Author Topic: Steam Deck | RNDA2, 7" display, Dock, starting at $399 (yes OLED) (Read 37848 times)

Coax · « **Reply #120 on:** July 20, 2021, 07:43:01 AM »

Quote from: benjipwns on July 19, 2021, 04:53:37 PM

SteamOS is just a background layer to you using Steam like normal, especially in big picture mode. It's when you start wanting to install other stuff (non-Steam stuff) that you'll have to know anything about Linux. (Or install Windows)

Seems it'll be running KDE Plasma which seems pretty easy to use for such times one would want to interact with the rest of the OS.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #121 on:** July 20, 2021, 11:22:27 PM »

The only tragedy in all of this is that it's been almost a week and no one has made a "Ready for a Miracle" steam deck video, fuck the internet

benjipwns · « **Reply #122 on:** July 21, 2021, 07:41:32 PM »

Quote from: Coax on July 20, 2021, 07:43:01 AM

Seems it'll be running KDE Plasma which seems pretty easy to use for such times one would want to interact with the rest of the OS.

Oh, then it'll be pretty darn easy to install/tweak stuff in a Windows-like environment if need be.

Like for RetroArch, you would just need to install the snap store (if it's not already installed by Valve), then it's one click to install RetroArch from that. (Then just add a shortcut in Steam and you could stay in big picture mode or whatever.) All the emulator cores you grab from inside RetroArch, so you'd never have to leave a controller based interface except to install the snap store and since the Deck has those touchpads...

Interesting that SteamOS used to just be a barely repurposed Ubuntu and now it's ArchLinux running KDE with Proton and everything built for its own distribution like this. They've really been tinkering with this since the SteamBoxes.

remy · « **Reply #123 on:** July 21, 2021, 07:44:50 PM »

Quote from: benjipwns on July 21, 2021, 07:41:32 PM

Quote from: Coax on July 20, 2021, 07:43:01 AM
Seems it'll be running KDE Plasma which seems pretty easy to use for such times one would want to interact with the rest of the OS.
Oh, then it'll be pretty darn easy to install/tweak stuff in a Windows-like environment if need be.

Like for RetroArch, you would just need to install the snap store (if it's not already installed by Valve), then it's one click to install RetroArch from that. (Then just add a shortcut in Steam and you could stay in big picture mode or whatever.) All the emulator cores you grab from inside RetroArch, so you'd never have to leave a controller based interface except to install the snap store and since the Deck has those touchpads...

Interesting that SteamOS used to just be a barely repurposed Ubuntu and now it's ArchLinux running KDE with Proton and everything built for its own distribution like this. They've really been tinkering with this since the SteamBoxes.

You don't even really have to do that because retroarch is on steam. you can just install it directly from steam and then you're good to go. Then you just put your roms on your SD card or whatever, like any other device on earth

benjipwns · « **Reply #124 on:** July 21, 2021, 07:48:16 PM »

RetroArch on Steam is in a weird position, it only has ten cores available and it's not available to everyone. Hopefully this will change with SteamDeck though. But yeah, that would be the ideal situation.

remy · « **Reply #125 on:** July 21, 2021, 07:57:35 PM »

Ahh didn't know that. just saw over the page that you were already aware.

Oh well. it's not like typing "pacman -S retroarch" into terminal is hard.

It is funny seeing how many gamers online have no clue about linux. i forget not everyone is a supernerd like me

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #126 on:** July 21, 2021, 09:53:05 PM »

Like benji said, the retroarch situation on steam is some sort of weird half assed beta? When I saw it initially I was like, "why the fuck would retroarch want to be on steam anyway?" but I immediately had a eureka moment when I learned the steam deck will be running steam OS out of the box. If they CAN get everything running nice through steam, great. If not, whatever, there will be a million and one ways to get emus running on this thing.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #127 on:** July 23, 2021, 03:30:46 PM »

Some good info in here

bork · « **Reply #128 on:** July 25, 2021, 11:30:35 AM »

Looks like things are better now compared to the last time I tried it, but the load times are noticeably longer on some games.

Nintex · « **Reply #129 on:** July 25, 2021, 12:07:39 PM »

16GB is going to help a lot with this.
Maybe they'll use smart memory access for an additional boost.

Bebpo · « **Reply #130 on:** July 28, 2021, 04:08:52 PM »

So in terms of like Linux/SteamOS support, I just noticed that FF1-6 Pixel Remasters don't have Linux/SteamOS support so they won't run on Steam Deck at this moment. Apparently 0 FF games on Steam have Mac or Linux support. Lol SE.

Which is ridiculous for simple 2d stuff like this.

Hopefully Valve can really "make all Steam games compatible" by Steam Deck's release like they are touting.

