USA Politics Thread |OT| Son of a bitch!

[benjipwns]

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1479172475329994754

[benjipwns]

https://twitter.com/cjciaramella/status/1479142491869876233

https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1479111384042393603

[Himu]

[Himu]

I think the January 6 insurrectionists deserve prison but are we going to do "on this day ____ years ago" every year now?

[benjipwns]

[benjipwns]

https://twitter.com/brianstelter/status/1479085805536747522

I don't think this is the own he thinks it is.

[Uncle]

I think the January 6 insurrectionists deserve prison but are we going to do "on this day ____ years ago" every year now?

when you think about it and trace back the roots of the rhetoric, gamergate was directly responsible for Jan 6

[Himu]

I think the January 6 insurrectionists deserve prison but are we going to do "on this day ____ years ago" every year now?

when you think about it and trace back the roots of the rhetoric, gamergate was directly responsible for Jan 6

Ughhh

[BIONIC]

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I’ll save my donations for the December 14th political prisoners, thank you very much 

[benjipwns]

https://twitter.com/GraemeEdgeler/status/1479237549604294656

 

[benjipwns]

https://twitter.com/katieglueck/status/1479255535178420224

awwww yesss

[benjipwns]

https://twitter.com/rickklein/status/1479103258903916544

 

[benjipwns]

https://twitter.com/michaelharriot/status/1478619579190583296

[Himu]

https://www.businessinsider.com/kamala-harris-pearl-habor-911-comparison-jan-6-speech-2022-1?utm_source=reddit.com

Lmao 1/6 was fucked up but at the end of the day it's a what if. No one died besides Babbitt iirc.

I'll just paste what was said on r/moderatepolitics

She can compare it to whatever she wants, voters won't really care when it comes time for elections, they are going to look at how their own personal livelihoods have been affected.

I doubt they are going to say "Well, inflation sucks, gas prices suck, house prices suck, food prices suck, but..I don't want another Jan 6th to happen, so I'm voting against that"

Btw, I'm not trying to downplay Jan 6th, it was inexcusable, but I don't think it'll affect people's votes as much no matter how much they try to use it as a fear tactic.

The Democrats will have to get some better ammo if they only have Trump, and Jan 6 to fall back on come election time.

Virginia showed shouting Trump name is useless, but they don't seem interested in changing that.

Outside of Reddit and Democratic politicians, I don't think a single person that I know of gives a shit about January 6. The fact that the Democrats make it a big deal while the rest of the American people struggle with gas and food prices, makes me think it'll hurt them long term because they think this is more important than what it really is (compared to other current issues)

Two things true:

1. What happened at the Capitol was wrong, all involved in trespassing and/or coordinating attacks should be prosecuted to the fullest extent.
2. Democrats want to use this against Republicans for political gain, and its very transparent and obvious. They're not even really hiding this, as I believe Schumer said he was going to try to use the anniversary of the event to push the Democrats changes to federal voting laws.

Also, comparing to 9/11 and Pearl Harbor is silly, obviously.

That feels like cheapening national tragedies to score political points.

Democrats seem to have a tendency to overplay their hand, even when it's a winning one.  Rather than let Trump sink himself (which he promptly did), they got down into the muck with him and impeached him left and right and seemed petty and partisan in the process (alliteration!).  Instead of condemning the minority of these folks for trying to interrupt the peaceful transfer of power, they're trying to overstate their impact and number of supporters for political purposes.  The only people this will resonate with already vote for Democrats.

Especially during the Trump era, Democrats had a golden opportunity to be the adults in the room and broaden their appeal.  I was there for the taking.  Instead, (according to them) everything Trump and the Republicans did was a threat to democracy which was therefore always on the verge of collapsing.  Schumer first demanded that we preserve the filibuster (when he was in the minority) in order to save democracy but when Dems took the majority, we now have to kill/alter the filibuster in order to do what?  You guessed it:  Save democracy.  I'm starting to see a trend here.

