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« Reply #4980 on: January 18, 2022, 09:42:56 PM »
Hmmm, racism versus empty sayings. Only two options. If the Democrats aren't doing shit, what are the only options? Ohhhhhh, it's the fucking Republicans. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Basic warfare.
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« Reply #4982 on: January 18, 2022, 09:51:13 PM »
Polling doesn't reflect what I'm saying? Latinos are leaving Dems en masse becoming the new swing voter. Even Dems are bleeding black men and no longer cater to us. Asian Americans in New York are giving the Republicans the good ol' try. In New York definitely reflects what I'm saying and I've even provided evidence. Given my post was written from the context of a New Yorker you will have to provide me with counter reports that actually reflect a trend that you're arguing.
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« Reply #4983 on: January 18, 2022, 09:54:02 PM »
We'll see I guess... but the polling doesn't support what you're saying. It's like when they say black people will start voting R... I mean maybe but you've got the fucking neonazi shit as the first obstacle
What are they going to do? Vote Democrat for nearly a century on end no matter how the party changes?


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« Reply #4985 on: January 18, 2022, 09:56:20 PM »
Low hanging fruit. That's all you got? Patetico. Unlike you I actually live in USA and I actually live in NY. You don't live in America. If you did, I'd consider your opinion with some salt. But you don't. You're some non-American in an American thread judging Americans a place you likely have never been, which is a figment of your imagination, which you think you're better than. Who cares what you think?

LOL. I've visited there three times, including New York twice. My partner has family in Chicago and San Francisco. I've also extensively visited Central America and Europe and Asia. How many places your ignorant arse been, huh?

Who cares what you think? How does America impact you on your day to day life. It's not real lol just close the thread nicca. Instead you're invested in some far away land you don't live on and our politics and our people and what affects us. Big mad.

You really are that fucking dumb, huh?

How long until you drop this heel turn and go along some other manic detour?

Oh wow. You've visited. Whoopee doo. And this gives you expertise to speak on my country as if I give a fuck. Just like you don't give a fuck when I call your country a bunch of authoritarians.
Well, at least I've been out of my own country multiple times. How about you?

If you had, then maybe you would understand why and how the madness of US politics affects the rest of us so much.
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« Reply #4986 on: January 18, 2022, 09:57:02 PM »
We'll see I guess... but the polling doesn't support what you're saying. It's like when they say black people will start voting R... I mean maybe but you've got the fucking neonazi shit as the first obstacle
What are they going to do? Vote Democrat for nearly a century on end no matter how the party changes?

You see this as an aberration but it is key to liberalism and its dysfunction.

Take the homeless issue. Shosta offers no solutions. He just wants to let the homeless sleep in the trains. No solutions. Just complete abject neglect. Ignore the issue. All in the guise of moral superiority.

Liberalism.

Doesn't.

Work.

A year of NYC taught me this. What solutions do you have, Shosta beyond the pointed figure and the wag of a nail? The scrunch of a lifted nose?
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« Reply #4987 on: January 18, 2022, 09:59:07 PM »
What are they going to do? Vote Democrat for nearly a century on end no matter how the party changes?
they don't have to vote, I'd understand it if they need a little more sumpin to get them to pull a lever. I didn't try to save newsom in the recall for instance. I'm just saying it's insane to flip to the other side because you're tired of your party jerking you around. It feels insane to me

Ah so it's VOTE!!! VOTE RIGHTS!!! until they want to vote for the opposite party.

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« Reply #4988 on: January 18, 2022, 10:04:08 PM »
Shosta there's only one way out of this and you know it: abolish the two party system. The two party system forces you into binary choices with only two options regardless of your convictions, politics, or values.

You act like people vote Democrat agreeing with every single thing. I have extremely homophobic family that vote Democrat despite their stance on LGBT and you think it's not above people to vote GOP because of a very small number of Neo Nazi's? Yet the most racist people I've met in my life white libtards. Our President spoke at a Klansman's funeral. It's almost like both parties are racist in some way so you might as well pick your poison so arguments towards racism will fall on deaf ears and you might as well vote for what's closer to your convictions.
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« Reply #4989 on: January 18, 2022, 10:09:10 PM »
As long as FPTP dominates it's going to pretty much be a two party system by default. (Insert obligatory mention of the laws that maintain it here.)