Skullfuckers Anonymous · « **Reply #131 on:** July 28, 2021, 04:22:13 PM »

The ff games seem to run fine via proton.

https://www.protondb.com/search?q=Final%20fantasy

The pixel ones haven’t been tested yet, but I’d be shocked if they didn’t run.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #132 on:** July 28, 2021, 04:25:51 PM »

Didn't the pixel remasters just come out? There's probably not enough data on the proton compatibility with them just yet but I can't imagine it will be hard to get them to work

MMaRsu · « **Reply #133 on:** August 06, 2021, 01:34:47 PM »

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #134 on:** August 06, 2021, 01:57:10 PM »

Looks like a bunch of different outlets got access to it

benjipwns · « **Reply #135 on:** August 13, 2021, 09:09:22 PM »

https://twitter.com/XboxP3/status/1426324572626845697

benjipwns · « **Reply #136 on:** October 20, 2021, 04:47:43 PM »

https://twitter.com/afrouhhh/status/1450168156908138497

D3RANG3D · « **Reply #137 on:** October 20, 2021, 04:52:21 PM »

Pissy F Benny · « **Reply #138 on:** October 21, 2021, 08:24:53 AM »

the weak chin on giant dad sim has me

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #139 on:** October 21, 2021, 09:49:57 AM »

Quote from: benjipwns on October 20, 2021, 04:47:43 PM

https://twitter.com/afrouhhh/status/1450168156908138497

bork · « **Reply #140 on:** October 21, 2021, 11:34:43 AM »

Quote from: benjipwns on October 20, 2021, 04:47:43 PM

https://twitter.com/afrouhhh/status/1450168156908138497

Thought that was a 'shop, but those games are real

D3RANG3D · « **Reply #141 on:** November 03, 2021, 12:28:59 PM »

Svejk · « **Reply #142 on:** November 10, 2021, 03:56:49 PM »

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“We’re sorry about this—we did our best to work around the global supply chain issues, but due to material shortages, components aren’t reaching our manufacturing facilities in time for us to meet our initial launch dates,” Valve wrote. “Based on our updated build estimates, Steam Deck will start shipping to customers February 2022. This will be the new start date of the reservation queue—all reservation holders keep their place in line but dates will shift back accordingly.”

Bebpo · « **Reply #143 on:** November 10, 2021, 07:12:25 PM »

I was already Q2 so it's vaporware to me until I have one /shrug

chronovore · « **Reply #144 on:** November 18, 2021, 10:55:50 PM »

Blah, blah, supply chain, blah…

Tasty · « **Reply #145 on:** February 04, 2022, 11:27:01 AM »

https://twitter.com/carygolomb/status/1489413836541247489

Apple and IBM.

bork · « **Reply #146 on:** February 04, 2022, 01:16:11 PM »

That is BIG.

Steam Deck Lite when?

Bebpo · « **Reply #147 on:** February 04, 2022, 01:22:50 PM »

Yeah, my main worry is that it's gonna be too big.

Switch size is just about the max a handheld should be.

benjipwns · « **Reply #148 on:** February 04, 2022, 01:36:41 PM »

Quote from: Tasty on February 04, 2022, 11:27:01 AM

https://twitter.com/carygolomb/status/1489413836541247489

Apple and IBM.

benjipwns · « **Reply #149 on:** February 04, 2022, 01:39:29 PM »

Oh, he did that one

https://twitter.com/carygolomb/status/1489415285916553225

Also Lynx is the surprising winnar:
https://twitter.com/carygolomb/status/1489411208029560838

Svejk · « **Reply #150 on:** February 04, 2022, 01:55:58 PM »

Gimme dat phat and thicc hog of a handheld.

Tasty · « **Reply #151 on:** February 04, 2022, 03:43:20 PM »

Quote from: Svejk on February 04, 2022, 01:55:58 PM

Gimme dat phat and thicc hog of a handheld.

Got u bro

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #152 on:** February 04, 2022, 03:49:11 PM »

I like how the Lynx was almost as a big as a Steam Deck and it has like a 2.4in screen.

Svejk · « **Reply #153 on:** February 04, 2022, 03:50:01 PM »

Quote from: Tasty on February 04, 2022, 03:43:20 PM

Quote from: Svejk on February 04, 2022, 01:55:58 PM
Gimme dat phat and thicc hog of a handheld.

Got u bro

(Image removed from quote.)

bork · « **Reply #154 on:** February 04, 2022, 03:51:55 PM »

Quote from: Bebpo on February 04, 2022, 01:22:50 PM

Yeah, my main worry is that it's gonna be too big.

Switch size is just about the max a handheld should be.