On social issues, they tailored their message in order to appeal to a very narrow group (the progressive left), which further alienated people who may have been enticed to the party with a more moderate message.  Once Biden got into office, the party swung even further left both economically and socially.  Rather than appealing to more voters, they seem to be hell-bent on catering to a very vocal minority within their party, which is a terrible way to win an election.  The messaging just doesn't appeal to large parts of the country.

FWIW: I realize Biden won in 2020, but I'd argue (based on the House votes) that was a very specific circumstance.  I think President Biden received a lot of anti-Trump votes in 2020 (as opposed to Pro-Biden votes).

Dems, recognize that American voters have only two real options. Yeah we can vote third party but if you don't come with the goods, Americans might look at what someone else is selling. No amount of 1/6 mentions changes this.

[Himu]

Lmao remember when dude asked me to post a source most Americans are moving past Covid and living life as we did before?

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/01/06/world/omicron-covid-vaccine-tests?smtyp=cur&smid=tw-nytimes#former-biden-advisers-call-on-the-administration-to-change-its-covid-strategy

Imagine being scurred when you have a vaccine and a booster. Lmao pussy shit unless you're actually immunocompromised, have a child aged 0-5, or are elderly, or live with someone in those three groups. Finally Biden. Finally. Open the gates. This fucking thing is cooked.

[Himu]

https://www.ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/news/2022/01/06/adams--hochul-announce-new-subway-policing-strategies-to-draw-riders

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Lmao pussy shit unless you're actually immunocompromised, have a child aged 0-5, or are elderly, or live with someone in those three groups.

 

[Madrun Badrun]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/toddler-shoots-mother-sibling-texas-b1988437.html

[Himu]

Lmao pussy shit unless you're actually immunocompromised, have a child aged 0-5, or are elderly, or live with someone in those three groups.

 

Different people will make different decisions, and that’s OK. Severely immunocompromised people — like those who have received organ transplants or are actively receiving cancer treatment — have reason to be extra cautious. For otherwise healthy older people, on the other hand, the latest data may be encouraging enough to affect their behavior.

Consider this: Before Omicron, a typical vaccinated 75-year-old who contracted Covid had a roughly similar risk of death — around 1 in 200 — as a typical 75-year-old who contracted the flu. (Here are the details behind that calculation, which is based on an academic study.)

Omicron has changed the calculation. Because it is milder than earlier versions of the virus, Covid now appears to present less threat to most vaccinated elderly people than the annual flu does.

The flu, of course, does present risk for the elderly. And the sheer size of the Omicron surge may argue for caution over the next few weeks. But the combination of vaccines and Omicron’s apparent mildness means that, for an individual, Covid increasingly resembles the kind of health risk that people accept every day.

Via nyt https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/05/briefing/omicron-risk-milder-pandemic.html

Some of you need to admit you don't want this to end. You're opposite of Covid denialists, and Covid extremists. Less than the flu.

[Himu]

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/586710-warren-accuses-supermarket-chains-executives-of-profiting-from-inflation

[Himu]

You're supposed to avoid people when the flu is going around too, dipshit

If they have the flu, sure.

Which is precisely why you wear a mask. But you don't stop going to restaurants during flu season. You don't make endless doom posts about flu season. Knowing flu is out there doesn't stop me from going to the movies or something. You're not obsessively posting daily case numbers during flu season. You don't put your life off for flu season. You get your shot and go. In this case, get vaccinated, wear your mask and move on with your life. The endless doomerism tied to Covid extremists is just as damaging and revolting as Covid denialists.

Thank you for making my case....dipshit.

Now get some pants on, grow some balls, put on your mask, and end this Covid bitch fest. If I have to see Tripon or someone talk about how they haven't eaten in a restaurant for two years one more time.

[Beezy]

https://www.businessinsider.com/kamala-harris-pearl-habor-911-comparison-jan-6-speech-2022-1?utm_source=reddit.com

Lmao 1/6 was fucked up but at the end of the day it's a what if. No one died besides Babbitt iirc.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/05/us/politics/jan-6-capitol-deaths.html

WASHINGTON — As a pro-Trump protest turned into a violent attack on the Capitol on Jan. 6 last year, four people in the crowd died.