New York is actually probably a bad example for downplaying third party chances compared to the rest of the country because of the fusion ballot lines. Letitia James herself originally won election to the City Council on the Working Families line and only on re-election gained the Democratic nomination IIRC. James Buckley famously won a Senate seat on the Conservative line. Rudy and Bloomberg both held the Liberal line despite being nominal Republicans and Bloomberg ran as his own party the last time around. And of course, Cuomo started his own hilarious front party in Women's Equality.

Not saying it's likely, as it's not, just that it's more likely than in almost every other state. Or at least was, I know the parties were warning that a recent Cuomo signed law was a way to silently kill them off by upping requirements.

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« Reply #4990 on: January 18, 2022, 10:23:58 PM »
A better future is possible.
Please don't post left-wing Democratic propaganda in this thread. Thank you.

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« Reply #4992 on: January 18, 2022, 10:35:08 PM »
Need to know more about the ~19% of Democrats (and 7% of Republicans and unaffiliated) who are apparently like "Yeah, definitely imprison them for tweeting against the vaccines, but hold up, take their kids? Too far man."

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« Reply #4993 on: January 18, 2022, 10:48:18 PM »
Take the homeless issue. Shosta offers no solutions. He just wants to let the homeless sleep in the trains. No solutions. Just complete abject neglect. Ignore the issue. All in the guise of moral superiority.

Liberalism.

Doesn't.

Work.

A year of NYC taught me this. What solutions do you have, Shosta beyond the pointed figure and the wag of a nail? The scrunch of a lifted nose?
https://twitter.com/Mediaite/status/1483637209991303168

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« Reply #4994 on: January 18, 2022, 11:00:36 PM »
Take the homeless issue. Shosta offers no solutions. He just wants to let the homeless sleep in the trains. No solutions. Just complete abject neglect. Ignore the issue. All in the guise of moral superiority.

Liberalism.

Doesn't.

Work.

A year of NYC taught me this. What solutions do you have, Shosta beyond the pointed figure and the wag of a nail? The scrunch of a lifted nose?
https://twitter.com/Mediaite/status/1483637209991303168

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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Resist Australian-style Fascism
« Reply #4996 on: January 19, 2022, 12:54:20 AM »
Were Utah a truly civilized place, the governor’s next move would be to find a way to mandate the kind of mass vaccination campaign we should have launched a year ago, going as far as to deploy the National Guard to ensure that people without proof of vaccination would not be allowed, well, anywhere.
well that escalated

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« Reply #4998 on: January 19, 2022, 01:05:34 AM »
Were Utah a truly civilized place, the governor’s next move would be to find a way to mandate the kind of mass vaccination campaign we should have launched a year ago, going as far as to deploy the National Guard to ensure that people without proof of vaccination would not be allowed, well, anywhere.
well that escalated

Fascists.

Get fucked! What next? Prison for the unvaccinated? Prison for the vaccinated that don't comply? What counts as vaxxed? Two shots? Three? Will people need four shots when the state decided kiss big pharma's ass and mandate it? Hopefully Utahans wisely boycott that paper and make their money bleed harder than a dried out tit fresh out of milk. Leeches.

It's like I goddamn said in the Covid thread about how almost every notable conspiracy theory is coming to past and now these liberals are demanding this to happen. I can't stand liberals. :stop
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« Reply #5000 on: January 19, 2022, 02:28:24 AM »
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« Reply #5003 on: January 19, 2022, 06:51:14 AM »
Here you go Himu:
The Democrats’ problems with Hispanic voters are, at this point, well-known and well-documented. But what of Asian voters, the other fast-growing part of the nonwhite population? A close look at political trends suggests that here too a problem could be emerging.

https://theliberalpatriot.substack.com/p/the-five-deadly-sins-of-the-left

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In short, Democrats are stuck. They have not escaped the gravitational field of identity politics and their inability to do so means that their brand cannot sustain a durable majority. Indeed, there are signs that Democrats are experiencing more and more slippage among working class voters of all races. For a left-wing party, that is catastrophic—not just for 2022, but far beyond. They may find out, to their sorrow, that it is far easier to control the commanding heights of cultural production than the commanding heights of political power.