Looks like it's about the size of a Switch with Hori split joycons attached. So that should be comfortable, but about as portable as a small laptop! Guess it depends on how light the Deck is.

thetylerrob · « **Reply #155 on:** February 04, 2022, 05:49:13 PM »

The Switch is sized for babbies, only big dick chad gamers will be playing on The Deck™

bork · « **Reply #156 on:** February 04, 2022, 07:06:15 PM »

Quote from: Joe Molotov on February 04, 2022, 03:49:11 PM

I like how the Lynx was almost as a big as a Steam Deck and it has like a 2.4in screen.

Waiting for someone to edit Steamdecks into old Lynx commercials!

Svejk · « **Reply #157 on:** February 04, 2022, 07:10:22 PM »

Quote from: thetylerrob on February 04, 2022, 05:49:13 PM

The Switch is sized for babbies, only big dick chad gamers will be playing on The Deck™

The console wars are about to get served balls deep with a fat steamy deck!

If only my kids would let me, I'd sell all my Switch shit to get one of these without batting an eye... Then play yuzu on that piece piece.

bork · « **Reply #158 on:** February 07, 2022, 01:27:31 PM »

Looking really good!

Tasty · « **Reply #159 on:** February 07, 2022, 02:35:20 PM »

Linux Gaming finally has its moment.

Nintex · « **Reply #160 on:** February 07, 2022, 03:19:00 PM »

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GPU blows competitors out of the water
Speakers are great
Battery life is great
Half the fucking price of competitors (it basically has no competition)
More games at launch than any other console in history
SD card loading actually fast

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Haptics aren't great
A bit wide

+/-
Some software issues and bugs

Drainage · « **Reply #161 on:** February 07, 2022, 03:33:10 PM »

For all the talk of 1.5 hours of battery on DMC V uncapped Ultra settings it would be interesting to see the battery life results running at low/medium settings capped to 30. Maybe 4 hours?

Tasty · « **Reply #162 on:** February 08, 2022, 10:07:20 AM »

Legitimately thinking of picking one of these up at the end of the year and just using it like I use my Switch, aka 95% docked.

Just give me that stable target hardware and Valve hardware-software integration

Never been a min-maxer

Edit- I'm also never going back to Windows. Ever.

bork · « **Reply #163 on:** February 08, 2022, 10:40:56 AM »

Quote from: Tasty on February 08, 2022, 10:07:20 AM

Legitimately thinking of picking one of these up at the end of the year and just using it like I use my Switch, aka 95% docked.

Just give me that stable target hardware and Valve hardware-software integration

Never been a min-maxer

Edit- I'm also never going back to Windows. Ever.

Some games might not look all that great on a bigger screen, if that matters. One thing I have yet to try with my GPD handheld PCs is the mClassic- actually could really help to make things look a lot better blown-up.

Tasty · « **Reply #164 on:** February 08, 2022, 10:51:33 AM »

My TV's still 1080p, I think I'll be OK.

headwalk · « **Reply #165 on:** February 08, 2022, 10:54:23 AM »

if there was a version that was just a home streaming deck and offered WiiU like latency from your home rig, i'd be on it in a second.

bork · « **Reply #166 on:** February 08, 2022, 11:00:29 AM »

Quote from: Tasty on February 08, 2022, 10:51:33 AM

My TV's still 1080p, I think I'll be OK.

These handhelds are targeting 720P or lower. When you blow them up, the flaws of the low graphics settings really start to show.

Tasty · « **Reply #167 on:** February 08, 2022, 11:14:12 AM »

Quote from: headwalk on February 08, 2022, 10:54:23 AM

if there was a version that was just a home streaming deck and offered WiiU like latency from your home rig, i'd be on it in a second.

They made that years ago I thought.

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Valve discontinued the Steam Link hardware device in November 2018, in favor of supporting its software-based Steam Link application for mobile devices and smart televisions, as well as providing Steam Link as a software package for the Raspberry Pi microcomputer.

RPi's are pretty cheap. I can vouch for the Android TV app, that's how I beat Omori.

headwalk · « **Reply #168 on:** February 08, 2022, 03:46:27 PM »

Quote from: Tasty on February 08, 2022, 11:14:12 AM

Quote from: headwalk on February 08, 2022, 10:54:23 AM
if there was a version that was just a home streaming deck and offered WiiU like latency from your home rig, i'd be on it in a second.

They made that years ago I thought.

(Image removed from quote.)

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Valve discontinued the Steam Link hardware device in November 2018, in favor of supporting its software-based Steam Link application for mobile devices and smart televisions, as well as providing Steam Link as a software package for the Raspberry Pi microcomputer.

RPi's are pretty cheap. I can vouch for the Android TV app, that's how I beat Omori.

streaming over wifi is always a bit shit and none of the hardware solutions are anything like as appealing as the steam deck. the wiiu had a latency of 33ms or something like that, even on a good connection the steam deck in streaming mode is around 130ms.

chronovore · « **Reply #169 on:** February 08, 2022, 08:25:43 PM »

Quote from: bork on February 07, 2022, 01:27:31 PM

Looking really good!