Ashli Babbitt, an Air Force veteran, was fatally shot by a Capitol Police officer as rioters tried to breach the House chamber.

Kevin D. Greeson died of a heart attack, collapsing on the sidewalk west of the Capitol on Jan. 6.

Rosanne Boyland appeared to have been crushed in a stampede of fellow rioters as they surged against the police.

Benjamin Philips, the founder of a pro-Trump website called Trumparoo, died of a stroke.

Mr. Greeson and Mr. Philips died of natural causes, the Washington medical examiner said in April. He added that Ms. Boyland’s death was caused by an accidental overdose.

In the days and weeks after the riot, five police officers who had served at the Capitol on Jan. 6 died.

Officer Brian D. Sicknick of the Capitol Police, who was attacked by the mob, died on Jan. 7.

Officer Jeffrey Smith of the Metropolitan Police Department killed himself after the attack.

Officer Howard S. Liebengood of the Capitol Police also died by suicide four days afterward.

The Capitol Police had previously said that Officer Sicknick died from injuries sustained “while physically engaging with protesters.” The Washington medical examiner later ruled that he had died of natural causes: multiple strokes that occurred hours after Officer Sicknick’s confrontation with the mob. The medical examiner added, however, that “all that transpired played a role in his condition.”

A bipartisan Senate report, released in June, found that the seven deaths were connected to the Capitol attack. But the report was issued a month before two Metropolitan Police officers — Gunther Hashida and Kyle DeFreytag — died by suicide in July.

The police agencies have not classified the four total suicides as “line of duty” deaths that would provide the victims’ families with enhanced benefits. Washington law excludes suicide deaths from the line-of-duty designation.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

It's just a flu

- trump himu

[benjipwns]

https://twitter.com/TexasGOP/status/1479529037949292549

I don't think this is the own they think it is.

[benjipwns]

Speaking of Texas GOP:
https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1479264723740684288
https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/1479272140625092614

spoiler (click to show/hide)

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1479562750053400576

https://twitter.com/BenjySarlin/status/1479433855379685382

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[chronovore]

Cruz is the guy who doesn’t care which car he’s riding in, as long as he gets a ride.

[benjipwns]

https://twitter.com/BecketAdams/status/1479573656913154052

[benjipwns]

https://twitter.com/kerpen/status/1479475073014710275
https://twitter.com/greg_price11/status/1479490390474604544

Look, nobody's perfect, you guys are being so critical right now!

[T-Short]

https://twitter.com/dandrezner/status/1479805809123115009

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/supserena1/status/1478803717285679105

Eric Adams is going to be one of those true posters, isn't he.

[T-Short]

https://twitter.com/kenklippenstein/status/1479929265118449666

[Propagandhim]

https://twitter.com/Gabriel_Pogrund/status/1480093487840305157

 

[benjipwns]

https://twitter.com/MeetThePress/status/1480187349346697216
https://twitter.com/axios/status/1480190393874587651

[benjipwns]

Ted Cruz can't stop winning:
https://twitter.com/SenTedCruz/status/1479613921111822340

[benjipwns]

https://twitter.com/SlimRyan45/status/1479852062959669255

The fact that it was 28 degrees out where Ruth also lives should have tipped her off that this wasn't the route to take.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

https://twitter.com/RuthMarcus/status/1479938931470831622
https://twitter.com/RuthMarcus/status/1480302511072457136

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[Kurt Russell]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10384965/amp/AOC-reveals-COVID-partying-maskless-Miami.html

 

[Potato]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10384965/amp/AOC-reveals-COVID-partying-maskless-Miami.html

 

Big Oof

[benjipwns]

Another traitor to our country:
https://twitter.com/ABCPolitics/status/1480386842952355849
https://twitter.com/davecatanese/status/1480670834603614208

 

"I will never endorse this jerk again."