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Doesn’t the left want to make people happy? One has to wonder. There seems to be more interest in figuring out what people should stop doing and consuming than in figuring out how people can have more to do and consume. The very idea of abundance is rarely discussed, except to disparage it.

It's almost like the left are the negative Nancy's of politics. All finger wag, no optimism. They don't even have an American dream to sell. Oh there's optimism right. But only if you do what we say and think the way we think. They act like coercive bullies. All bark, all doom, all tears. Weakness distilled, like the hardest vodka made of their own transparent tears, drunk off the fat of their own Hope and Change.
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« Reply #5004 on: January 19, 2022, 01:04:56 PM »
Here you go Himu:
The Democrats’ problems with Hispanic voters are, at this point, well-known and well-documented. But what of Asian voters, the other fast-growing part of the nonwhite population? A close look at political trends suggests that here too a problem could be emerging.

https://theliberalpatriot.substack.com/p/the-five-deadly-sins-of-the-left

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In short, Democrats are stuck. They have not escaped the gravitational field of identity politics and their inability to do so means that their brand cannot sustain a durable majority. Indeed, there are signs that Democrats are experiencing more and more slippage among working class voters of all races. For a left-wing party, that is catastrophic—not just for 2022, but far beyond. They may find out, to their sorrow, that it is far easier to control the commanding heights of cultural production than the commanding heights of political power.

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Doesn’t the left want to make people happy? One has to wonder. There seems to be more interest in figuring out what people should stop doing and consuming than in figuring out how people can have more to do and consume. The very idea of abundance is rarely discussed, except to disparage it.

It's almost like the left are the negative Nancy's of politics. All finger wag, no optimism. They don't even have an American dream to sell. Oh there's optimism right. But only if you do what we say and think the way we think. They act like coercive bullies. All bark, all doom, all tears. Weakness distilled, like the hardest vodka made of their own transparent tears, drunk off the fat of their own Hope and Change.

That's an interesting article, I definitely agree with some of his points - identity politics being a giant red herring for the left and an alienating factor for the struggling working class, in particular. But climate change issues and techno-pessimism are things I just cannot seem to shake off. Especially as more and more companies consolidate and innovation slows. I do enjoy my dystopian sci-fi and tech-pessimistic media, and being in a tech related industry can quickly deduce potential negatives/ease of exploitation from new tech being put to market (hell, 2 of the companies I worked for popped up in The Bore's #latestagecapitalism thread).

To me, the biggest issue with the left is their terrible messaging, and how Republicans take advantage of the most extreme left positions to scare the centrists (who may possibly be open to some sort of reform) and stifle any sort of positive change. I still have to keep in mind that places like RE and tankie-themed FB meme pages are a niche of a niche, mainly consisting of zoomers with lots of ambition and pipe dreams but limited real world experience...
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Resist Australian-style Fascism
« Reply #5005 on: January 19, 2022, 01:24:11 PM »
US politics is like shin megami tensei where you have the law route and the chaos route but if you actually want to end up with what's best for humanity you have to do some specific quests like make sure you deliver 5 vials of baphomet essence to the scientists, gaslight both of your best friends into thinking you support each of their contradictory positions, and promise the teen girl you've been seeing in your dreams that her death will not be in vain
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« Reply #5006 on: January 19, 2022, 01:59:58 PM »
US politics is like shin megami tensei where you have the law route and the chaos route but if you actually want to end up with what's best for humanity you have to do some specific quests like make sure you deliver 5 vials of baphomet essence to the scientists, gaslight both of your best friends into thinking you support each of their contradictory positions, and promise the teen girl you've been seeing in your dreams that her death will not be in vain

I just wish my cat would make me go to bed early.  :fbm
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Resist Australian-style Fascism
« Reply #5007 on: January 19, 2022, 03:02:50 PM »
https://www.yahoo.com/news/pro-choice-pac-emilys-list-000454396.html

:heh

Revealing your back to attack Sinema? Sinema might not have a GOP rival in her election for her seat and a moderate dem will be very viable in AZ. Indepedent gang loves her. She will be competitive without their support. Also funny how this group is inflicting its agenda in politics beyond abortion rights. Reminds me of...NRA. Hmmm. :thinking

Can't wait to see her regain her seat!

