be offensive?

The amount of dismissiveness coming from Asians in this thread.

Yes it might not be offensive to you, but please remember that not every Asian is the same and not everyone has the same experiences. Yes there may be Asians who have never faced such issues but there are certainly Asians who live in places were there is heavy stereotyping and/or subtle racism. Just because you do not face these issues does not mean they do not exist for other disaspora where evidently a number of members also agree with OP and find issues with the game.
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Thank you for the awareness about this. So there really isn't any positive depictions about Asians or Asian culture in the game? Being a South Asian, I'm used to expecting only negative depictions, racism, or victimising portrayals of my culture or home country, so having only one form of representation can be debilitating. Like is this all we are to you?

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #48695 on: September 01, 2021, 12:33:57 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/surprised-by-unexpected-racist-stereotypes-and-depictions-in-psychonauts-2-late-game-level-spoilers.479416/page-3#post-72398593

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Stop overthinking stuffs, as an Asian this is annoying
I'm not Asian at all but I agree with you. My wife is Asian however and I know that she would be scratching her head at some of the replies here.

Good thread:
User Banned (1 Month): Dismissive Commentary Around Racism; Off-Topic Whataboutism

If she was from present day Hong Kong and cared about democracy then i think she'd be right to do so

Edit: In general i agree with you that this games imagery is coming across as racist, I just can't bring myself to defend modern china as an institution.
User Banned (Duration Pending Admin Review): Dismissing concerns of racism.

I'm gonna be honest, this seems like a "Can we be offended by this somehow?" situation to me.
User Banned (Permanent): Dismissive and Antagonistic Drive-By; Dismissing Concerns of Racism. Numerous Recent Infractions.

Oh brother this feels like somebody getting offended on someone's behalf.

I hope one day we can move past labelling anything as racist cause good lord even for the most simplest stuff this heavy word gets thrown around lately.
User banned (duration tbd by admin review): Justifying racist stereotypes as "accurate" over multiple posts. Account in junior phase.

But aren't countefeit goods coming in large part from Asia?

Because if I have to represents some "Mafia" character I would make it Italian, because Mafia came from there.
So maybe it's not really about being racist (did they offend the culture?) but trying to connect the game fiction with some kind of connection to the world's present-time problems?

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No, this is what happens on Era whenever a minority group comes out and tells people to chill when something is being blown out of proportion regarding their own race / ethnicity. Whenever a minority tries to give a dissenting opinion or their own perspective, they're immediately shot down by the 'White Allies" who know better.
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"I don't care so you shouldn't care!"

This thread is fucking gross. No wonder lots of prominent Asian members left this site.
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Plus, there are also bad actors claiming they're x or y and it doesn't bother them so they can shut down the argument.
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Also internalized racism among minority groups is a real thing.
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Also Asian, and yes I agree with this. This is supposed to be offensive?

The amount of dismissiveness coming from Asians in this thread.

Yes it might not be offensive to you, but please remember that not every Asian is the same and not everyone has the same experiences. Yes there may be Asians who have never faced such issues but there are certainly Asians who live in places were there is heavy stereotyping and/or subtle racism. Just because you do not face these issues does not mean they do not exist for other disaspora where evidently a number of members also agree with OP and find issues with the game.
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Thank you for the awareness about this. So there really isn't any positive depictions about Asians or Asian culture in the game? Being a South Asian, I'm used to expecting only negative depictions, racism, or victimising portrayals of my culture or home country, so having only one form of representation can be debilitating. Like is this all we are to you?


Videogames sure are fun.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #48696 on: September 01, 2021, 12:34:57 PM »
How do I get my posts on Reset deleted?

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #48697 on: September 01, 2021, 12:39:23 PM »
How do I get my posts on Reset deleted?



Befriend a mod.

They don't respond to account deletion requests otherwise.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #48698 on: September 01, 2021, 12:42:13 PM »
How do I get my posts on Reset deleted?

I don't think they'll delete it, at best they would change you to deleted user 34467918, but all the posts would still be under that name so if anyone knew it was you they could still look into the history of deleted user 34467918
:goty
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #48699 on: September 01, 2021, 12:43:05 PM »
ReeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

« Last Edit: September 01, 2021, 12:47:44 PM by Cindi Mayweather »
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #48700 on: September 01, 2021, 12:46:08 PM »
I'm guessing this guy's game wasn't a hot seller on the Steam marketplace. 
He has yet to release his first title, Divinoids.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #48701 on: September 01, 2021, 01:39:30 PM »
Sure there may be times people don't get it right but that is the vast, vast minority of the time. I just don't think the very small amount of edge cases merits some critical examination of accountability culture as a whole, there are going to be outliers with everything and to me authors who hone in on those are missing the forest for the trees and it's irresponsible to hold up the very few examples like they are at all a balanced representation.