[close]

[Potato]

"I will never endorse this jerk again."

[close]

As a non-American, I can confirm that the United States was, in fact, a laughing stock just one year ago, and two years ago, and three years ago, and four years ago, and five years ago.

[benjipwns]

https://twitter.com/josh_wingrove/status/1480559083421896709

good job, good effort

[Himu]

ROFL

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/biden-voting-rights-filibuster/2022/01/11/ada7ce66-72dd-11ec-b202-b9b92330d4fa_story.html

Biden in 2005:

“I say to my friends on the Republican side, you may own the field right now but you won’t own it forever.” And he concluded, “I pray to God when the Democrats take back control, we don’t make the same kind of naked power grab that you are doing.”

-Senator Joe Biden, May 23, 2005

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/09/23/dont-fall-filibuster-abolition-its-trap/


ROFL

Democrats are the OGs of setting new standards while playing hardball, and then having a surprised Pikachu face when Republicans throw those standards right back at them.

    2006: "We're gonna delay every one of Bush's judicial nominations. That’ll teach him.” 2014: "NOOOOOOOO you can't delay Obama's judicial nominations! Republicans are racist! The "O" in GOP stands for obstructionist!"

    2013: "Time to remove the judicial filibuster, boys. It's the only way to get our nominees through." 2020: "NOOOOO what do you mean Republicans have voted in a 6-3 conservative Supreme Court through bare minimum party line majorities! This is an abuse of power! The Court is invalid and corrupted!

    2018: "Impeach Trump because of obstruction of Congress, something every President has done for the last 50 years but we choose now to act on it." 2022: "NOOOOOOO why is Ted Cruz saying the GOP will impeach Biden?? This is political brinksmanship!"

    YOU ARE HERE ——> 2022: “Guys I have a brilliant idea. Let’s get rid of the filibuster entirely for just one day, pass the voting rights act, then put it back in place.” 2024: “NOOOOOO what do you mean Republicans temporarily removed the filibuster to pass the National Abortion Ban Act, which passed 50-50 in the Senate with Vice President DeSantis breaking the tie? This is a gross violation of democracy and human rights! Republicans out here playing legislative games again! The minority party wasn’t even consulted!”

[benjipwns]

this dude i can't even
https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1480948292045336577

[benjipwns]

https://twitter.com/aidnmclaughlin/status/1480977129932218375

  "It may be time for a change candidate."

[Potato]

What the fuck is wrong with the Democrats?

Hilary lost to Trump because she was Hilary, not because Trump was any decent candidate. Even contemplating putting her up again is madness

[DJ Bedroom]

#itsherturn
#myabuela
#pokemongofuckyourselftothepolls

[benjipwns]

lol Romney
https://twitter.com/frankthorp/status/1481031670971047938

[benjipwns]

why is this a thing

[benjipwns]

https://twitter.com/tomfriedman/status/1481057380582543362
 

[Joe Molotov]

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why is this a thing

Or for $60, he'll record a birthday message for your friend or family member.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

nvm

[bork]

https://twitter.com/aidnmclaughlin/status/1480977129932218375

  "It may be time for a change candidate."

That second photo looks like

[stufte]

https://twitter.com/aidnmclaughlin/status/1480977129932218375

  "It may be time for a change candidate."

No. Fuck no. Fucking fuck no. No no nope.

[Raist]

Trump vs. Clinton 2 lessgo

[Skullfuckers Anonymous]

Fuck Hillary, we have a new queen.

https://mobile.twitter.com/AlexThomp/status/1481626312041246721

[benjipwns]

The Republican National Committee (RNC) alerted the Commission on Presidential Debates (CPD) on Thursday that it plans to require GOP presidential nominees not to attend debates run by the commission going forward.

"The RNC will initiate the process of amending the Rules of the Republican Party at our upcoming Winter Meeting to prohibit future Republican nominees from participating in CPD-sponsored debates," wrote Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel in the letter, which was obtained by The Hill.