When the Dems lose the General they'll go back to using the Filibuster as a tool to Save Democracy and repost Bernie's long ass filibuster as proof.

US politics is like shin megami tensei where you have the law route and the chaos route but if you actually want to end up with what's best for humanity you have to do some specific quests like make sure you deliver 5 vials of baphomet essence to the scientists, gaslight both of your best friends into thinking you support each of their contradictory positions, and promise the teen girl you've been seeing in your dreams that her death will not be in vain

:dead
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« Reply #5008 on: January 19, 2022, 03:21:28 PM »
Speaking of Bernie....

Calling your allies pathetic. Like I said: the left are bullies.



:heh

Remember the time Bernie proudly voted against filibuster reform?





Fuck off, Do Nothing Democrats.
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« Reply #5009 on: January 19, 2022, 03:39:38 PM »
Dios MiO



All because the Do Nothing Democratic Clinton administration convinced the Ukraine's to give up their nuke stock in exchange for our protection in case this would happen. America as World Police is an absolute failure.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/defense-national-security/in-1994-the-us-succeeded-in-convincing-ukraine-to-give-up-its-nukes-but-failed-to-secure-its-future

Bad leadership at home, bad leadership abroad. Hmmm I'm smelling a trend! And it smells like donkey shit.  It's almost as if the Democrats can't govern! Much less lead. We need a strong man. We need Trump.
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« Reply #5010 on: January 19, 2022, 05:01:03 PM »
While I agree the foreign policy of the Democrats under Obama and now Biden is an absolute, completely and total disaster including the things he just said.
I do think that disarming a bunch of obsolete nukes (regardless of any Russian action) was the right thing to do. The situation in 2014 wouldn't have been any better if there were nukes in play instead of fire bombs and snipers.

When Putin took the Crimea he was so paranoid and worried that NATO would intervene that he put nuclear missiles on standby in case NATO would attack the Russian invasion forces.
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« Reply #5011 on: January 19, 2022, 05:43:13 PM »
Benji:

https://www.newsweek.com/its-time-black-america-break-democratic-party-opinion-1649223

I can feel her hate. I never figured I'd see a black person that hates the Democrats as much as me :rejoice

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« Reply #5012 on: January 19, 2022, 07:26:29 PM »
Joe shits on the floor, President Psaki has to clean it up

https://twitter.com/DevonHeinen/status/1483948900520054785

Finally some real news on CNN

https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/1483945128070979584
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« Reply #5013 on: January 19, 2022, 08:28:19 PM »
:lol President Cuck
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« Reply #5014 on: January 19, 2022, 09:17:48 PM »



:lol
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« Reply #5015 on: January 19, 2022, 09:42:54 PM »
Here you go Himu:
The Democrats’ problems with Hispanic voters are, at this point, well-known and well-documented. But what of Asian voters, the other fast-growing part of the nonwhite population? A close look at political trends suggests that here too a problem could be emerging.

https://theliberalpatriot.substack.com/p/the-five-deadly-sins-of-the-left

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In short, Democrats are stuck. They have not escaped the gravitational field of identity politics and their inability to do so means that their brand cannot sustain a durable majority. Indeed, there are signs that Democrats are experiencing more and more slippage among working class voters of all races. For a left-wing party, that is catastrophic—not just for 2022, but far beyond. They may find out, to their sorrow, that it is far easier to control the commanding heights of cultural production than the commanding heights of political power.

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Doesn’t the left want to make people happy? One has to wonder. There seems to be more interest in figuring out what people should stop doing and consuming than in figuring out how people can have more to do and consume. The very idea of abundance is rarely discussed, except to disparage it.

It's almost like the left are the negative Nancy's of politics. All finger wag, no optimism. They don't even have an American dream to sell. Oh there's optimism right. But only if you do what we say and think the way we think. They act like coercive bullies. All bark, all doom, all tears. Weakness distilled, like the hardest vodka made of their own transparent tears, drunk off the fat of their own Hope and Change.

That's an interesting article, I definitely agree with some of his points - identity politics being a giant red herring for the left and an alienating factor for the struggling working class, in particular. But climate change issues and techno-pessimism are things I just cannot seem to shake off. Especially as more and more companies consolidate and innovation slows. I do enjoy my dystopian sci-fi and tech-pessimistic media, and being in a tech related industry can quickly deduce potential negatives/ease of exploitation from new tech being put to market (hell, 2 of the companies I worked for popped up in The Bore's #latestagecapitalism thread).