Red Mercury accidentally makes a pro-cop argument in his defense of cancel culture

"It's just some bad apples"

And the rest of the thread is just Incelsor bitching about who likes the article
« Last Edit: September 01, 2021, 01:46:34 PM by HaughtyFrank »

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #48702 on: September 01, 2021, 01:46:39 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/nsfw-misconception-the-porn-industry-is-guilty-of.480175/

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So I'm watching porn with my lady last night and she mentioned something I never actually thought of but true.
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My girl looked at me and told me how could porn be such bullshit? like not all girls love to give blowjobs and
most definitely not all girls are always clean shave.

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This is meant to be a fun thread....tell me Era.. what are some misconception the porn industry is definitely guilty of?

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As always MODS please lock this if things gets carried away. thanks.
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Era's first playboy movie.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #48703 on: September 01, 2021, 01:52:40 PM »
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What happened with Etika is why I can never “meet in the middle” people that would say cancel culture isn’t a real thing, or if admitting so that it’s somehow okay.  What happened to him was abhorrent, a crime against what remains of our collective soul.  Those are people I would wish real, lasting violence against.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #48704 on: September 01, 2021, 02:00:37 PM »
I wasn't an etika superfan or anything but I was familiar with him and he seemed like a nice guy who had fun reactions online, positive vibe most of the time
:fbm
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #48705 on: September 01, 2021, 02:07:13 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/giftbots-gaming-giveaways-ot-free-to-a-good-home-no-begging-requests-or-taking-advantage.146771/page-349#post-72400198

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #48706 on: September 01, 2021, 02:11:01 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/james-corden-camila-cabello-billy-porter-and-idina-menzel-stopped-traffic-in-la-for-a-flash-mob-to-promote-a-dumb-movie.478629/page-3#post-72267081

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Yeah, he is insufferable that no one likes but he has connections so he gets gigs. The rest of the world hates the guy but a few of you feel as if we are doing something wrong with these jokes. Like, you're in the minority here. The guy is a joke.
The only opinion I hold of the man is that he isn't anywhere near as good as his predecessor, Craig Ferguson, who is a legitimate idol of mine. Otherwise, I have no dog in this fight.

However, people are advocating running the man over(I'm certain this same person had completely different views when the altright did it), threatening to run over, or(in your case) straight up attacking him by throwing heavy, and possibly deadly, items at him. You're not making jokes, you're being asshats. It's disgusting.
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #48707 on: September 01, 2021, 02:20:39 PM »
i'd gladly run over james corden, or just merely whip his ass ;) :badass
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #48708 on: September 01, 2021, 02:24:29 PM »
I wonder how many execs have made corden their slave piggy in their penthouses.

Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #48709 on: September 01, 2021, 02:38:34 PM »


Nepenthe is the network in this scenario.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #48710 on: September 01, 2021, 03:12:37 PM »


Nepenthe is the network in this scenario.

See, even there it's about blackness because he's making it about a black group of friends and it has Black in the name.

Good video and I know it's a joke but contributes to the mindset I'm talking about even if they're right about the networks' demands.
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #48711 on: September 01, 2021, 03:20:12 PM »
Fair enough.  Not gonna pretend I understand this much when my only point of reference when it comes to personal experience is people thinking whatever my stance on Israel is should be my most defining trait as a Jewish guy.

In other news, with the banbot working again, I caught this.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/nintendo-general-discussion-ot26-kafkas-dream-land-stop-asian-hate-please-read-op.473982/page-117#post-72373174

Dark Cloud, dude with over 61k posts got perm'd.  Is that the highest?

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #48712 on: September 01, 2021, 03:35:22 PM »
Black Time is a an old but never fully proven time/space theorem from the early 30's that deals with Black Holes.


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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #48713 on: September 01, 2021, 03:54:33 PM »
Imagine getting permed for hostility over Nintendo :crowdlaff

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #48714 on: September 01, 2021, 04:06:27 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/fia-formula-one-2021-ot-ive-got-to-stop-because-ive-got-a-lump-in-my-throat.399904/page-262#post-70581354

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:’) come on now do you really believe that?
From Hamilton and his theatrics I believe almost anything. Also not showing any respect for the French anthem on the podium was very on brand.

It must be hard when he finishes 3rd (or 1st or whatever) and not a single soul wants to congratulate or celebrate with him, you reap what you sow I guess…

If you criticize Hamilton in the Era F1 thread, you are automatically assumed to be racist.
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #48715 on: September 01, 2021, 04:11:54 PM »
he's a bit of a wanker tho :trumps
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #48716 on: September 01, 2021, 04:29:29 PM »
Imagine getting permed for hostility over Nintendo :crowdlaff

Which mod is a filler alt?
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #48717 on: September 01, 2021, 04:31:26 PM »
 ;)
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« Reply #48718 on: September 01, 2021, 04:33:11 PM »
Imagine getting permed for hostility over Nintendo :crowdlaff
this is the way  ;)
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #48719 on: September 01, 2021, 04:41:59 PM »
I'm guessing this guy's game wasn't a hot seller on the Steam marketplace. 
He has yet to release his first title, Divinoids.

The v1 version was given away free in a Humble choice and still :no1curr; the entire fanbase discussion is like, 2 fucking threads on the steam forums :lol

With that kind of response I'd be sucking some EGS-cock in the hope of an exclusivity buy out too