McDaniel said GOP voters "have lost trust" in the commission and noted that the RNC has proposed a number of reforms to the debate process.

"Unfortunately, neither the tone nor substance of your latest response inspires confidence that the CPD will meaningfully address the serious issues which the RNC has raised," she said.

If the RNC moves to change its rules, the pullout would mark one of the greatest changes in the history of U.S. presidential debates, which the CPD has hosted for more than 30 years.

https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1481670184339492870

[benjipwns]

Fuck Hillary, we have a new queen.

[benjipwns]

https://twitter.com/johntabin/status/1481710130689454090

[benjipwns]

huge if true

[Himu]

Hahahahaha

DIE

https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-approval-lower-donald-trump-same-stage-presidency-poll-1668931

[benjipwns]

https://twitter.com/newrepublic/status/1481592213452857346

Over the course of many years and many think pieces, the case against the filibuster has been laid out. Typically, critics of the Jim Crow relic invoke various historical facts (some of which have apparently been lost on, or willfully ignored by, certain critical members of the Senate), as well as an array of practical and prudential bases. Onto the pile, however fruitlessly, let us add another: The filibuster is a plot against Vice President Kamala Harris—to take away her constitutional right to vote.

Article I, Section 3 of the Constitution makes it plain: Harris, as chair of the Senate, is given the responsibility to vote “when the Senate is equally divided.” In all the furor over the filibuster blocking voting rights legislation, keep in mind it is blocking Harris from this constitutional right, as well. The supermajority rule that ran counter to the Founders’ desires, now upheld by the filibuster’s status quo, is not just aiding in the disenfranchisement of voters by blocking meaningful voting rights legislation from passage—it’s also disenfranchising the woman sent to Washington to resolve the disputes of a divided Senate.

It would be fitting if Harris, given the chance to gavel the filibuster out of existence to pass the Freedom to Vote Act, reclaimed her rights at the same time. She can put that to the Senate on January 17 when any rules changes are being considered—by starting with a declaration that the filibuster is not just unfair or undemocratic but unconstitutional, as well.

Harris, as chair, could reach the same conclusions. Rather than just hope a Senate majority uses the “nuclear option” to rid us of the filibuster, she could press the button. For the reasons above, she could declare the supermajority for cloture to be in conflict with Article I.

She may fail in the attempt. A majority can overturn a ruling of the chair. It is not so easy even for some Democrats in the Senate to give up the filibuster. There are many, many other bills that the senators take up other than voting rights legislation. So individual senators are caught in a dilemma worthy of a class in game theory—though glad to remove it for A, they do not want to remove it for B, or maybe C, or maybe D, or maybe an unknown X that will arrive later in their six-year terms. So the filibuster remains in place forever—except now for the budget and for nominations to judgeships and political positions. In these two cases, the budget and nominations, there is no choice but to get rid of the filibuster or there would be institutional collapse of the courts and of the executive branch.

However, with the John Lewis Act and Freedom to Vote Act, we are speaking about the institutional collapse of democracy itself. Protecting the integrity of federal elections from state interference is necessary to the integrity of the federal government—it is an obligation that is set forth in the original Elections Clause, Article I, Section 4. It is the only clause, the only text, that says Congress can override any state regulation of a federal election. Ever since 1787, Article I, Section 4 has been in there, the original nuclear option, to protect the national government from institutional collapse. It is an outrage to use the filibuster to block even the power of the national government to save itself. Surely that must have at least the same priority as enacting a budget by majority rule.

Let the vice president show some muscle in defense of her country. Let the debate start on January 17 with a ruling from the chair that Rule 22 is in conflict with her own right to cast a vote when the Senate is evenly divided. Then let her dare the Senate to overrule her. To reclaim the right to vote in the blocked legislation, she should begin with reclaiming her own right to vote, as well.

By a quirk of history, the plot against America is now also a plot against a Black woman’s right to vote. Who says the vice president has nothing to do?

https://twitter.com/LoganDobson/status/1481743466891812864