To me, the biggest issue with the left is their terrible messaging, and how Republicans take advantage of the most extreme left positions to scare the centrists (who may possibly be open to some sort of reform) and stifle any sort of positive change. I still have to keep in mind that places like RE and tankie-themed FB meme pages are a niche of a niche, mainly consisting of zoomers with lots of ambition and pipe dreams but limited real world experience...

I increasingly view the GOP as the party for the working man and the Democratic Party as the one for elites.
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Resist Australian-style Fascism
« Reply #5016 on: January 20, 2022, 04:09:19 AM »
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/white-house/biden-stirs-up-illegitimate-election-fracas

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"Oh, yeah, I think it could easily be illegitimate," Biden said, stumbling through his response.

For the past twenty one years the Democratic party has labeled Republican wins as "illegitimate". They are already preparing for a shellacking, a once in a generation loss, at midterms and this is how they steel their already primordial scared base with the news early: by preparing an election fraud tale. They'll argue the wave against them and their do nothing politics will be erroneous and false.

https://twitter.com/justinbaragona/status/1483931218810970112

They will double down in their dumbness, that their edicts are divine rather than self reflect on their dispassionate policy. The result? Donkey dung for you and donkey dung for me.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/supreme-court-refuses-trump-plea-to-block-national-archives-from-giving-records-to-jan-6-panel

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The U.S. Supreme Court ruled against former President Donald Trump and refused to block the National Archives from sharing documents from his time in the White House with the House committee investigating the Jan. 6 Capitol riot.

The high court's decision came as a one-paragraph order and was unsigned. Justice Clarence Thomas, nominated by former President Ronald Reagan, was the lone justice signaling that he would have granted Trump's request, which is based on the argument that the records are protected by executive privilege. President Joe Biden has supported their release.

This is ridiculous. Let it be released. What have you to fear? If you were sensible and had a softer touch during Covid we would still have you as our President during a time when the need for softness waned and testosterone was needed. Although we need you, you're also a disgrace. Truly, the President we deserve.
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Resist Australian-style Fascism
« Reply #5017 on: January 20, 2022, 10:28:44 AM »
They are already preparing for a shellacking, a once in a generation loss, at midterms
The President's party has lost in the House and Senate in 2006, 2010, 2014 and 2018.

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« Reply #5018 on: January 20, 2022, 10:33:48 AM »
I'm well aware. I'm commenting on how bad it could get. Democrats have already given up. I've never seen this before. It feels historic. With hope we can turn the tide and go full 1980 on the Do Nothing's in 2024.

:rejoice https://reason.com/video/2022/01/19/how-progressives-ruined-san-francisco-michael-shellenberger/ :rejoice

The failures of progressive policy: a group of enablers.

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« Reply #5022 on: January 20, 2022, 11:09:05 AM »
Also funny how this group is inflicting its agenda in politics beyond abortion rights. Reminds me of...NRA. Hmmm.
https://twitter.com/rorycooper/status/1483816051917869058
https://twitter.com/BMamont/status/1484048390195347456

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« Reply #5023 on: January 20, 2022, 11:19:25 AM »
:sabu :sabu :sabu
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« Reply #5026 on: January 20, 2022, 11:44:15 AM »
https://twitter.com/axios/status/1484148452963622915

https://twitter.com/mattdizwhitlock/status/1484151584347111427

Rob was angry at the woman, but not Manchin:
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Verrrrry tolerant of the left. Here's me looking surprised.



With things like r/hermancainaward, cheering when people die, disliking minorities when we vote opposite of them, and all around lifting up degeneracy it's not so shocking. When will they be able to finally look in the mirror and ask the question to end all questions,"Are we the baddies?"
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« Reply #5028 on: January 20, 2022, 12:57:21 PM »
Trafalgar: 38.7% Approval Rating for Biden; Voters Prefer GOP Over Dems 55.7% to 42.2%

https://amgreatness.com/2022/01/20/trafalgar-38-7-approval-rating-for-biden-voters-prefer-gop-over-dems-55-7-to-42-2/

Let's keep going!
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« Reply #5030 on: January 20, 2022, 01:56:27 PM »
Himu, I love you buddy - but what does the Republican party offer you besides a slight respite from the particularly annoying grievance politics from the Democratic party?  There's a lot to criticize with the left, especially their handling of sensitive issues regarding race and identity...  But what do the Republicans do for you?  Is it largely their stance on vax freedom?