Quote from: Nintex on February 07, 2022, 03:19:00 PM

+
GPU blows competitors out of the water
Speakers are great
Battery life is great
Half the fucking price of competitors (it basically has no competition)
More games at launch than any other console in history
SD card loading actually fast

-
Haptics aren't great
A bit wide

+/-
Some software issues and bugs

Golly, I know I'm a curmudgeon, but I sure don't need to see YouTubers faces next to products they're fondling, having had nothing to do with their creation or success. I understand the statistics probably support human engagement, and these guys have to get their brand locked in to compete with the other mugs displayed across YT. I just don't like it.

bork · « **Reply #170 on:** February 08, 2022, 08:40:41 PM »

benjipwns · « **Reply #171 on:** February 08, 2022, 08:47:34 PM »

Quote from: chronovore on February 08, 2022, 08:25:43 PM

Golly, I know I'm a curmudgeon, but I sure don't need to see YouTubers faces next to products they're fondling, having had nothing to do with their creation or success. I understand the statistics probably support human engagement, and these guys have to get their brand locked in to compete with the other mugs displayed across YT. I just don't like it.

Then I posit that the algorithm is broken or flawed as nothing makes me want to less engage with these humans than those thumbnails.

headwalk · « **Reply #172 on:** February 09, 2022, 05:46:23 AM »

we're at the point where algorithms are learning from algorithms. a stupid robot AI recognises a big silly twat making a dumb face as being fun and expressive, so it pushes that video, that video gets popular as a result so the next evolution of stupid robot AI reinforces that bias and we get to a point of data incest where people making videos in line with the whims of an algo that has been fucking its cousins for 10 generations.

Pissy F Benny · « **Reply #173 on:** February 09, 2022, 05:59:01 AM »

at least they're not doing soy face

GreatSageEqualOfHeaven · « **Reply #174 on:** February 10, 2022, 09:37:43 AM »

D3RANG3D · « **Reply #175 on:** February 11, 2022, 10:30:21 PM »

https://twitter.com/OnDeck/status/1492259379004854273

spoiler (click to show/hide)

https://twitter.com/Pendleton115/status/1492262077817257990

[close]

https://twitter.com/carygolomb/status/1492208467976802306https://twitter.com/carygolomb/status/1492208467976802306

The absolute mad lad.

Coax · « **Reply #176 on:** February 12, 2022, 08:56:53 AM »

It's surprising he managed to get two, considering much larger channels only received one. Probably the best person for it though.

bork · « **Reply #177 on:** February 14, 2022, 11:30:17 AM »

https://www.reddit.com/r/SteamDeck/comments/som87v/gpd_steam_deck_is_worse_than_win_3_it_is_a_closed/

GPD are not taking the impending Steam Deck launch well.

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Don't kid yourself! The only reason Gabe created this product is to make a closed system, not to let you install Windows to play pirated games!

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In the end, whether it's called the Steam Deck or Steam Deck XX, it's a closed system (capitalist will reveal its hideous face when there are enough users) and the hardware will prevent you from installing any third-party systems. You can only buy games from the Steam platform.

Svejk · « **Reply #178 on:** February 14, 2022, 12:17:52 PM »

Quote from: bork on February 14, 2022, 11:30:17 AM

https://www.reddit.com/r/SteamDeck/comments/som87v/gpd_steam_deck_is_worse_than_win_3_it_is_a_closed/

GPD are not taking the impending Steam Deck launch well.

Quote
Don't kid yourself! The only reason Gabe created this product is to make a closed system, not to let you install Windows to play pirated games!

Quote
In the end, whether it's called the Steam Deck or Steam Deck XX, it's a closed system (capitalist will reveal its hideous face when there are enough users) and the hardware will prevent you from installing any third-party systems. You can only buy games from the Steam platform.

Until someone jailbreaks it?

But yeah, I can see them going this direction, if they want to compete with MS and Sony on the hardware front. As long as they still have good sales and allow full fledged modding from Nexus/Vortex, I can see it working for them.

TEH PC WORZ!?!

GreatSageEqualOfHeaven · « **Reply #179 on:** February 14, 2022, 01:55:20 PM »

Quote from: Svejk on February 14, 2022, 12:17:52 PM

Until someone jailbreaks it?
But yeah, I can see them going this direction, if they want to compete with MS and Sony on the hardware front. As long as they still have good sales and allow full fledged modding from Nexus/Vortex, I can see it working for them.

its so antithetical to like... literally everything valve stands for, the only way I see that happening is if gabe dies and apple/ms/google buy the whole caboodle.

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Author Topic: Steam Deck | RNDA2, 7" display, Dock, starting at $399 (yes OLED) (Read 37848 times)