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« Reply #5031 on: January 20, 2022, 02:39:06 PM »
Click spoiler for red pill.

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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Resist Australian-style Fascism
« Reply #5032 on: January 20, 2022, 03:13:33 PM »
Himu, I love you buddy - but what does the Republican party offer you besides a slight respite from the particularly annoying grievance politics from the Democratic party?  There's a lot to criticize with the left, especially their handling of sensitive issues regarding race and identity...  But what do the Republicans do for you?  Is it largely their stance on vax freedom?

Life experience. Living in a blue city in a red state is a complete opposite experience to living in a blue city in a blue state. It's easy to say you're a progressive until you've actually lived in a place that actually is.

You would think moving to NYC would make me more liberal/progressive than I was. I moved here as a progressive. In the end, I had to learn what it was like to live with and sit with the impact of my own policies. It was a massive wake up call.

Liberalism leads to:

1. Mediocrity - Privileged liberals hewed and hawed about the Pandemic and being scared to even go out even as they sat in their homes doing Zoom meetings, complaining about having to commute to the office well after vaccines were available. Whether my former roommates or whatever, I just noticed that the privilege of being able to work from home was an elite status that the elite couldn't recognize was privileged, nor could they appreciate as the rest of us - like myself and others I knew - had to sacrifice our bodies, our time, our safety to make ends meet in the middle of a pandemic. Through this experience I saw the laziness that was bred through virtual meetings, the privilege of work from home that it creates, and the mediocrity it brings. The rest of us operated on pure grit and a will to live despite all odds. Meanwhile the privileged are too scared to live because of social anxiety. It's really pathetic.

2. Weakness - Tied into the last point, and as we can see from Biden's lack of leadership, liberalism leads to weakness. Endless complaining, no solutions, just bleeding hearts. Their solution to most problems is to...do nothing. Or they do something but have no real end game plan so they protest the closing a nuclear plant to purport an increase in natural gas usage only to want to limit natural gas and increase gas energy prices a year later. They have no long term strategy. It is only ever feelings based finger pointing and victim blaming. There's almost never an idea of hope presented by the left. It's endless navel gazing and problems and doom and gloom. Going by the left, you can't do anything because you're black. You're a woman. You're this, you're that. Everything is tied to some victim complex of identity and I refuse to let my victories be defined by the color of my skin but the talent that I have and dreams I wish to achieve.

3. Excuse making - Black people can't get vote IDs despite the fact most black people live in the south and it's impossible to get anywhere in the south without a fucking drivers license and a car so most people already have IDs. Homeless are smoking crack on the subway and attacking people where children take the commute to school? Let's ignore it, they need a place to sleep! This all forms a trifecta of low expectations. They don't push anyone to do aspire to be their best, they merely look at society and victimize. Are these very real issues? In some cases, sure. But endless victimhood, what has it gotten us? Absolutely nothing. Hopes. Dreams. And a can do spirit. Maybe we will fail, but that's the tough America is made of.

More and more as I lived here I noticed that the real problems people face aren't met with respect but with money being thrown at the issue. It made me more fiscally conservative due to how much of my tax dollars go towards shit that don't solve anything.

Conservatives understand all of this. Although they have their own issues with liberty, Republicans have more respect towards it as a rule. I very much identify with the libertarians but the Libertarian Party isn't going to win a fight against the Democratic Party which I increasingly view as even worse for society than the Republicans especially through the lens of identity politics. I can talk to Republicans about things and they'll disagree on some things but understand where I'm coming from. I communicate my complex views on liberty and Democrats think I'm a bigot.

Over regulation, disregarding families and family values, no long term strategy, lack of strong leadership, privileged elitists, too fiscally liberal, reducing people to their identity/race/gender, the endless victim olympics, over 50 years of being a total clown show, their inability to get things done on a local/state/federal level, on and on and on. On most issues I realize I'm closer to the Republicans than the Democrats. A few years ago I flirted with conservatism and I wrongly put it in the box but I can admit I was wrong and I should have went all the way then and there. I've finally pushed the button.

At the end of the day we live in a two party system and the American people are keep choosing between the two because they can't govern. But for all of his faults, Americans did real well under Trump, especially our wallets and businesses and families.

Republicans offer me:

1. Hope. They actually believe the things they say. Conservatives just want upward mobility. That's what I want. Republicans actually believe if you work hard enough you'll make it. That's what I believe. I wouldn't have moved across the country if I didn't. In this, we are aligned. When I came here I found opportunity after opportunity after opportunity. Turns out opportunity knocks if you want it bad enough. No one stopped me because of my race. No one limited me but myself. By contrast, the left only judges, finger points, says this and that person thinks a certain way therefore they're bad and must be avoided.

2. A modern life. Republicans wisely understand that the conditions of our lives in here and now - today - is a rare circumstance in the circumference of human history and we should hold on to what we hold dear at all costs. Although there's much to improve, the liberal/progressive/communist idea of toppling what we have of unprecedented education, unprecedented peace, unprecedented opportunity for the human being to strive is bad. Often liberals are too concerned with transforming things without knowing what they're transforming them into. They are all heart, no brain.

3. Freedom. To own a gun. To own a business and run it how you like. To think what you want.

Throw in deregulation, school choice (as I plan for a family), more traditional values, lower taxes, better distribution of those taxes, less welfare programs that keep society mediocre, a can do spirit and it's pretty obvious which is better.

I think a better question is what the Democrats have to offer me.

I haven't even gotten into Vaccine mandates, the endless Covid safety parade, the endless Covid virtue signaling, turning vaccines into a full fledged identity, or the failures of the Biden administration. All of those things were the final domino enough to finally make me push the button. Republicans are by no means perfect but at this point, but they're closer to my ideals than the Democrats.

TLDR: Moving to NYC made me more conservative after challenging my progressive views. The only things I agree with Democrats on is healthcare reform (I get really good healthcare in NY and think it's worth paying a tax for) and a few other issues like decriminalization of drugs which funnily came from the more libertarian Colorado.
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Resist Australian-style Fascism
« Reply #5033 on: January 20, 2022, 03:14:04 PM »
Mods really need to restrict him and Nintex to their own politics thread for True American Patriots. 

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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Resist Australian-style Fascism
« Reply #5034 on: January 20, 2022, 03:14:53 PM »
this thread has been completely consumed by himu becoming fully invested in lib-owning culture :mjcry

I admit in the post-nintex comprehensive review I did not accurately predict this turn of events

the two possibilities are

1) as the lorax prophesied, life returns to this barren wasteland and people who used this forum who dared not tread into nintex-space slowly come back

2) only benji posts tweets until he realizes nobody else is commenting and he peaces out

I suppose the next election will be the proving ground
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Resist Australian-style Fascism
« Reply #5035 on: January 20, 2022, 03:24:24 PM »
Thanks Himu, I want to write a detailed response, but non-shitposting is rare for me on TheBore and I have a few things I need to take care of.   Will write soon.   I appreciate you delineating your thoughts.

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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Resist Australian-style Fascism
« Reply #5036 on: January 20, 2022, 03:29:48 PM »
Thanks Himu, I want to write a detailed response, but non-shitposting is rare for me on TheBore and I have a few things I need to take care of.   Will write soon.   I appreciate you delineating your thoughts.

I appreciate the respect. You are the first and only person on this forum to ask me one simple question: "why"? The rest merely judge, laugh, and finger point proving my thesis against liberals and particularly liberalism's deficiencies. Their inability to discuss, their inability to respect. I truly loathe them and want to see them cry. Being surrounded by a bunch of white communists and progressives where I have tap dance and keep my mouth shut for a year has me feeling a kind of way. I want to see them cry. Bloody tears if I have to.
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Resist Australian-style Fascism
« Reply #5038 on: January 20, 2022, 03:38:52 PM »


Thank you Ivanka :american

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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Resist Australian-style Fascism
« Reply #5039 on: January 20, 2022, 03:41:18 PM »
:american

Ivanka :rejoice
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